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| christoph_debian | hm. so I have carddav that my jolla totally failes to sync (no contacts show up) .. the same account with the same entries works fine in KDE Pim, Mozilla ligtning, DAVDroid and on Apple devices | 11:08 |
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| christoph_debian | any chance I can debug that and get it working on jolla? | 11:09 |
| r0kk3rz | ping chriadam ^ | 11:10 |
| mornfall | christoph_debian: fwiw, never worked for me either | 11:11 |
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| mornfall | eh, ofono just totally screwed me | 11:27 |
| mornfall | so apparently, if your phone refuses to connect to cellular, the solution is to stop ofono, move all its config (other than iccidmap, I guess) out of the way and start again | 11:28 |
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| mornfall | on one hand, I am mad that I even have to do this (my operator replaced their SIM cards and it should have just worked) ... on the other, not even mad, because I could actually fix it (after a week of thinking it was operator-side screwup) | 11:30 |
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| christoph_debian | ok so another thing .. something on my jolla sucks up the whole 1 GiB of moble data within a few hours | 12:06 |
| christoph_debian | how do I figure out whom to blame? | 12:07 |
| christoph_debian | guess I could do devel-su and tcpdump | 12:07 |
| r0kk3rz | installing ntop would probably tell you | 12:08 |
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| christoph_debian | if at least carddav sync would log *somewhere* why and where it failed | 12:57 |
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| cb400f | did you watch the webinar on youtube on caldav and carddav? iirc it had something about how to debug | 12:58 |
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| The-Compiler | Hey! I'm trying to install the Rockpool app via Warehouse, however it fails because libqt5location.so.5 wasn't found. When I try to install qt5-qtlocation via pkcon it complains about qt5-qtpositioning ("but this requirement cannot be provided"), and when installing that it fails because qt5-qtdeclarative-import-positioning requires qt5-qtpositioning = 5.2.1+git12-1.2.1... what's going on there? | 13:07 |
| abranson | The-Compiler: which sailfish version are you on? | 13:08 |
| The-Compiler | abranson: 2.0.4.14 - I tried to install -1 too because it said -2 was a rebuild for 2.0.4.15 | 13:09 |
| abranson | -2 is a rebuild for 2.0.5. -1 should be the one you need | 13:10 |
| The-Compiler | yeah, but I get that error when trying to install either -2 or -1 | 13:10 |
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| abranson | The-Compiler: hmm not sure - I think it's installed ok for others. maybe try a zypper ref beforehand? how are you installing it? | 13:16 |
| The-Compiler | abranson: I just downloaded the rpm and trying to install it via downloads | 13:16 |
| abranson | is an older version installed already? | 13:16 |
| The-Compiler | nope | 13:16 |
| The-Compiler | trying to get logs :) | 13:17 |
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| christoph_debian | hm https://sailfishos.org/wiki/CalDAV_and_CardDAV_Community_Contributions#Sync_Logs -> https://pbot.rmdir.de/oto9fsErpQzIM8eLJl6Tmg | 13:20 |
| christoph_debian | not really much | 13:20 |
| christoph_debian | ah | 13:23 |
| The-Compiler | http://paste.the-compiler.org/view/11028257 - looks like qt5-qtlocation needs qt5-qtpositioning ...-1.26.1 while I have -1.27.1? | 13:26 |
| The-Compiler | abranson: ^ | 13:26 |
| abranson | The-Compiler: can you run 'version --verify'? doesn't need root | 13:27 |
| The-Compiler | + btrfs-balancer-1.2.1-10.3.4.jolla.armv7hl | 13:27 |
| The-Compiler | - btrfs-balancer-1.2.4-1.2.4.armv7hl | 13:27 |
| christoph_debian | [D] Buteo::SyncScheduler::syncStatusChanged:175 - Background sync "caldav-sync-10" finished with status: 4 and extra: "" , 0 | 13:28 |
| abranson | The-Compiler: no mention of location or positioning? | 13:29 |
| The-Compiler | nope, only that | 13:29 |
| The-Compiler | whoa, seems like it installed after a pkgcon refresh | 13:31 |
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| christoph_debian | chriadam: I havea synclog .. but its 31k Lines and I haven't been able to check for personal informaiton in it | 13:31 |
| abranson | The-Compiler: well that's lucky, cos I had no clue what was going on there ;) | 13:31 |
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| caitlin | my jolla being a bit silly, when the phone's in use it doesn't light the screen when it's held away from my face | 17:44 |
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| caitlin | if i want to cancel a call or anything, or reach the numberpad, i have to mash physcial buttons whilst prodding the screen with the hope of getting a finger stab in whilst the device is able to interpret it | 17:44 |
| caitlin | should I be hard resetting it and restoring from a backup, or blowing compressed air into a sensor of some kind? | 17:45 |
| mornfall | sounds like a bug | 17:45 |
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| mornfall | well, I had some limited success fixing bugs with factory resets | 17:45 |
| caitlin | it's very reproducible | 17:45 |
| r0kk3rz | caitlin: csd tool can check the prox operation | 17:45 |
| mornfall | like there was this one specific lag in the UI that I saw every time and nobody could reproduce | 17:46 |
| mornfall | factory reset fixed it and noone will probably ever learn what the problem was | 17:46 |
