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| pdanek | Good morning | 11:11 |
| pdanek | Do you guys know any trick how to get Tele2 30-day contract in Sweden? | 11:11 |
| pdanek | I just moved here but they require Swedish ID | 11:12 |
| pdanek | prepaid cards are just stealing | 11:12 |
| pdanek | I thought of asking my colleague at work to order it for me. | 11:12 |
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| r0kk3rz | surely a passport would suffice | 11:20 |
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| zebbiz_pi | r0kk3rz: No, I don't think so. What's needed isn't an ID to show who you are, but a number with your birthdate and something else to bind to you as a person | 14:29 |
| zebbiz_pi | If pdanek just moved to Sweden it will take a while before he gets one | 14:30 |
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| Stskeeps | a passport number is usually OK in other countriew | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | even wit personal ID numbe3s | 14:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | zebbiz_pi: yeah right, obviously something strict in sweden | 15:18 |
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| zebbiz_pi | I've heard horror stories of people that move here and can't get a job because they don't have a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_identity_number_(Sweden) and they can't get a pid because they don't have a job | 15:21 |
| zebbiz_pi | Everything here is bound to that number | 15:22 |
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| urs | what? Even I have a swedish personal number, and I have neither lived nor worked in sweden. | 15:28 |
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| zebbiz_pi | urs: Finland? | 15:37 |
| urs | Well, I'm german, but I live in Finland. I just needed a swedish number for some science business with KTH, so I simply applied for one and got it immediately. | 15:38 |
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| r0kk3rz | must be the swedes trying to take over again :) | 15:38 |
| zebbiz_pi | urs: That's most likely a co-ordination number | 15:39 |
| zebbiz_pi | People who have no Swedish personal identity number can receive a co-ordination number (Swedish: samordningsnummer) instead. It is issued by the Tax Agency at the request of a public agency. It is used for contact between a person and an agency which would otherwise require the use of a personal identity number, for example for people staying less than a year in the country or for Swedish citizens who have never been residents of Sweden. | 15:39 |
| urs | ah, that might be. | 15:39 |
| zebbiz_pi | r0kk3rz: Yeah, but this time we won't invade russia until we have the rest of the world | 15:40 |
| r0kk3rz | zebbiz_pi: probably a good move | 15:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | https://together.jolla.com/question/145432/announcement-upcoming-sailfish-os-developer-trainings-in-russia-october-2016/ | 15:48 |
| r0kk3rz | i wonder how many they'll get along to those things | 15:48 |
| Stskeeps | surprisingily well visited | 15:50 |
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| pdanek | r0kk3rz: no passport doesn't suffice here | 16:05 |
| pdanek | I went to all major mobile operators here in Sweden, all of them require Swedish ID / citizenship | 16:06 |
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| Mikaela | Swedes don't care about tourism or internationality so much? If you are still talking about getting prepaid SIM? | 16:18 |
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| FireFly | Hmm, I don't really have any idea.. | 16:45 |
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| FireFly | But yeah, I've read too that it's surprisingly tricky to do just about anything without a personal number/similar | 16:47 |
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| pdanek | Mikaela: I'm talking about contracts, just 30 day contract | 19:17 |
| pdanek | Prepaid sims are fine, but they are completely useless in Sweden. | 19:18 |
| pdanek | 50 gigabytes of data on 30day contract is for 250 krona, while 12 gigabytes on prepaid is for 400 krona | 19:18 |
| pdanek | and 12 is maximum, if I want more, I have to pay 400+400+400 | 19:18 |
| pdanek | and my mobile data usage per month is around 40GB | 19:18 |
| ShadowJK_ | hm | 19:18 |
| pdanek | so prepaid is not an option for me in Sweden | 19:18 |
| ShadowJK_ | I wonder if TeliaSonera in Finland has prepaids with free nordic roaming | 19:19 |
| pdanek | I have free roaming in Sweden with Three UK | 19:19 |
| pdanek | but roaming usually doesn't support 4G/LTE | 19:19 |
| pdanek | inly 3G | 19:19 |
| ShadowJK_ | I had SIM from Sonera in Finland to get interwebs in Sweden and Norway, and it worked on 4G too | 19:20 |
| ShadowJK_ | oh wait, prepaids usually don't do roaming at all | 19:21 |
| ShadowJK_ | are you moving to sweden for a longer time? | 19:21 |
| r0kk3rz | 40gb a month? thats a lot of youtube | 19:22 |
| ShadowJK_ | I have an ipcamera to keep track of what the puppy is doing | 19:23 |
| ShadowJK_ | The App for it navigates through nat and firewalls, but eats gigabytes per hour even when not showing anything :) | 19:24 |
| ShadowJK_ | It's rather impressive how much data it can burn, more than just constant video stream | 19:24 |
| pdanek | ShadowJK_: I plan to be in Sweden 6 months | 19:25 |
| pdanek | r0kk3rz: usually a lot of HD youtube and skype calls | 19:25 |
| pdanek | 30-40G is just phone usage | 19:26 |
| pdanek | if I do tethering it would be more of course, but at home I have wifi | 19:26 |
| kimmoli | i considered my 10-20G a heavy use.. but not then | 19:34 |
| pdanek | Is Sailfish OS having same speed of development now as in the beginning? | 19:38 |
| pdanek | or is it still impacted by the financial issues by not having enough people? | 19:39 |
| kimmoli | yes | 19:40 |
| zebbiz_pi | pdanek: Can you get a temp id? | 19:41 |
| zebbiz_pi | People who have no Swedish personal identity number can receive a co-ordination number (Swedish: samordningsnummer) instead. It is issued by | 19:41 |
| zebbiz_pi | the Tax Agency at the request of a public agency. It is used for contact | 19:41 |
| zebbiz_pi | between a person and an agency which would otherwise require the use of a | 19:42 |
| zebbiz_pi | personal identity number, for example for people staying less than a year in | 19:42 |
| zebbiz_pi | the country or for Swedish citizens who have never been residents of Sweden. | 19:42 |
| zebbiz_pi | It is structured along the same lines, but with the day in the date of birth | 19:42 |
| zebbiz_pi | advanced by 60 (giving a number between 61 and 91). | 19:42 |
| zebbiz_pi | Oh, shit | 19:42 |
| zebbiz_pi | sorry | 19:42 |
| zebbiz_pi | but yeah, you should be able to get one of those | 19:43 |
| pdanek | hmm | 19:49 |
| pdanek | I will need to look into this then | 19:49 |
| pdanek | thanks | 19:49 |
| zebbiz_pi | pdanek: https://www.skatteverket.se/servicelankar/otherlanguages/inenglish/individualsandemployees/movingtosweden.4.7be5268414bea064694c40c.html | 19:54 |
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| pdanek | zebbiz_pi: thank you | 19:59 |
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| Milo- | darn it. jtablet is not starting up after fully charging it | 22:51 |
| Milo- | well, luckily recovery boot worked | 22:55 |
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| Milo- | 15 minutes later and the stubborn device is refusing to see my wifi network. lovely | 23:09 |
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