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| tiwake | any idea when Xperia X is coming with sailfishOS? | 04:39 |
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| taaem | tiwake: I heard end of Q2 | 06:01 |
| tiwake | taaem: alright, guess I'll wait a bit longer | 06:02 |
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| tiwake | taaem: my intex aquafish screen died, trying to decide what I want to do, using my older nexus 5 again | 06:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | tiwake: unfortunately we dont know if you'll be able to install on a xperia x that comes with android or not | 08:38 |
| r0kk3rz | but they havent ruled that out | 08:38 |
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| tbr | tiwake, r0kk3rz: I guess it will be hard to prevent an unlocked Xperia X from working with SailfishOS. Notwithstanding official Jolla distribution process decisions for that device. | 08:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | this is true | 08:53 |
| r0kk3rz | at any rate, i would expect the adaptation to be open and so you can at least roll your own | 08:54 |
| r0kk3rz | and have it work adequately | 08:54 |
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| till | to bad the xperia x is not waterproof anymore... | 09:17 |
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| coderus | yeah underwater sailfish os would be insane... | 09:56 |
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| Tofe | coderus: :) | 10:13 |
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| tiwake | lol | 12:12 |
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| till | 2.1.0.10 is available | 12:37 |
| Tofe | ah yes, is it just the end of the EA period for 2.1.0.9 ? | 12:39 |
| till | according to tjc: "2017-03-23: 2.1.0.10 Early access release for Jolla 1, C and Tablet. Fixes for instance for camera ticking and CalDAV sync issues." | 12:39 |
| till | normally the EA period ends with the release of the same version to all users | 12:42 |
| Tofe | till: and sometimes it ends with the release of the littles fixes done on the EA release | 12:44 |
| Tofe | Anyway, update done. Still no reset since dec 2013 on my side, well done guys :p | 12:47 |
| r0kk3rz | i hope the tick is gone for good | 12:50 |
| pp | oooh, calendar fixes :D | 12:51 |
| pp | I was just trying to figure out why mine wasn't syncing properly :D | 12:51 |
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| till | update went fine here as well | 13:13 |
| pp | calendar still broken :P | 13:14 |
| pp | oh wait, now it synced | 13:14 |
| till | :D | 13:14 |
| pp | (running random stuff on the command line trying to get debug output) | 13:14 |
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| abranson | Tofe: that's the talk of champions ;) | 13:28 |
| r0kk3rz | hmm, no ticking yet | 13:31 |
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| oozbooz | just curious, with all these NSA spying hysteria in US, when rooting a phone with a custom rom, does it disable all "unannounced" features or are they implemented in HW? | 16:18 |
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| r0kk3rz | oozbooz: baseband remains unaltered | 16:21 |
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| r0kk3rz | oozbooz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseband_processor | 16:21 |
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| FireFly | Of course, if the features are supposed to be hidden/covert, who knows if they're implemented in software or hardware :P | 16:36 |
| FireFly | I mean, not knowing is kind of the point | 16:36 |
| FireFly | relatedly, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side-channel_attack | 16:36 |
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| oozbooz | looks like Baseband cpu is a known place for vulnerabilities to hide... | 16:48 |
| oozbooz | anyone attempted to run Open Source code on the baseband/ | 16:48 |
| oozbooz | ? | 16:48 |
| Nicd- | is that possible? | 16:49 |
| Nicd- | I'm not aware of any open modems | 16:49 |
| SQUelcher | Wasn't there a Motorola Dumbphone? | 16:50 |
| r0kk3rz | possible? sure, hard? definitely | 16:50 |
| SQUelcher | https://osmocom.org/projects/baseband/wiki/Phones | 16:51 |
| r0kk3rz | oozbooz: anyway, if you're worried about government sponsored agencies, dont own a mobile phone of any type | 16:51 |
| oozbooz | r0kk3rz, I realized that... I just wanted a bit educational moment to understand how much rom-ing phone blocking the frivolous access | 16:52 |
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| r0kk3rz | oozbooz: sure, rom-ing might help, obviously it depends on the particulars of who / what / where | 16:53 |
| r0kk3rz | which dispite all the leaks, nobody really knows for sure what those wiley bastards are up to | 16:54 |
| oozbooz | I am sure G-people and other agencies planted slew of bugs in all layers: OS, apps, Baseband... depending on their financial sources | 16:54 |
| oozbooz | couple years ago articles surfaced about CIA+ hacking PC using BIOS chip | 16:55 |
| oozbooz | over raido within 1 mile | 16:55 |
| r0kk3rz | but also remember, the ROMs arent always distributed in the most secure of fashions, and that seems like something easily targetting by a government agency | 16:56 |
| r0kk3rz | so damned if you do, damned if you dont | 16:56 |
| oozbooz | funny, I was thinking yesterday ... that if I work for G-agencies in IT, I would "sponsor" some of the most popular FOSS roms | 16:56 |
| r0kk3rz | oozbooz: http://ftp.belnet.be/FOSDEM/2014/Janson/Sunday/NSA_operation_ORCHESTRA_Annual_Status_Report.webm | 16:57 |
| r0kk3rz | a thought experiment about how some agency could subvert FOSS communities | 16:57 |
| Helle | Baseband CPUs run full blown operating systems, if I where to hide a national security grade spyware anywhere | 17:22 |
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| Helle | doesn't help that there is less diversity of those | 17:22 |
| Helle | But we have ones that run a full copy of Linux on the baseband CPU (with a bunch of GPL violations along the way) | 17:22 |
| FireFly | Heh | 17:33 |
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| attah | Cracked my camera lens today, update for clicking autofocus arrives... The universe must hate me :) | 20:14 |
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| attah | tiwake: in theory i could hook you up with a Aqua Fish display | 20:21 |
| attah | or an entire phone... trying to understand if i can cannibalize the camera lens or not to my C | 20:21 |
| r0kk3rz | attah: just the front glass? | 20:30 |
| attah | well.. i have the entire thing and no real need for it.. but i'll hang on to the battery and likely the camera lens | 20:31 |
| attah | now that we are expecting Sonys to arrive soon-ish i'll gamble not having the display for myself | 20:31 |
| attah | and i already tried a few magics with the modem as an added bonus | 20:32 |
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