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citylight2can the android apps use the jolla bluetooth?08:16
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dr_gogeta86no08:18
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phlixi_o"Please wait while content is being backed up"09:35
phlixi_o...how long should i wait?09:35
phlixi_oif i think about it, i asume there is not enough space on the sd card09:36
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jwalckphlixi_o: that process has a known bug of hanging. i think the solution is restart, start the backup from settings -> backup manually, then do the upgrade (not choosing backup)09:57
phlixi_othanks a lot jwalck09:58
phlixi_ocan i just close the "app"09:58
jwalckiirc it can lock up completely. if you fail to close it (swiping from top, locking / unlocking with button... I say hold the button for restart09:59
phlixi_oand, by the way its still "hanging" (but, while the ui seems to block sqyping out of the app, i can easily get around that by turning off display and turning on again09:59
jwalckphlixi_o: if you can do a proper reboot - do that. then backup as above! I think this bug was solved with fiskarsinjoki so last time you should have to do this.:)10:00
jwalckafk for lunch, good luck! o/10:00
phlixi_obon appetit10:00
phlixi_othis seems getting more cumbersome than i thought... ...not enough space on sd card... seems like the backup up now insists on sd card -.-10:03
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jwalckphlixi_o: they do require that since a backup on local storage isnt very helpful if your device would get bricked. sd card or cloud, something that's not bound to the device12:52
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phlixi_osure, i understand that, but i handled that a bit differently12:53
r0kk3rzstop being clever then :P12:53
phlixi_osd is for storing podcasts exclusivly (and sometimes acting as a usb drive)12:53
phlixi_oeveryting else should be contained on the phone12:54
phlixi_obut well, seems it will change^^12:54
phlixi_ono big deal...12:54
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phlixi_o...i have more serious problems, as my patch for mount-sd.sh seems no longer to work :D12:54
phlixi_o(another thing where i did not stop beeing smart^^)12:55
jwalckphlixi_o: oh, well you have to keep up with your cleverness and patch again then it seem.:)12:57
jwalck(i take it the upgrade went well then, good to hear!:)12:57
phlixi_oi did, but it does not work12:57
phlixi_oyes, worked12:57
phlixi_oi made a backup manually, which was a bit weird... but in the end it worked12:57
phlixi_oi kept insisting on updating an old backup, but that failed jada jada12:58
phlixi_oit kept*12:58
phlixi_ocreating a new one worked, and then update went flawless as usual12:59
phlixi_o...except my patch for /usr/sbin/mount-sd.sh does no longer have the desired effect ;-(13:00
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phlixi_onow converting an update worked...13:35
phlixi_o...is there an ui to delete backups? i only need the most recent one13:35
phlixi_o...or just delete the tar?13:36
phlixi_ooh in settings torage i can browse files... is that new? however i can not see the full filenames, those arer too long, and no landscape :-( thus i dont know which of the two tars is the older one...13:38
r0kk3rznewish i think13:42
r0kk3rzits not a bad file brower, shame its so hidden13:42
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phlixi_oi dont mind its hiddeness... i think a filebrowser should not be your most used tool on a phone anyway...14:53
phlixi_o(of course its important to have one^^)14:53
phlixi_obut i think is a flaw that it is impossible to read long filenames14:54
the_mgtuse the shell, luke14:55
the_mgtto the command line, robin14:55
caitlinbwhat kind of size backups are you seeing? this is the first time i’ve been asked for an SD card, I have a couple at home, but perhaps I need a larger one14:57
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phlixi_othe newest backup i made is 513mb. i asume it is mostly pictures (maybe a few hundred, i rarely use the camera15:11
phlixi_oactually it is 531, but whatever^^15:13
caitlinbcheers, i’ve got a few gig sd thingies around, i don’t have a lot on the phone because it’s all bolted to my stupid private cloud \o/15:14
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phlixi_oso, i checked the tar, in terms of data volume, its 10mib for the browser, a few kib for everything else except pictures (actually around 270KiB together) and the rest, around 98% is "gallery"15:25
phlixi_ocaitlin15:25
phlixi_o...as expected^^15:25
phlixi_owhoops,15:26
phlixi_ocaitlinb15:26
phlixi_o:D15:26
phlixi_othere is a huge number of thumbnails for browsertabs... including some pretty old ones...15:28
phlixi_obut whatever...^^15:28
caitlinbcaitlin and caitlinb are actualy the same idiot on two connections15:28
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phlixi_ocaitlin, caitlinb, kind of like phlixi_ and phlixi_o?15:45
phlixi_o:D15:45
caitlinbpotentially!15:45
phlixi_oactually pretty sure, including the idiot-flag15:45
caitlinbhehe, I’ve got a znc somewhere abouts but i don’t connect to that from work etc15:46
phlixi_o20 years ago i was loggin in remotly into bitchx, screen etc... today i just have two clients running :D15:47
phlixi_ogui is not always bad :D15:47
Venemo_jhey15:58
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tango_phlixi_: today it's irssi inside tmux rather bitchx under screen18:25
phlixi_:)18:25
phlixi_i recently watched mr. robot (highly recommended btw), and had a smile on my face once i saw they all use bitchx...18:26
phlixi_so obviuosly its not dead yet^^18:26
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tango_phlixi_: honesty I still prefer this kind of setup. it means i don't lose anything if the connection drops (e.g. from the jolla)18:26
tango_even though sshing from the jolla is still a bit of a pain18:27
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phlixi_maybe once i have too much time i will look into znc or similar stuff, but right know i am fine running mirc :D18:29
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coderusi am using weechat on vps and connecting using glowing bear...19:27
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phlixi_that sounds interesting too20:57
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