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| abranson_ | Yaniel: Did you reset the tracker after you got rid of that html file? | 06:09 |
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| ztane | hi, is there any way to change those "on-off" "led" indicators to something more sensible in sailfish apps, I didn't wake up in time because I misunderstood the active/inactive indicator in the alarm app :D | 08:03 |
| tadzik | hmm, in openrepos there is some alternative system ui themes, they may be clearer to you | 08:09 |
| tadzik | I recall something called "flat ui" | 08:09 |
| ztane | I am not still sure about the default UI in alarm, there is dim white, and even dimmer red, I guess the red is "active" :D | 08:14 |
| ztane | or white | 08:14 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah red is active, now you mention it, it is a little inverted | 08:16 |
| r0kk3rz | the other clue is the alarm icon in the status bar | 08:16 |
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| ztane | :/ | 08:20 |
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| tadzik | ...red? | 08:26 |
| r0kk3rz | tadzik: ambience colour | 08:28 |
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| ztane | yeap, my bad, haven't been using jolla for ages | 08:35 |
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| ztane | I am too dependent on google services :/ | 08:36 |
| ztane | but samsung bricked my phone | 08:36 |
| r0kk3rz | oh nice | 08:36 |
| ztane | ... in forced update | 08:36 |
| r0kk3rz | you can install google services if you really need it | 08:37 |
| r0kk3rz | but sure enough, there does come a point where you're probably just better off with an android phone | 08:37 |
| ztane | yeah, the worst thing is that I cannot see bus schedules on my phone without google services :D | 08:37 |
| rigo | with the update, aliendalvik works and I was able to install "here" on a jollaC \o/ | 08:38 |
| rigo | btw, fonts for modrana on jollaC are way too small. How can we motivate the dev to work on it? | 08:38 |
| r0kk3rz | rigo: talk to M4rtink about it, maybe he doesnt have a jolla c | 08:39 |
| ztane | jolla c has 4.4 aliendalvik? | 08:39 |
| coderus | ztane: yes | 08:42 |
| ztane | I found out that some of the apps that I depended on, require 4.3 :F I guess it is not possible to get it in the original. | 08:43 |
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| pp_ | with luck you can edit the manifest to make it think it doesn't need 4.3 :-) | 08:49 |
| rigo | r0kk3rz: thanks, best on tjo or tmo or here? | 08:49 |
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| pp_ | I think that was enough to make pokemon work badly :P | 08:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | rigo: hes often around here, or theres bound to be a modrana thread on tmo | 08:50 |
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| nightslacker | hi folks...just a day with sailfish... | 09:01 |
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| Stskeepz | how is it so far? | 09:02 |
| nightslacker | could anyone help me with setting wallpaper apart from inbuilt ambience? | 09:02 |
| Nicd- | find a photo in the photo gallery and use "create ambience" | 09:03 |
| nightslacker | like the gestures for tasks approach ...slowlt getting a hang of it.. | 09:03 |
| chriadam | PSA, CalDAV/CardDAV Contributor Meeting on in #mer-meeting now | 09:03 |
| rigo | ah, Stskeepz, when will we have aliendalvik in a chrooted environment where I can control e.g. internet access? | 09:03 |
| Stskeepz | rigo: well, it's already chrooted, if you want it can probably be containerised | 09:04 |
| Stskeepz | there's shell scripts | 09:04 |
| rigo | I think this is very important. Because when talking to people around me, they are fed up with spying android and not ready to sell their soul to Apple total control | 09:05 |
| nightslacker | one more: apps dont read my external card....so i got to manually copy paste to card.... | 09:05 |
| rigo | which means, security has to be seen to be done | 09:05 |
| Stskeepz | rigo: yeah.. just personally not that much involved with jolla anymore, too much on my own business | 09:05 |
| rigo | so if it android apps are already contained/chrooted, I just need an interface to turn the internet off | 09:06 |
| rigo | Stskeepz: =:-} | 09:06 |
| rigo | btw, I won my project that does corporate compliance with linked data. Will be interesting research | 09:07 |
| r0kk3rz | rigo: thats most likely an area that will eventually see work | 09:07 |
| rigo | and I hope the jolla people will finally get a bit more business savvy and sell the acqua fish/fairphone2 with SFOS as jolla brand in the EU with some benefit | 09:08 |
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| PaulePan1er | Hi. Is prelink used by Sailfish OS? | 09:09 |
| PaulePan1er | https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Prelink | 09:09 |
