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EyeA)0!1@ Jolla )0h10:29
abranson_r0kk3rz: imagine having a choice of maemo/meego/sailfish device. i don't think there's ever been more than one model on sale at once at any time.10:40
r0kk3rzabranson_: yes it would be wonderful and solve a lot of debates over screen size (hopefully)10:40
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r0kk3rzbut if intex continues to sell the aquafisk and turing actually release the real deal, and maybe this oysters thing pans out10:42
r0kk3rzthats a choice of 310:42
locusfports?10:42
r0kk3rzlocusf: aside from ports of course10:42
locusfagain, Jolla is a software company10:42
abranson_r0kk3rz: hey i'm not going to get sailfish device A next, I much prefer sailfish device B. I pity anyone who buys device A.10:43
r0kk3rzabranson_: :D10:43
r0kk3rzfascists gonna fascist10:43
abranson_this phone kills fascists10:44
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abranson_ooh want a jolla sticker saying that please10:44
EyeAwhat is Device A10:45
EyeAA jolla10:45
EyeAand Device B10:45
EyeAan Aqua FISH10:45
r0kk3rzabranson_: me too!10:47
abranson_EyeA: imaginary future choices of Sailfish devices ;)10:47
Nicd-I did it, I ordered an Android phone10:48
Nicd-after 3 years with Jolla 110:48
SQUelcherI switched from Symbian S60 to Sailfish, i'm not quite ready for another switch :P10:49
Nicd-let's see how it goes. the whole mobile market seems to be an exercise in optimizing for the least bad phone10:50
EyeAs6o to Maemo to MEgoo to Salfish10:52
EyeAnow Driod10:52
EyeAand SailFIsh10:52
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EyeAstill pull out the N900 and N9 and think what happend10:55
Nicd-I'm going away from Sailfish for the time being. not really good that I can't rely on my phone10:56
JopeI went android10:56
Jopethe only option after sailfish really10:56
Jopeunless you buy a dumbphone10:56
Hartzisome rare bugs makes SFOS really PITA to use sometimes10:59
Nicd-more closer to rules than exceptions on my phone it seems11:00
Hartzilast friday I was in the middle of the f*king nowhere and needed to call help. Had to reboot my phone cause some network issues..11:00
EyeASFOS is in its early day11:01
EyeAdays11:01
Nicd-well it's 3 years now11:02
Nicd-basic stuff isn't working11:02
EyeAsure11:02
LarstiQNicd-: anything in particular?11:02
r0kk3rzLarstiQ: indeed call handling and network stuff can be a bit funny at times. but that stuff is *hard* to get right11:03
LarstiQyeah11:03
r0kk3rzmy dualsim is doing *interesting* things that i should really poke into11:03
Nicd-LarstiQ: calendar sync and contact sync with google can't be trusted. they start and stop working by themselves. browser is extremely slow and using it OOM kills other apps often. sometimes the phone just kills the whole UI and all apps.11:04
Nicd-also sometimes when I create a calendar event, it just goes nowhere11:04
HartziLarstiQ: the phone keeps loosing network/Internet connection regualry.11:04
Nicd-so I have to create calendar events in google's web interface and hope that they sync to my phone11:04
r0kk3rzNicd-: caldav/cardav stuff is getting renewed interest from jolla11:05
Nicd-r0kk3rz: too late11:05
LarstiQHartzi: Jolla1/Jolla C?11:05
Hartziboth of them11:05
Hartzibut I think C does it more11:05
Nicd-one thing that keeps happening is that I can see all of my google calendars in the phone calendar's settings, but it randomly shows events from one or more of them11:06
LarstiQHartzi: in a reproducible way, or "it happens from time to time"?11:06
Nicd-so maybe one day I can see my work calendar, next day I can't11:06
Nicd-so I've just had it with SFOS for now11:06
HartziLarstiQ: Last friday I was really pissed off. When I needed most to make a call I was unable to do it fast.11:07
HartziLarstiQ: "it happens from time to time"11:07
LarstiQHartzi: I am sorry that happened :/11:07
r0kk3rzyeah, impossible to diagnose network funkyness...11:08
r0kk3rzLarstiQ: who is the dualsim expert @ jolla?11:09
LarstiQr0kk3rz: telephony are slava and jpoutiai, ui martin and jpetrell11:10
Hartziand I think that dual sim causes the most of the Internet connectivity issues. After I disabled my another sim card there were less issues: instead of loosing connection multiple times every day, now it happens "only" a couple of times per week.11:11
LarstiQHartzi: mobile data involved?11:14
LarstiQech sorry, you said Internet11:14
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LarstiQunless you mean that dual sim impacts wifi11:15
HartziI meant Internet connection via mobile data11:16
Hartziwifi never fails so something positive there..11:16
Nicd-heh, my Jolla still doesn't work in my workplace's wifi :P11:17
Nicd-even though it's not wpa2 enterprise11:17
EyeAIS IT HIT joLLA TIME11:18
EyeAJolla )01!@ )0h11:19
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r0kk3rzLarstiQ: ok i will do some log capturing and ping those guys11:37
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EyeAJolla )01!@ )0h12:32
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Nicd-stop saying that :P12:33
r0kk3rzNicd-: but how will we know its the real EyeA and not an imposter?12:34
Hartzithank God imposter can't copy & paste12:36
Hartziimposters*12:36
r0kk3rzexactly12:36
Lieke_yeah, would be annoying if i had to add impostors to my ignore list as well12:37
EyeAhej laver du12:43
EyeAJolla )0h12:44
EyeAwho is running Mac12:45
EyeAor WIn12:45
EyeAOr Linux12:45
EyeAor even Unix or BSD or OS212:46
Hartziwtf question is that?12:49
Nicd-who is using software raise your hands up!12:50
Nicd-or hardware12:50
EyeA? that drives you daily life12:50
r0kk3rzriscos is where its at12:50
HartziNicd-: I prefer vaporware.12:51
EyeAis SFOS run on Intel12:53
EyeAdoes SFOS run on Intel12:53
Nicd-yes12:53
EyeAx6412:53
Nicd-the tablet is amd6412:54
Nicd-I think12:54
EyeAthough would you need touch screen12:54
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EyeAJolla )0!1@ )0h14:45
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