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| gryffus | Hello folks, i would like to ask what is the most powerfull / best equipped device that runs Sailfish? | 11:05 |
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| r0kk3rz | gryffus: that you can actually buy? | 11:06 |
| gryffus | r0kk3rz: that would be best... i have tried it on my rPi and i would like to have an actual phone with it... | 11:07 |
| gryffus | but i can wait if there is some future device planned | 11:08 |
| gryffus | also, i don't have any problems in installing on "unofficially" supported phone | 11:08 |
| gryffus | s/in/with | 11:08 |
| r0kk3rz | one plus x is good | 11:09 |
| pp_ | that'd be the xperia x, official port should be out soon | 11:09 |
| gryffus | also, does Jolla still have it's Open Build Service instance open to public/community ? | 11:09 |
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| gryffus | r0kk3rz, pp_: thanks guys :) | 11:09 |
| r0kk3rz | gryffus: Mer does | 11:09 |
| gryffus | r0kk3rz: ok so i can build against Mer, but not against Jolla (ui, ...) ? | 11:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | no you can build everything you need | 11:10 |
| r0kk3rz | in terms of apps and the like | 11:10 |
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| gryffus | r0kk3rz ok so what parts of system is closed / not available in the OBS ? Only graphics, icons etc? | 11:12 |
| gryffus | is source code for ui parts based on Qt available? | 11:12 |
| phlixi_o | xperia x is announced for end of q2. my personal expectation is this means "maybe q3 if you are lucky, i actually expect 'within 2017' if nothing fails horribly" | 11:26 |
| LarstiQ | pessimism never hurt anyone | 11:27 |
| phlixi_o | imho the main advantage of official stuff is the android compatibility part. if you came from rpi and apks areno big deal, then iirc fairphone2 has the most mture port | 11:28 |
| phlixi_o | thats more of "most mature", not sure about "best equipped" | 11:29 |
| phlixi_o | ...however, the equipment is worth nothing if not supported :D | 11:29 |
| mal | there are a few quite good ports currently | 11:31 |
| phlixi_o | LarstiQ I call it realism, be honest, be objective, think about jolla history. sounds q2 realistic to you? | 11:31 |
| LarstiQ | phlixi_o: yes | 11:31 |
| phlixi_o | thats good news for me, as i expect you have more insight than me :-) | 11:31 |
| LarstiQ | I certainly hope so ;) | 11:31 |
| LarstiQ | phlixi_o: I think we're making reasonable progress, technically. | 11:32 |
| LarstiQ | phlixi_o: there are of course also business processes involved, so I'm not about to hold my breath, but still | 11:32 |
| phlixi_o | should i order an xx on ebay now? | 11:32 |
| LarstiQ | not having to deal with an ODM makes it so much nicer | 11:32 |
| LarstiQ | phlixi_o: eh, that I can't say either way and just point at what has been said in community meetings | 11:33 |
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| phlixi_o | the last information about exactly that is the most important point wich leeds to my (pesimistic) estimation | 11:34 |
| phlixi_o | the meeting answer was in the sense of jolla anounces shortly, whether one should rund and buy xperias or not. but its the same since then. at the same time, end of q2 is actually pretty close | 11:35 |
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| LarstiQ | we're in the first third of Q2 | 11:35 |
| phlixi_o | at the end of the first third... in busines days, starting tomorrow, the next third is the last one | 11:36 |
| pp_ | If it doesn't happen by mid-june it won't happen until september (welcome to finland) | 11:38 |
| gryffus | phlixi_o: it is already released or not? According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia_X | 11:39 |
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| phlixi_o | sfos for xperia x is not released so far. thats what LarstiQ and where chattiing about. speculating when it will be released (while LarstiQ is an insider) | 11:41 |
| phlixi_o | gryffus | 11:41 |
| gryffus | phlixi_o: oh i see... thanks | 11:41 |
| phlixi_o | everyone (TM) is waiting for it :-) | 11:42 |
| gryffus | 3 GB of RAM? oh :( i've had 4g on my Samsung :( | 11:42 |
| r0kk3rz | 3gb for sfos is heaps | 11:43 |
| phlixi_o | gryffus it is unclear (at least for public) at the moment if you should buy one now, and then download the image (or whatever) later; Or if it will be exclusivly available via special device purchase preflashed | 11:43 |
| gryffus | phlixi_o: i don't care about preflashing... I always reflash all my devices i buy anyway | 11:45 |
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| gryffus | well, everything (or at least most of it) in Sailfish ins open, so i don't see how could that be available only in preflashed version | 11:46 |
| phlixi_o | gryffus well, you will need somthing to flash on the device :-) | 11:46 |
| gryffus | oh you mean that the device could be locked from flashing? | 11:47 |
| gryffus | well i think it will get cracked sooner or later if it wil be locked anyway :) | 11:47 |
| gryffus | think/hope | 11:47 |
| phlixi_o | i actually dont know, but afaiu the reason for no avail images for jp1301 is qualcom blob stuff | 11:47 |
| r0kk3rz | no, it wont be locked like that | 11:47 |
| gryffus | r0kk3rz: thanks for info | 11:48 |
| r0kk3rz | but indeed, you might not be able to get an image | 11:48 |
| gryffus | r0kk3rz: but i should be able to built it myself no? | 11:48 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe | 11:48 |
| phlixi_o | unclear | 11:48 |
| phlixi_o | short version: if you can wait a bit, then wait. its announced for end of q2. thus i expect at least more information within the next 1, max2 months | 11:49 |
| gryffus | well, i your country we say: who is afraid, cannot go to the forest :) | 11:49 |
| gryffus | *in my country | 11:49 |
| gryffus | if it will be some locked sh*t i can sell it later :) | 11:50 |
| phlixi_o | (and some others actually expect something to buy within 1-2months :-) | 11:50 |
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| r0kk3rz | gryffus: it wont be locked, but the version you build yourself might not be the same as the prepackaged version | 11:52 |
| gryffus | r0kk3rz: that is what i want :) i never trust a prepackaged/preinstalled software... especially on mobile devices | 11:53 |
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| r0kk3rz | gryffus: that fine, but it might lack some features you care about | 11:53 |
| mal | also considering that the way official images are made is completely different from the unofficial builds it might require a lot of work to get it working | 11:54 |
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| gryffus | well this is what i use now: http://c.aligator.cz/.thumbs/680x480/images/album/Products_Model_Product/104/V4001.png :) just because it is unhackable :)) | 12:27 |
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| gryffus | so i really don't care about features too much... freedom is my main criterion... | 12:28 |
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| gryffus | and then CPU power... I would like to dual boot Sailfish and Kali NetHunter | 12:29 |
| phlixi_o | then you probably just want to ask "is the nexus 5 or the oneplus one port for sfos better"? | 12:55 |
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| phlixi_o | gryffus | 12:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | gryffus: kali only supports a handful of devices anyway | 13:02 |
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| sakustar | sony has had some weird stuff with their cameras if you root the device | 16:09 |
| RaYmAn | while they've certainly had some missteps, 'weird stuff' these days mean == disable proprietary software algorithms for improving image quality.. | 16:11 |
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