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citylight2In regard to bluetooth low emition support, I see that the last sailfish includes bluez5 which support this08:39
citylight2does this mean I can use BLE in aliandarvik?08:40
coderuscitylight2: you can't use bluetooth in aliendalvik at all08:44
citylight2I read this: https://together.jolla.com/question/4938/feature-request-android-bluetooth-support/?sort=votes&page=108:45
coderuscitylight2: you understood it wrong then08:48
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rkzcitylight2: bluez5 isnt activated yet anyway09:07
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citylight2but lets assume it will work, what do we need else to make this work for android?09:13
citylight2I mean for me this is an import tent feature now09:15
citylight2so many things relay on BLE these days09:15
rkzterrible black magic09:20
rkzor some kind of proxy service i guess09:21
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paany plan for when Qt5.9 will land on sailfish?10:07
rkzpa: steady on, we only just got 5.610:07
coderuscitylight2: there is no any bluetooth support for aliendalvik. at all. you just can't do anything to make it work.10:11
parkz: indeed10:22
paso i was hoping that maybe 5.9 is gonna be soon..10:22
paso many new features10:22
rkzpa: i doubt it :) its been 3 years since the last qt upgrade10:23
rkzso maybe in another 3 years10:23
pahaha10:25
panice10:25
pajust in time to disappear ;-)10:25
pafunny that it's easier to run latest qt on android and ios than on a Qt based platform10:26
rkznot really. you'd think the Qt based platform would use more of Qt and wants it to be stable and work10:28
rkzthe risk of breaking OS things is greater, rather than just breaking a few apps10:29
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coderuspa: you can always compile qt for sailfishos yourself nad bundle it into your package, no broblems here10:32
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pacoderus: i asked this some time ago, i was told that newer qt doesn't work on sailfish because of some wayland incompatibilities10:36
rkzpa: perhaps that has changed these days. RedHat defaults to wayland these days after all10:48
YanielAnd soon canonical will too :310:58
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coderuspa: before 5.6 i guess?11:18
pacoderus: i think there are substantial difference between 5.6 and 5.8 wrt wayland11:19
padifferences11:19
coderusWell, 5.8 was built and now using in AsteroidOS smartwatches11:20
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* tbr has 5.8 building on obs, but the wayland part bombs with some weird compiler errors11:38
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phlixi_oi updated my jolla devices to the current release, something sttrange happened12:54
phlixi_ogpodder played a podcast and after a bit over 30 minutes of not touching the phone, it suddently stopped playing12:56
phlixi_oi unlocked an realised, that browser and gpodder got (i asume) killed12:56
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phlixi_othis morning it happened again12:56
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phlixi_oafter i think maybe around 36 minutes, but i am not 100% sure, might be also 30minutes12:57
phlixi_othis time only gpodder was killed12:57
phlixi_obrowser still was alive12:57
phlixi_oi can not remember that happening the last years, while using pgodder like that nearly every day12:58
phlixi_ocan i somehow look for journal stuff or such?13:02
Nicd-sounds like oom killer13:04
phlixi_oyea13:04
phlixi_oexactly13:04
phlixi_obut why in hell should that trigger after the phone is "idle" (ok, not actually idle but unused for over 30 minutes)13:05
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Nicd-I had it trigger many times when doing nothing13:16
Nicd-or came back to a phone with nothing running13:16
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phlixi_othen you maybe run more apps usualy, i dont know, might be different usage scenario13:25
phlixi_oi never had this, what now hapend kind of twice in a row13:26
Nicd-I never did run many apps13:26
phlixi_oright after updating13:26
Nicd-calendar, phone, SMS were what I had open at the end13:26
phlixi_oseems like a low footprint to me13:26
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phlixi_oi scrolled in journalctl to the position where this happened, but i have no idea what to look for ;(13:27
phlixi_oApr 12 18:54:21 Sailfish kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'sailfish-browse' (1347), adj 72,13:29
phlixi_o                                    to free 31904kB on behalf of 'kswapd0' (50) because13:29
phlixi_o                                    cache 23932kB is below limit 24576kB for oom_score_adj 5813:29
phlixi_o                                    Free memory is 15476kB above reserved13:29
phlixi_oand then 4 and a half minutes later13:30
phlixi_oApr 12 18:58:54 Sailfish kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'sailfish-qml' (2716), adj 71,13:30
phlixi_o                                    to free 508276kB on behalf of 'kswapd0' (50) because13:30
phlixi_o                                    cache 23656kB is below limit 24576kB for oom_score_adj 5813:30
phlixi_o                                    Free memory is 17696kB above reserved13:30
phlixi_othere is not a single entry for over a minute before the browser kill, thus i asume its unrelated to the kiling of the browser (and then 5minutes later killing of gpodder)13:34
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