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| trigpoin1 | Hi, I have had a jolla for nearly 2 years, since then I have been using OSMand which until fairly recently has worked well. | 09:40 |
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| trigpoin1 | Recently it has become crashy, I am guessing updates have made it more memory hungry | 09:41 |
| phlixi_o | try OSM Scout? | 09:42 |
| trigpoin1 | Not heard of that, will take a look, thank you | 09:43 |
| sobukus | mapfactor is what works for me | 09:43 |
| sobukus | It manages off-line routing over 1500 km without a hitch, while osmand just dies after a very long time. | 09:43 |
| trigpoin1 | I have resorted to maps.me, but that is very limited | 09:44 |
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| phlixi_o | oh, rounting, i have no idea if OSM Scout does that, i actually never need such thing... but i sometimes take a look at the map | 09:48 |
| phlixi_o | thus i did not though of routing when recommending to try PSM Scout | 09:48 |
| phlixi_o | OSM* | 09:48 |
| phlixi_o | however, my collegue tells me all the time how awesome the nokia here stuff is... | 09:49 |
| phlixi_o | ...yes, i know its not nokia anymore and not called here anymore | 09:49 |
| phlixi_o | herewego or whatever^^ | 09:50 |
| trigpoin1 | map factor seems to want me to use tomtom maps | 09:50 |
| pp__ | hmpf, looks like herewego is no longer compatible with jp1 (older version works fine tho) | 09:54 |
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| citylight2 | hi, I read yesterday, that I can run jolla on Sony cellular phones. which? is there a irc log for this channel? | 10:13 |
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| kimmoli | citylight2: not yet. community ports exists, but for an official image, you'll need to wait | 10:15 |
| Tegu | and yea, there is a log link just in the end of the huge topic: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23jollamobile/ | 10:17 |
| citylight2 | thanks, is fairphone running jolla in better shape? | 10:17 |
| kimmoli | thats a community port, it is in pretty good shape | 10:18 |
| kimmoli | i can only speak for oneplusx | 10:18 |
| citylight2 | another issue, is there an app for jolla that works as owntracks, and reports the location of a device to a MQTT broker over https? | 10:18 |
| kimmoli | (but remember, there is no android app support) | 10:18 |
| kimmoli | don't know is just such app ready, but bits for such are | 10:18 |
| Tegu | "The target is to offer the first release to Jolla’s customers and community members by the end of Q2/2017." from the first press release link at https://together.jolla.com/question/156705/jolla-mwc-2017/ | 10:19 |
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| sakustar | yellow girls? | 10:32 |
| sakustar | google results were... mixed | 10:32 |
| pp__ | If you install google play, it will tell google where you are just fine :P | 10:33 |
| sakustar | your mobile operator will track you too regardless | 10:37 |
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| r0kk3rz | sakustar: at least google gives you access to the information | 10:44 |
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| citylight2 | I ment a server which I can query and see if my cellular is near home and start the AC | 11:40 |
| r0kk3rz | i think situations is the closest, not sure it does internet of thingsy type stuff though | 11:41 |
| r0kk3rz | someone could write an IFTTT app i suppose | 11:42 |
| caitlinb | there’s a home automation thingy that can do that which runs happy enough in docker | 12:00 |
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| caitlinb | https://home-assistant.io | 12:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | caitlinb: that looks a bit more useful | 12:05 |
| caitlinb | it’s pretty simple if you have half a clue how to write an app | 12:06 |
| caitlinb | I got a POC on my jolla with the sdk certainly | 12:06 |
| caitlinb | defined some zones for work and home, so the callouts to the AC are trivial from there once zone entry/exit are sorted | 12:06 |
| caitlinb | you do have to run all the bits yourself, thoughbut | 12:07 |
| citylight2 | how does home-assistant knows I am near my home? | 12:07 |
| caitlinb | you run a client on the phone that pings a gps and squirts the coords to the HA instance | 12:07 |
| caitlinb | taht compares your geo to the zone info it has and makes decisions accordingly | 12:07 |
| citylight2 | I thought about running a small server that will query a service and tell when my phone reported its near home | 12:07 |
