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| Nicd- | http://leszekllelectronics.blogspot.fi/2016/10/jolla-slowly-dying-downfall-of.html | 09:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | ah its been a while since we had a good whinge post | 09:58 |
| Acce | unfortunately rather realistic opinions | 09:58 |
| Acce | not everything though | 09:59 |
| r0kk3rz | after their financing issues last year, this year was always going to be slow | 10:01 |
| r0kk3rz | you cant shed almost all of your experienced staff and suddenly pick back up once the money flows again | 10:01 |
| Acce | that is not the main point of the text | 10:02 |
| Nicd- | r0kk3rz: he acknowledges that | 10:02 |
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| r3vlibre | Well, I went very late for the N900 and I really love SailfishOS eventhough I am a basic user, I really wish Jolla could/can make their project sustainable. It's worth it. I am not good at appreciating management decisions however ;) | 10:09 |
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| MMori | I love my Jolla too, but really would buy an upgraded device with Sailfish +android support | 10:21 |
| MMori | I'm not interested in Intex Aquafish though | 10:22 |
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| till | I would like something like a fairphone 2+ (more ram for example) next year | 10:23 |
| MMori | Now that the original jolla is reachin the end of its lifespan it's only natural that people switch back to using other brands with other operating systems | 10:25 |
| MMori | I'd love to give away my money to buy a Jolla phone that's as powerful as OnePlus 3 and has androidsupport | 10:27 |
| MMori | I don't really trust TRI, they have terrible customer support | 10:28 |
| MMori | There isn't really too many options to choose from | 10:31 |
| dr_gogeta86 | MMori, so buy the oneplus3 | 10:32 |
| dr_gogeta86 | #sfdroid ... will be glad to help | 10:32 |
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| MMori | dr_gogeta86: so one plus 3 does have android suppor? :o | 10:36 |
| MMori | *support | 10:36 |
| Nicd- | MMori: just leave android on it ;) | 10:39 |
| MMori | Nicd-: ;) I like sailfish too much | 10:40 |
| Nicd- | I switched to Android 6, it's surprisingly good | 10:40 |
| Nicd- | only thing I miss are the gestures but even that is not bad | 10:41 |
| phlixi_ | ...and, its talking to google a few times per second | 10:41 |
| MMori | phlixi_: indeed | 10:42 |
| Nicd- | phlixi_: seems they are the only ones offering services that work :/ I have to be pragmatic | 10:43 |
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| phlixi_ | MMori if it has to be now, but no TRI and no Aquafish, then there is ionly fp2, and a chance that it will get official android support, as it has been "hinted" multiple times | 10:48 |
| phlixi_ | but i do not think it will come | 10:48 |
| phlixi_ | there are no official "it will ome" statements, just a few "we are working on it", but those are over years now... i doubt they actualy work on it | 10:50 |
| phlixi_ | which is sad, since i think fp and jolla are a natural fit | 10:51 |
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| MMori | phlixi_: it's good to know that fp2 has been hinted to recieve android support, I need to keep an eye on it | 10:54 |
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| tadzik | hmm, how trustworthy is "update ready for installation?" | 10:54 |
| tadzik | it finished the download suspisciously quickly, like it jumped from ~10% to "I'm done" | 10:55 |
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| pketo | tadzik: was that the first time you tried to download it? | 10:56 |
| tadzik | pketo: no, I think I made a few attempts | 10:56 |
| tadzik | it could've filled in the blanks I guess | 10:56 |
| tadzik | I'll just make a solid backup | 10:57 |
| pketo | ok, so in that case it only downloads the packages that failed to download on the previous tries | 10:57 |
| tadzik | makes sense | 10:57 |
| tadzik | I like the new backup thing, either it's the aquafish being faster or it's just a lot more hassle-free than the old one | 10:58 |
