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| Bysmyyr | pdanek: I do not know that but it works with native youtube app | 05:49 |
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| Yaniel | YTPlayer does continue playback in the background | 05:52 |
| Nicd- | it's configurable | 05:54 |
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| Tomo | youtube android app on android wont continue playback which is pretty annoying | 06:25 |
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| Yaniel | youtube ios app doesn't continue playback in the background so I'm not really surprised | 06:49 |
| Yaniel | is there any reason to use the android app over the native sailfish one? | 06:49 |
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| Bysmyyr | I think that is google some policy | 06:54 |
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| sakustar | Yaniel: not really? if youre more familiar with the ui it might be better while driving but id use premade playlists :D | 07:27 |
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| r0kk3rz | RIP BBOS | 16:00 |
| r0kk3rz | "BlackBerry has announced that it plans to stop making its own phones as the struggling company continues to focus on its software and security products" | 16:01 |
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| stephg | is BBIM still a thing? | 16:08 |
| stephg | or did it get lost in the great deluge of chat apps of 2014-15 | 16:09 |
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| tbr | this seems to be a trend, mobile phone companies in name only. Nokia, Jolla, BB, ... | 16:19 |
| coderus | mobile phone companies without mobiles? | 16:24 |
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| r0kk3rz | stephg: bbm lost its purpose when they backdoored it for the nsa | 16:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | tbr: do you think they could convince an OEM to put QNX on it? or is BBOS10 basically done | 16:35 |
| tbr | r0kk3rz: I think QNX as a mobile device OS is quite well burried. Last I heard it only was left as possibly a car RTOS. | 16:38 |
| r0kk3rz | my employers sell a qnx based device, but from what ive heard your only choice is android in the mobile world | 16:40 |
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| chem|st | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=97666 | 16:54 |
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| pdanek | Nicd-: Hi, what did you mean it's configurable? You mean I can configure AlienDalvik to force Android apps to be running in background? I mean android apps which normally don't have background support like Youtube | 18:05 |
| Nicd- | pdanek: no I meant the native youtube app YTPlayer | 18:13 |
| Yaniel | I wouldn't be surprised if the native app used significantly less battery too | 18:14 |
| Yaniel | after all it's not a webapp, unlike the android one | 18:15 |
| pdanek | oh ok, I know the native app | 18:19 |
| pdanek | I wasn't so much interested in youtube specifically, but rather giving an example to understand if AlienDalvik can something play android app in the background without the app itself supporting it :) | 18:20 |
| pdanek | to make the app think that it's actually playing in the foreground :) | 18:20 |
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| Tegu | too bad YTPlayer doesn't play many songs. "No video streams available" | 18:23 |
| pdanek | I actually ended up using 95% of Android apps on my Jolla before | 18:25 |
| pdanek | because they were just more feature full and up to dated | 18:25 |
| pdanek | so perhaps using Sailfish lost sense for me | 18:25 |
| pdanek | I loved the OS, but I'm all about the apps :) | 18:26 |
| pdanek | so back to Android :( | 18:26 |
| pdanek | but good news, I can maybe buy Google Pixel, codenamed Sailfish!!! | 18:26 |
| pdanek | new android phone called Sailfish :D | 18:26 |
| Yaniel | Tegu: probably outdated ytdl again | 18:37 |
| Tegu | Yaniel: ye, probably. however, I even tried LL's video player which is supposedly able to update youtube-dl separately. but even it doesn't seem to help :/ the same video plays just fin on desktop with the newest ytdl | 18:50 |
| Yaniel | :( | 18:52 |
| Yaniel | then again, mpv used to have problems with some videos because the format it requested resolved to DASH | 18:52 |
| Yaniel | and it doesn't understand that yet | 18:53 |
| Yaniel | apparently that can be worked around with some ytdl config tweak | 18:53 |
| Tegu | weird.. the video plays if I grab the URL with "youtube-dl -g", pipe it to a .pls file and open that in LL's video player | 18:59 |
| Tegu | and I used the youtube-dl in ~/.local/share/harbour-videoPlayer/harbour-videoPlayer/youtube-dl so it should work directly as well? | 19:00 |
| Tegu | or actually .m3u instead. not sure if it matters | 19:01 |
| Yaniel | pretty sure just requesting a non-DASH format would fix it | 19:01 |
| Tegu | perhaps | 19:01 |
| Yaniel | if you want to try it, the mpv workaround is https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/pull/3571/commits/90306ee10ac43c9ec992fb478532abae0a210851 | 19:04 |
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| Tegu | oh, mpv has ditched quvi? | 19:11 |
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| Yaniel | long ago | 19:15 |
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| Tegu | weird, LL's video player invokes youtube-dl exactly in the same way as I did in command line. blah, I don't bother to compile that to try the http_dash_segments trick and I'll just play these videos on sailfish-browser or something.. | 19:28 |
| Tegu | https://github.com/llelectronics/videoPlayer/blob/master/src/youtubedl-helper.hpp#L58 | 19:28 |
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| Tegu | asd, it works when I repoaced the youtube-dl of YTPlayer with the updated version from LL's player. too bad it requires root and it's not a long-term solution as google keeps breaking youtube-dl | 19:40 |
| Helle | so anyone want to pay Google infinite money ? because that is the only way they'll stop breaking it | 19:42 |
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| Tegu | :( | 19:50 |
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