| mornfall | or last week ofono decided to screw its config up and refused to advertise cellular data with a particular sim card... a factory reset would have fixed that too, presumably (since wiping ofono config helped) | 17:47 |
| mornfall | I imagine stuf related to proximity sensor or the phone app itself could suffer something similar | 17:48 |
| mornfall | stuff* | 17:48 |
| caitlin | heh, where *is* the proximity sensor? | 17:50 |
| cehteh | top right | 17:51 |
| caitlin | yup, unresponsive | 17:51 |
| cehteh | when you look in the dark at the phone you can see a faint red (IR) led glow there | 17:52 |
| r0kk3rz | not everyone can see IR remember | 17:52 |
| cehteh | or i can :) | 17:52 |
| cehteh | guess its near IR | 17:52 |
| r0kk3rz | using another phones camera is a good way to spot it | 17:53 |
| caitlin | i can't see anything red in there but i can't see my tv remote either :P | 17:53 |
| cehteh | i can see a few but not all tv remotes | 17:54 |
| cehteh | finally i found something my eyes are good with :D | 17:54 |
| r0kk3rz | cehteh: you've got superpowers! use them wisely and only for good | 17:54 |
| cehteh | heh | 17:54 |
| cehteh | i thought thats normal | 17:54 |
| caitlin | holy fuck, there it is glowing away | 17:55 |
| cehteh | i mean some IR leds are barely in the visible spectrum i think | 17:55 |
| caitlin | so i assume it's got a detector that's looking for splashback from that ir | 17:55 |
| cehteh | yes | 17:55 |
| cehteh | very faint dark red glow | 17:55 |
| caitlin | ok, so that bit is deffo not working csd never says 'covered' | 17:56 |
| cehteh | has a receiver next to it | 17:56 |
| caitlin | slightly special that the phone app prefers to failsafe to covered rather than uncovered | 17:56 |
| r0kk3rz | bit weird, but that would explain it | 17:57 |
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| caitlin | is that 'hardware dead, please come again' then? | 17:59 |
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| r0kk3rz | umm, maybe, worth giving the factory reset a whirl | 18:02 |
| cehteh | queryin /sys should give results indenpendent of software | 18:03 |
| cehteh | should have a node in /sys/class iirc | 18:03 |
| caitlin | after FR I can load a backup from the SD card, yeh? | 18:03 |
| cehteh | my backups are fucked up, have to fix it eventually | 18:04 |
| mornfall | caitlin: independent of 'software' ... because kernel is not software :P | 18:04 |
| mornfall | sory that was at cehteh | 18:04 |
| mornfall | sorry, too, damnit | 18:04 |
| cehteh | well i rsync the whole phone content to my backup server daily | 18:04 |
| spiiroin | caitlin: proximity sensor is actually handled by mce, not phone app; and it uses the sensor state as-is (well, except during bootup / over sensorfwd restarts) | 18:05 |
| cehteh | mornfall: yes but kernel isnt configired there, it should have that module or even compiled in and query the hardware | 18:05 |
| mornfall | cehteh: that's all nice and stuff, but if the btrfs eventually budges, factory reset probably won't help | 18:05 |
| cehteh | chances that are some obscure bugs which change your kernel in a way that this doesnt work anymore are small | 18:05 |
| mornfall | cehteh: yes, but there's a myriad ways in which to screw with the kernel | 18:05 |
| mornfall | like nuking devices by writing into 'delete' in sysfs :-) | 18:06 |
| mornfall | (probably not what happened here) | 18:06 |
| spiiroin | my experience is that usually misbehaving p-sensors tend to get stuck at "covered" state - for that there is the "three power key press" trick | 18:06 |
| cehteh | dunno i try not to screw with the kernel and put as much as possible on the sd card | 18:06 |
| spiiroin | (sensor is assumed to be in not-covered state until it starts sending data again) | 18:07 |
| cehteh | three power key press? | 18:07 |
| spiiroin | cehteh: yes, like within 1 sec | 18:07 |
| cehteh | what does that? | 18:07 |
| spiiroin | i.e. when phone rings, but you can't answer because p-sensor won't allow display unblanking | 18:08 |
| spiiroin | triple press -> go to call ui, call is muted but can be answered | 18:08 |
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| cehteh | huh new to me | 18:08 |
| cehteh | here it just locks the phone | 18:09 |
| spiiroin | or if display blanks immediately when you call to someone -> same reason | 18:09 |
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| mornfall | cehteh: it's hard to test outside the phone app | 18:10 |
| spiiroin | the control goes something like: hw -> kernel -> evdev/sysfs -> sensorfwd -> apps | 18:10 |
| spiiroin | sensorfwd has some plugins/config files, if those get corrupted then things might break | 18:11 |
| caitlin | well in exciting news, it now doesn't blank when i do calls | 18:11 |
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| caitlin | Ill reset it later and see if that helps it any | 18:12 |
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| spiiroin | caitlin: you could check if journal has something sensors related | 18:12 |
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| caitlin | /var/log/journal/ is empty | 18:21 |
| caitlin | journalctl, i see | 18:21 |
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| caitlin | no bleating of note in there | 18:27 |
| caitlin | i can't get the phone to blank during calls anymore either | 18:28 |
| caitlin | a preferable failcase anyway | 18:28 |
| mornfall | caitlin: only until you start doing stuff with your ear | 18:33 |
| caitlin | i glued it to mah heid (scottish, by transferrance) and it didn't blank | 18:34 |
| mornfall | did it blink, though? | 18:39 |
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| caitlin | it did not blink | 19:53 |
| mornfall | then maybe it's still alive | 20:01 |
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