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| lpotter | is it my imagination or has jolla 1 stopped receiving updates? | 00:48 |
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| Lieke | your imagination | 00:54 |
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| fennekki | I definitely got the latest update a few days ago | 03:24 |
| fennekki | so | 03:24 |
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| juiceme | yes, 2.0.4.14 come out to public for original sbj1 at the same time as to other devices. | 04:34 |
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| Marzanna[m] | Still no update for AquaFish :( | 04:39 |
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| lpotter | huh.. wonder my two phones are stuck at 2.0.2 | 05:24 |
| Stskeeps | ssu s | 05:24 |
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| lpotter | registered. rnd devel | 05:27 |
| lpotter | and I see it's been 3 years since that big Jolla hack fest in Helsinki | 05:27 |
| Stskeeps | ah, if it's registered then your credentials were probably revoked so it wouldn't succeed in updating, maybe | 05:28 |
| Stskeeps | would need to switch to mainline | 05:28 |
| lpotter | weird. it updated last like two months ago or something | 05:35 |
| Stskeeps | probably took ages to prune accounts :P | 05:39 |
| Jope | hehe | 05:41 |
| lpotter | well I cannot seem to register with ssu, but my jolla account account.jolla.com still works and lists my devices | 05:46 |
| Stskeeps | that's jolla account not ldap | 05:46 |
| lpotter | so.. I got kicked out of developer program without notice? | 05:51 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, that's not ldap though | 05:53 |
| Stskeeps | afaik | 05:53 |
| Stskeeps | jolla accounts = public infrastructure | 05:54 |
| * Stskeeps has to go to an embassy | 05:55 | |
| Jope | true, jolla accounts are not automatically synced to ldap accounts in any way | 05:55 |
| lpotter | so when I log into 'allow developer updates' that isn;t the same as the store account where I publish apps? | 05:55 |
| Jope | hhmmmm.. | 05:55 |
| Jope | that's probably the same, yes | 05:56 |
| lpotter | because I cannot 'allow developer updates' | 05:56 |
| lpotter | but I can log into jolla count web site | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | developer updates != developer programme afaik | 05:56 |
| Jope | true | 05:56 |
| Jope | developer updates is a bit in your public jolla account.. | 05:56 |
| Jope | which apparently have been disabled | 05:57 |
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| lpotter | is the public joll account the same as account.jolla.com? because that still works | 05:57 |
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| Jope | yes | 05:59 |
| lpotter | huh.. I'm stumped, because I cannot update my phones, nor install developer mode. | 06:06 |
| Jope | manually select a public release with ssu | 06:07 |
| Jope | and zypper dup | 06:07 |
| Jope | or you don't have a terminal any longer? | 06:07 |
| lpotter | I do have term | 06:07 |
| Jope | ok | 06:07 |
| Jonni | lpotter: have you changed domain back to sales? | 06:07 |
| Jope | then you can get out of that situation | 06:08 |
| Jope | jonni, most intermediate releases are not listed in the ssu db | 06:08 |
| lpotter | yes. did not help | 06:08 |
| Jope | so the public release is not offered to devices running a non-released release | 06:08 |
| Jope | is this the correct place to discuss this kind of stuff tho | 06:08 |
| Jope | :-D | 06:08 |
| lpotter | :) hmmm | 06:09 |
| Jope | but nevertheless, you can select a released release with ssu | 06:09 |
| Jope | and make sure you have domain sales | 06:09 |
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| Jope | then update manually :-) | 06:10 |
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| Jonni | so basicly "ssu domain sales; ssu re 2.0.[whatever publicreleasenumber]; version --dup" | 06:12 |
| Jope | yeaah | 06:12 |
| Jope | version dup yes, not zypper dup.. | 06:12 |
| Jope | time goes on and information drops out of the brain.. | 06:13 |
| lpotter | 'Enable developer mode to use rnd-dist-ipgrade' | 06:16 |
| Jope | can you zypper ref ; zypper dup | 06:19 |
| Jope | of course one option is to just reflash to a public release, if you have the old files hanging around on your hd | 06:19 |
| lpotter | a reboot seemed to do the trick | 06:22 |
| lpotter | heh | 06:22 |
| lpotter | thanks Jope, Jonni | 06:23 |
| Jope | np, it was fun to reminisce.. | 06:24 |
| lpotter | :D | 06:25 |
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| lpotter | ok. now I can get back to work :) | 06:30 |
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| phlixi_o | voip on sailfish... | 15:35 |
| phlixi_o | still pain? | 15:35 |
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| r0kk3rz | hey lpotter, weird question. have you any experience with the android sensor HAL on recentish sony devices? | 15:38 |
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| pdanek | Do you think VR is just temporary hype thing like smartwatches or it is start of huge VR future? | 17:12 |
| Lieke | i hope it's going to stay | 17:12 |
| Lieke | still waiting for my psvr | 17:12 |
| ahjolinna | I think I'm going to buy PSVR next year when Resident Evil 7 has arrived (if its good) ....for my PS4pro :P | 17:15 |
