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| temmi_hoo | Armadill0: chatham house rules prevent participants to speak about other participants or content | 08:50 |
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| temmi_hoo | as part of disobey.fi organism i invite you to take part next year | 08:50 |
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| pp_ | chatham says content is fine to talk about but not who said what ;) | 08:53 |
| temmi_hoo | was really cyberpunk, dark room, tables full of hackers feverishly cracking in hostile network, said network traffic visualised on a large projection ball surface in real time, good talks of interesting security issues such as that the IoOPT is securitywise comparable to telnet/rlogin period of internet security | 08:53 |
| temmi_hoo | depends on the content, parts of it have disclosure agreements - i'm not aware of the jolla-related topics at all but i was closely following the dissection of car spying device from minister berner and any details cannot really be spoken of as per agreement with vendor | 08:54 |
| temmi_hoo | they provided us with devices and we cracked them and provided a report | 08:55 |
| temmi_hoo | https://twitter.com/leaviljanen/status/819981637823954945 <-- that with demoscene video stuff with loads of laserbeam particles flying around | 08:56 |
| locusf | also no announcer stuff was good | 08:57 |
| locusf | just flashing lights and big bass with readout on screen about the next speaker and topic | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i personally hate announcers | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | waste of time and personell | 08:58 |
| locusf | yeah | 08:58 |
| r0kk3rz | interesting, so you're not supposed to talk about this disobey thing | 08:59 |
| r0kk3rz | so its like fight club for hackers | 08:59 |
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| temmi_hoo | r0kk3rz: well kind of :) some people don't want their presence to be advertised | 09:54 |
| temmi_hoo | most of the content is okay to publish but then again there's the discussion on what's content | 09:55 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i understand, particularly because computer security research can have dubious legality | 09:56 |
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| Helle | temmi_hoo: I wish more hackers would run meetings under chatham house rules | 11:00 |
| Helle | makes things a bit more flexible | 11:00 |
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| larstiq | Stskeeps: announcers in what context? | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | larstiq: as in people announcing who you are etc before a speec | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | h | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | it's usually cringeworthh | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | y | 11:20 |
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| larstiq | Stskeeps: their jobs are usually fairly important imo, in academic contexts | 11:21 |
| larstiq | (since that also includes speaker-wrangling, educating on the audience, etc) | 11:21 |
| r0kk3rz | larstiq: the info is usually redundant though | 11:22 |
| temmi_hoo | in nonacademic context the speaker is supposed to intruduce themselves | 11:22 |
| temmi_hoo | in academic circles the speakers very often just start at middle of the beef so having SOMEONE at least mention their name and affiliation and generic field of study helps a bit | 11:23 |
| larstiq | r0kk3rz: seems to me there is quite some variance, so I'd prefer to call out which specific behaviours are good/a waste | 11:24 |
| * larstiq shrugs | 11:24 | |
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| r0kk3rz | at conferences you're usually only in the room because you know what the talk is vaguely going to be about | 11:25 |
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| r0kk3rz | all you need to know is if you're in the right place, which you can see on the screen | 11:26 |
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| Stskeeps | r0kk3rz: or because you found a power socket | 11:29 |
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| parenthetically | Is there a way to update my factory resetted Jolla phone to the latest OS version without having to go through all updates one by one? | 12:07 |
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| pp_ | flash newer factory image, voiding warranty :P It's not actually all updates, only like 5ish | 12:09 |
| parenthetically | pp_: if it's only five then I'll manage! I'll flash next time. Warranty is loooong gone by now :') | 12:11 |
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| pp_ | with the one that's floating around you get to start with 1.0.8 instead of 1.0.0 (-> 1.0.4 -> 1.0.8 IIRC) | 12:16 |
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| schoppenhauer | hi. is there a vnc-server or something similar for jolla phone? (so I can access my phone from my PC screen) | 23:21 |
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