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| pdanek | Hello! | 19:26 |
| pdanek | Does anyone heard of any rumors for new Sailfish device? | 19:26 |
| coderus | Jolla X you mean? | 19:27 |
| coderus | not much yet | 19:27 |
| Acce | Jolla X? | 19:28 |
| pdanek | Jolla X? | 19:29 |
| coderus | Jolla Xperience | 19:29 |
| Hartzi | what is that? | 19:29 |
| pdanek | Do you have any source for this? | 19:29 |
| Hartzi | any sources? | 19:29 |
| Riotela | Any joke or classified information and lawyers will eat you? | 19:30 |
| Acce | we love rumors | 19:31 |
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| MMori | Oh we do | 19:31 |
| MMori | Tell us all you've got | 19:31 |
| Acce | won't Sony sue them if they call it Xperience, too close to Xperia :P | 19:32 |
| Riotela | Too close to Windows eXPerience | 19:35 |
| MMori | indeed | 19:35 |
| pdanek | How are/were the Aqua Fish sales? | 19:37 |
| pdanek | Is it selling like cupcakes in India? | 19:37 |
| Hartzi | Propably not too much | 19:37 |
| pdanek | right | 19:37 |
| Hartzi | atleast what we're able to see from ebay | 19:37 |
| pdanek | Do Early Access updates work on Aqua Fish? | 19:40 |
| Riotela | No | 19:40 |
| pdanek | :( | 19:40 |
| Hartzi | but there's a workaroud for that | 19:42 |
| Hartzi | see tjc | 19:42 |
| coderus | pdanek: https://together.jolla.com/question/148893/how-to-make-aqua-fish-to-think-its-jolla-c-not-modem/ | 19:44 |
| pdanek | thanks | 19:48 |
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| jwalck | xperience would also be very near a english word so could hold up even with trademarks all around | 19:53 |
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| mornfall | jwalck: would be expensive | 20:30 |
| mornfall | jolla isn't exactly drowning in cash | 20:31 |
| mornfall | oh, and it's lame | 20:31 |
| svuorela | hmm... what happened to the jolla maps ? | 20:33 |
| mornfall | jolla noticed nobody uses it because it's kind of useless? :p | 20:37 |
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| svuorela | I was occasionally using it when I wasn' on osmand | 20:37 |
| svuorela | but I canåt find it for my jollac | 20:38 |
| mornfall | it was axed in favour of here-ish android app | 20:38 |
| mornfall | afair | 20:38 |
| mornfall | (for aqua fish at least, probably for c as well) | 20:38 |
| svuorela | the one that wwantaccess to your phone and addressbook and everything ? | 20:38 |
| mornfall | yeah | 20:39 |
| mornfall | security first | 20:39 |
| svuorela | I kind of said no... | 20:39 |
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| jwalck | mornfall: oh I agree I don't care much about naming. <no name> and C was fine for the first two phones. And "tablet" lacked in imagination but was descriptive.:) | 20:42 |
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| pdanek | Try to compare state of Sailfish OS 2 years ago compared to Android | 21:08 |
| pdanek | and now | 21:08 |
| pdanek | which time was a larger gap between them? | 21:08 |
| pdanek | Did Sailfish become closer to be better than Android, or keep up the same, or started losing the race? | 21:09 |
| pdanek | now and 2 years ago (not SFOS release date) | 21:09 |
| Nicd- | SFOS has gotten the most basic features that people want (but still missing some) while android has gotten very good high level features like new permissions control | 21:12 |
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| phlixi_ | and it still talk home several times a second | 21:34 |
| pdanek | phlixi_: does it? | 21:34 |
| pdanek | I know nexuses do | 21:34 |
| pdanek | but other ROMs, do they? | 21:35 |
| phlixi_ | as soon as you have google play services (which are mandatory if you want playstore) | 21:35 |
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| phlixi_ | its the busines model... you pay with data, nothing new | 21:36 |
| Nicd- | phlixi_: jollas phone home with location info too anyway :P | 21:38 |
| Nicd- | phlixi_: I tried life with SFOS for 3 years. it isn't for me | 21:41 |
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| pdanek1 | Riotela: Do you use Sandstone case with 1+3? | 22:11 |
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