| rigo | while I can understand that they don't want to go back into hardware production, I can't understand why they do not use the potential of the shop | 09:09 |
| r0kk3rz | rigo: im not sure thats 'business savvy' more 'we've already burnt a big pile of cash chasing that idea, maybe we wont want to burn another one' | 09:10 |
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| nightslacker | anyone to get me through the task of writing to external memory card? should i re-mount with new permissions? | 09:12 |
| tadzik | r0kk3rz: ah, right | 09:17 |
| Stskeepz | PaulePanter: used to | 09:18 |
| PaulePanter | Stskeepz: Good to know. | 09:18 |
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| rigo | r0kk3rz: jollaC was sold 163€ and was gone in 15min. If jolla would have sold it 199€ I would still have bought it and it wouldn't have been gone in 15min, but in 20min... That's what I mean. They could do the same by taking a fairphone2, fix the SFOS install once for all and put it on the shop for fairphone + X €. I'm sure they get a deal in Amsterdam | 09:26 |
| r0kk3rz | selling a handful of phones to enthusiasts isnt quite the same as selling them as an ongoing concern | 09:27 |
| r0kk3rz | particularly without warranty and such | 09:27 |
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| evenfall | rigo: how many did they sell? | 09:53 |
| evenfall | rigo: maybe it was enough to pay a developer for a month... maybe not even that | 09:53 |
| evenfall | rigo: selling phones in the numbers jolla can manage is pocket change | 09:55 |
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| r0kk3rz | about 1500 phones i think? | 09:55 |
| r0kk3rz | between two jolla c rounds | 09:55 |
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| rigo | ok, update had some bad effects on bluetooth | 10:23 |
| rigo | audio stream is sometimes shuttered and produces artifacts | 10:24 |
| rigo | ... some magic self healing under way, so far stable again. But I had audio on the phone instead of headset for calls. Now for music it works after I closed some applications | 10:28 |
| rigo | no self healing ... :( | 10:28 |
| rigo | rebooting | 10:28 |
| rigo | ah, on startup jollaC asks whether it can use the HFP service | 10:31 |
| rigo | still, the audio connection is awful | 10:31 |
| rigo | trying a different headset | 10:31 |
| till | I had problems with bluetooth as well prior to 2.0.4 | 10:33 |
| till | but didn't check so far with 2.0.4 | 10:33 |
| rigo | hm, different headset works, but not connected as HFP | 10:33 |
| rigo | trying the other headset with computer audio to exclude dect issues | 10:34 |
| rigo | till, I switched yesterday to 2.0.4.13 | 10:35 |
| till | I did last week | 10:35 |
| till | oh wait, I took a call via bluetooth, and it worked :) | 10:35 |
| rigo | hm, dect works fine. So the pairing in HFP mode goes wrong | 10:35 |
| rigo | till: yes, the other headset worked fine and the OS prior to update worked fine too | 10:36 |
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| r0kk3rz | seems to work ok on Jolla c, not sure about jphone | 10:37 |
| till | well, not really. in the past my headset often didn't connect when switched on, and neither my did my bt speaker. and wifi seemed to interfere with bt, it was disconnecting quite often | 10:37 |
| till | but apart from the one call I didn't used bt on 2.0.4 so far | 10:37 |
| rigo | r0kk3rz: works with my jabra headset that connects as audio, but doesn't work with my plantronics headset that connects as HFP. I renewed the paring, but issue was still there | 10:38 |
| r0kk3rz | rigo: there was something in the changelog about hands free profile | 10:38 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe they broke it | 10:38 |
| rigo | yes, that's what I can report. Have a URI handy for the change log? | 10:39 |
| r0kk3rz | its on tjc | 10:39 |
| rigo | ok, thanks | 10:39 |
| locusf | re-pairing seems to work best when HFP profile is on | 10:41 |
| locusf | so that headphones can have A2DP afterwards | 10:41 |
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| rigo | r0kk3rz: yes, they touched bluez, so probably broke it. There are already reports on TJC | 10:59 |
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| klopsi-u3 | hyvää iltaa | 17:06 |
| Nicd- | klopsi-u3: english in this channel | 17:20 |
| Yaniel | #jollasuomi is the other channel | 17:21 |
| klopsi-u3 | ok! | 17:21 |
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| klopsi-u3 | hi Stskeeps what are you working on nowadays? | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | klopsi-u3: making the world a better place | 18:34 |
| klopsi-u3 | thank you for your work! | 18:34 |
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| klopsi-u3 | can you be more specific? | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | not yet :) | 19:05 |
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| Riotela | There is also #jollafanclub | 19:34 |
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