| caitlinb | this is the other way round i think, the client submits data to a service which you run on a small server | 12:08 |
| citylight2 | I would not want the phone to take any action, only report where it is | 12:08 |
| caitlinb | but since it’s dockerable you can run it any cloud provider of your choice that supports that kind of thing | 12:08 |
| caitlinb | that’s all my phone app does, query gps once in a while and push that data onto a message bus | 12:09 |
| r0kk3rz | citylight2: you mentioned owntracks before https://home-assistant.io/cookbook/owntracks_two_mqtt_broker/ | 12:09 |
| caitlinb | that’s what this uses | 12:09 |
| caitlinb | exactly that | 12:09 |
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| citylight2 | r0kk3rz: right and how to run owntracks on jolla? | 12:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | citylight2: android? or it sounds like caitlinb did up an app that does the same thing | 12:37 |
| caitlinb | it’s basically a json payload iirc, my app isn’t in a store, it’s just a PoC | 13:26 |
| caitlinb | i’m sure there’s an android client somewhere | 13:26 |
| caitlinb | i think i was just writing my own for the point of writing it | 13:26 |
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| sakustar | my jolla doesnt allow gps for android | 14:17 |
| sakustar | also was usb tethering a patch or an official feature | 14:18 |
| sakustar | havent needed it in so long i forgot | 14:18 |
| r0kk3rz | sakustar: it was an official feature that i dont think ever got properly released | 14:19 |
| fennekki | it used to be a patch, became official later, I think? | 14:19 |
| fennekki | or wait, no | 14:19 |
| fennekki | it's developer mode stuff maybe | 14:19 |
| r0kk3rz | just something you add via pkcon | 14:19 |
| sakustar | :( | 14:20 |
| sakustar | ill take a look later if i find it | 14:21 |
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| till | usb tethering is just setting up correct iptable rules | 14:40 |
| till | if you have developer mode (that is network via usb) running | 14:40 |
| till | and gps for android is working fine on my jolla, did you check if it work in native sailfish apps? | 14:41 |
| r0kk3rz | till: no need to much around with iptables https://together.jolla.com/question/3798/usb-tethering/?answer=61513#post-id-61513 | 14:45 |
| fennekki | I think the last time I USB tethered I just manually ran dhcpcd on the usb interface and it worked | 14:46 |
| till | interesting, didn't knew that trick. however, I have two scripts for setting up tethering either wifi or mobile data, works just fine :) | 14:48 |
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| r0kk3rz | till: im sure the UI button does something similar anyway | 14:49 |
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| PaulePanter | Hi. There hasn’t been any update for the Jolla phone is quite some time. | 14:50 |
| PaulePanter | Do you know more, what the current plan is? | 14:50 |
| fennekki | hasn't there though. wasn't there one like this year even or do i remember wrong? | 14:50 |
| till | yes, however I can trigger the script via ssh, no need to touch the phone ;) | 14:50 |
| till | huh? there has been Ijoki some weeks ago | 14:50 |
| fennekki | yeah that's what I thought | 14:50 |
| till | rather: there is Ijoki | 14:50 |
| PaulePanter | I have 2.0.56 (Haapajoki) | 14:51 |
| PaulePanter | *2.0.5.6 | 14:51 |
| r0kk3rz | PaulePanter: a new update is in EA since a few weeks now | 14:51 |
| PaulePanter | r0kk3rz: Nice. | 14:51 |
| till | https://together.jolla.com/question/153631/release-notes-210iijoki/ | 14:52 |
| fennekki | Iijoki, or as you might translate it, "The River I" | 14:52 |
| PaulePanter | That sounds great. I am looking forward to it. | 14:53 |
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| caitlinb | huh, i’m still 2.0.5.6 and ‘up to date’ | 14:58 |
| Tegu | have you joined the Early Access program? | 15:00 |
| PaulePanter | caitlinb: What Tegu wrote. | 15:01 |
| caitlinb | oic | 15:01 |
| caitlinb | how does one join? | 15:01 |
| Tegu | beware that the early access releases might be a bit unstable | 15:01 |
| till | afaik there is a checkbox in your jolla.com account | 15:01 |
| r0kk3rz | caitlinb: its a dark ritual, must be performed in the middle of finnish winter | 15:02 |
| caitlinb | heh | 15:02 |
| caitlinb | isn’t it always the middle of winter in finland? | 15:02 |
| r0kk3rz | caitlinb: conveniently yes | 15:02 |
| caitlinb | \o/ | 15:02 |
| r0kk3rz | caitlinb: its a checkbox in your jolla account on jolla.com | 15:02 |