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| ahjolinna | about smartwatches, I like the idea...there arent just so many that have done any good/right implementation of them yet...I'm intrested in the Nokia's owned Withings Steel HR (http://www.trustedreviews.com/withings-steel-hr-review) | 17:20 |
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| pdanek | hmm | 17:28 |
| pdanek | And what do you think of mobile phone powered VR glasses? | 17:28 |
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| pdanek | Considering how much more powerful the phones are getting every year, it should be the main drive for VR right? | 17:29 |
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| pdanek | So Turing phone is legitimate and representative phone for Jolla! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEsHUaaI0Bc | 17:38 |
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| mornfall | haven't heard of turing in a while | 17:51 |
| mornfall | according to wikipedia, predecessor: jolla... funny eh :) | 17:51 |
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| mornfall | can't find much on that that's newer than 2015 | 18:00 |
| mornfall | pdanek: do you have some actual info, or just that one video? | 18:00 |
| mornfall | http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/09/01/lolwut/ | 18:02 |
| temmi_hoo | pdanek: vr was coming big twenty years ago | 18:05 |
| temmi_hoo | then everyone and their dog got on the internet-as-without-william-gibson and thought avatars-walking-in-wondervoxeland was all crap and basically just forgot about it | 18:06 |
| temmi_hoo | 2nd life is just about the only thing that's left of the vrml explosion | 18:06 |
| temmi_hoo | people who are there just _are_ there and umm well | 18:06 |
| mornfall | wonder what will be left of the turing explosion :) | 18:07 |
| temmi_hoo | it's a bit like the c64 game little computer people | 18:07 |
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| pdanek | mornfall: just a video, I mean it's official video from Jolla channel presenting fingerprint reader and they showcase that on Turing, it means they assure the public that this is a legitimate phone and not a scam? :D | 18:16 |
| pdanek | if it was a scam company, why would they want to associate with them? | 18:17 |
| mornfall | pdanek: no idea, just general desperation? they are shipping though (TRI, that is) | 18:20 |
| mornfall | pdanek: the original turing phone, the two new phones they announced are probably not going to happen :p | 18:20 |
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| mornfall | there are photos in https://www.reddit.com/r/turing_tech_support/?count=25&after=t3_58g3jg (and the next page) | 18:22 |
| r0kk3rz | who knows, maybe this steven chao guy has some backing from from chinese ogliarchs or something | 18:22 |
| mornfall | doesn't seem particularly unbreakable | 18:22 |
| r0kk3rz | because hes going to need a shedload of money to pull some of this stuff off | 18:23 |
| mornfall | in fact, it looks like any other smartphone that chinese factories have been pumping millions of | 18:24 |
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| r0kk3rz | mornfall: its made of weird crystaline metal that you can injection mold | 18:29 |
| pdanek | who cares about slightly stronger metals, if the screen will shutter the same? | 18:31 |
| pdanek | this guy is doing bend test on most of the smartphones, and it proves that you can't really break them: https://www.youtube.com/user/JerryRigEverything/videos | 18:32 |
| pdanek | but screen is the problem | 18:32 |
| r0kk3rz | no idea :P its their gimmick | 18:33 |
| pdanek | yep | 18:33 |
| pdanek | it's like company selling windows with standard glass but indestructible frames :D | 18:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah well they dont have any patents for extra unbreakable glass | 18:34 |
| r0kk3rz | and imo phone shells are on the lower end of materials science applications | 18:35 |
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| pdanek | Which display is better for reading? Less eye fatigue? TFT or OLED? | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | i'm sure google knows | 18:46 |
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| temmi_hoo | i know zero people who have broken their phone plastic shell enough to matter but most people i know have by now broken at least one phone screen bad enough to make them obtain a new phone | 18:47 |
| temmi_hoo | so yes i'm agreeing that the shell material is of no importance no matter how metal it is | 18:47 |
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| lpotter | r0kk3rz: no. do not have any sony devices | 18:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | lpotter: hmm ok, thanks anyway | 19:10 |
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| pdanek | Quite a lot of updates coming to Sailfish I see | 20:42 |
| pdanek | does it mean the development team is back in business as before? | 20:42 |
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| pdanek | do you have high hopes | 20:42 |
| pdanek | ? | 20:42 |
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| deei | hi, anyone know how to get sshd to start after a reboot? systemctl enable sshd didn't work | 22:18 |
| deei | i currently have to start it up manually every time on theterminal app | 22:19 |
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| cehteh | deei: developer modes does that | 22:33 |
| cehteh | (i would like if ssdh could be started independently to devel mode too) | 22:34 |
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