| caitlinb | i just want to know how soon i can get one of those X brand sony thingies for a go on sailfish on that | 15:02 |
| till | https://account.jolla.com/ -> "Early access to Sailfish OS releases" | 15:02 |
| Tegu | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204564167-Opt-in-to-Early-Releases-on-account-jolla-com | 15:03 |
| till | wasn't the current estimate end of Q2/2017? | 15:05 |
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| caitlinb | for the X devices, yeh | 15:18 |
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| phlixi_o | wow https://together.jolla.com/question/157639 is now totally unreadable | 16:25 |
| phlixi_o | everyting converted into a soup of comments -.- | 16:25 |
| tbr | lol | 16:29 |
| ^7heo | primordial soup thereof. | 16:30 |
| ^7heo | thanks for the link btw. | 16:30 |
| * tbr is mildly bemused by all the obvious misunderstandings driven by wishful delusions | 16:32 | |
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| r0kk3rz | yes how dare they have hope, the fools | 16:33 |
| tbr | everyone should be as jaded as me, dangit! | 16:33 |
| tbr | If you run out of factuals, you need to appeal to feelings and hopes. OK, enough of being snarrrrky. | 16:35 |
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| r0kk3rz | factuals are that its going to be a productised sfos including proprietary bits | 16:38 |
| ^7heo | Personally, even if the article at http://www.pcmag.com/news/352053/hands-on-jollas-sailfish-os-on-a-sony-xperia-x says that "In the past it's been no trouble for those used to flashing ROMs to get Sailfish (or AOSP) up and running", I'm kinda tired to have to hack my way through the bootloaders with recoveries and having to flash the phones with random .exe files obtained from shady websites and blogs. | 16:38 |
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| r0kk3rz | ^7heo: sony allows you to do this with sony tools downloaded from sony website | 16:38 |
| r0kk3rz | not so dodgy | 16:38 |
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| ^7heo | and I see the official bootloader unlockers and flashing programs officially distributed (such as the one from sony or some from Asus) as a VERY WELCOME thing. | 16:38 |
| ^7heo | r0kk3rz: that's my point. :) | 16:38 |
| ^7heo | r0kk3rz: it's not so often that you see that. | 16:38 |
| JvD_ | also linux versions? | 16:38 |
| ^7heo | not sure, didn't check what format the binaries were in. | 16:38 |
| tbr | well, ODP is in spirit the continuation of the Nexus device line | 16:38 |
| ^7heo | in any case "linux" will mean "GNU/Linux" unless the source is provided. | 16:38 |
| ^7heo | which is also a show-stopper for some (me included) | 16:38 |
| tbr | and that so far was the basis for jolla's reference adaptations, *gasp* such surprise | 16:39 |
| ^7heo | r0kk3rz: and even if the article says that "people who know how" can use the tools already; it's not really true that we can trust them that much. | 16:40 |
| tbr | hell, before the SbJ worked, Sailfish was up and running on Mako | 16:40 |
| ^7heo | tbr: tma. | 16:40 |
| ^7heo | tbr: ENOFLLW | 16:40 |
| tbr | ^7heo: come again? | 16:40 |
| ^7heo | right!? | 16:40 |
| ^7heo | "too many abbreviations" | 16:40 |
| ^7heo | Can't follow. | 16:40 |
| tbr | SbJ == Jolla Phone, the first one | 16:40 |
| ^7heo | as opposed to the Jolla C? | 16:40 |
| tbr | ack | 16:40 |
| ^7heo | (or the intex whatever) | 16:40 |
| ^7heo | (aquafish AFAIR) | 16:40 |
| ^7heo | and ODP? | 16:40 |
| tbr | it was Nokia N9/N950, ..., Mako, SbJ, then SfE and then Aquafish | 16:41 |
| ^7heo | Ok. | 16:41 |
| tbr | SfE → Sailfish for Everyone, the community adaptations | 16:41 |
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| ^7heo | I'm new #here, so I might have a hard time with the abbreviations for some time. | 16:41 |
| tbr | no problem, we're here to expand and explain those if necessary, just ask | 16:42 |
| ^7heo | Thanks ;) | 16:42 |
| ^7heo | The principal problem with mobile and open software are the driver blobs | 16:44 |
| r0kk3rz | http://www.financialexpress.com/industry/technology/high-court-bans-intex-aqua-mobiles-company-loses-trademark-case/488054/ | 16:49 |
| r0kk3rz | ooops | 16:49 |
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| ^7heo | damn | 16:49 |
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| tadzik | oops | 19:00 |
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| attah | Has anyone else here had problems with BankId (swe) on 2.1? | 21:05 |
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