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| TMavica | my fd received Jolla C | 02:19 |
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| ruskie | http://www.gizmag.com/moto-z-hands-on-review/44359/ <-- so in other words... a toh? | 07:46 |
| Yaniel | that seems to be literally what it is | 07:47 |
| Nicd- | someone add a comment | 07:48 |
| Acce | fast! | 07:48 |
| r0kk3rz | i wonder what the interface is | 07:48 |
| Acce | At least the other halfs provided actually seem to have some functionality from start | 07:50 |
| r0kk3rz | http://developer.motorola.com/buy/ | 07:50 |
| Acce | So, they took the good idea and seem to be doing it right | 07:50 |
| Yaniel | unfortunately that doesn't help jolla nor sailfish atm | 07:51 |
| Nicd- | is that phone any good? | 07:51 |
| Nicd- | looks like it is very relevant to my interests | 07:52 |
| r0kk3rz | wow, all the interfaces http://developer.motorola.com/explore/system-architecture | 07:52 |
| Acce | the stuff they have ready really looks nice.. | 07:53 |
| r0kk3rz | Nicd-: i dont think its released yet, but the specs seem good if you dont mind having a 5.5" phone | 07:53 |
| Nicd- | oh it's so big | 07:53 |
| Acce | damn the size maniacs | 07:53 |
| Acce | even the 5" of Jolla C feels too big | 07:53 |
| Nicd- | "does not include a headphone jack" ಠ_ಠ | 07:54 |
| r0kk3rz | super dac toh! | 07:54 |
| LarstiQ | Yaniel: even so, good ideas deserve to proliferate | 07:54 |
| Nicd- | I don't care about the dac | 07:55 |
| lpotter | just shows that Jolla was on the right track with TOH | 07:55 |
| Nicd- | stop making stuff so thin a headphone jack doesn't fit | 07:55 |
| Yaniel | I can't wait for all the exploits | 07:55 |
| Yaniel | LarstiQ, sure | 07:55 |
| r0kk3rz | lpotter: yeah its a shame that jolla didnt have a hardware partner willing to run with it | 07:56 |
| r0kk3rz | + could create something like this, rather than being hamstrung by i2c only | 07:57 |
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| Nicd- | they really messed up the whole TOH thing | 07:57 |
| Yaniel | well, it's a shame they lost their original hw partner | 07:57 |
| r0kk3rz | heh, its a project Ara implementation | 07:58 |
| Nicd- | hopefully someone makes a hardware keyboard for it | 07:59 |
| Nicd- | if so, my choice of phone is clear | 07:59 |
| Yaniel | so you want a 6.5" phone? | 08:00 |
| Nicd- | I already forgot it was that big :D the size would be the problem then. | 08:01 |
| Nicd- | dunno how big 5.5" is off hand | 08:01 |
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| Yaniel | too big to use with one hand | 08:01 |
| r0kk3rz | ... so use two? | 08:01 |
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| Acce | phone that needs two hands all the time is bit clumsy | 08:04 |
| Yaniel | not to mention one that doesn't fit into my pocket | 08:05 |
| Acce | between 4" and 4.5" should be fine | 08:06 |
| Yaniel | +1 | 08:06 |
| Acce | but I guess most people value good looks and beauty over practicality, thus big screens | 08:06 |
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| LarstiQ | Nicd-: 5.5 is oneplus one, which I find a really nice size | 08:07 |
| Yaniel | for me the iphone se has pretty much the ideal form factor | 08:07 |
| LarstiQ | Acce: being able to actually read stuff | 08:07 |
| Nicd- | guess I need to ask around to test someone's 5.5 phone | 08:07 |
| Yaniel | but apparently nobody is buying them anyway so why bother making something usable at that size | 08:07 |
| Acce | LarstiQ: I've got Jolla Tablet for books :) smaller screen is fine for well designed news apps and websites | 08:08 |
| Nicd- | I value that the phone actually works (Jolla doesn't) and a HW keyboard would be really really nice. but let's see | 08:08 |
| LarstiQ | Acce: tablet is just too much hassle for me reading on the go | 08:08 |
| LarstiQ | Acce: or when wrangling my kid | 08:08 |
| Acce | LarstiQ: well, to each their own then | 08:09 |
| Acce | just sad to be in the minority | 08:09 |
| r0kk3rz | it depends on what you use your phone for, big screen is nice for reading and browsing and typing | 08:09 |
| Acce | of small screen likers | 08:09 |
| r0kk3rz | most people i see with samsungs use two hands to type | 08:09 |
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| Nicd- | hmm, if I make a backup and I _only_ include Messages, Phone and Notes, do you think I can restore it after a factory reset? | 08:12 |
| r0kk3rz | but i got out my old android with 4" screen, and it did seem pretty nice... | 08:12 |
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| Nicd- | I want to factory reset but I want to keep my messages, notes and call history | 08:13 |
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| Nicd- | (I'm hoping factory reset will fix my contact and calendar issues) | 08:14 |
| Nicd- | does anyone know? | 08:16 |
| TMavica | 3 of my friends already pickup their JollaC, but I not... | 08:17 |
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| r0kk3rz | i havent even got an email about it yet... | 08:20 |
| LarstiQ | hold your horses | 08:21 |
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| r0kk3rz | LarstiQ: you guys are running out of july :P | 08:21 |
| LarstiQ | r0kk3rz: we've shipped a fair bit, working on the notification emails | 08:22 |
| TMavica | Maybe Cyberport too far for the postman .. | 08:22 |
| LarstiQ | TMavica: you'll have to wait a bit longer | 08:22 |
| TMavica | Why.. | 08:22 |
| TMavica | Amanda got too... | 08:22 |
| LarstiQ | TMavica: because yours wasn't in the first batch shipped | 08:22 |
| TMavica | How come | 08:22 |
| TMavica | I ordered in first batch | 08:23 |
| r0kk3rz | i should've just gone to .fi | 08:23 |
| LarstiQ | TMavica: it requires effort and money to get this done | 08:23 |
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| TMavica | All of friend got it except me, very sad | 08:24 |
| LarstiQ | TMavica: we're doing our best to get it to you in July | 08:24 |
| Dotti_ | oh, they are being shipped already? | 08:24 |
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| TMavica | LarstiQ: I very sad | 08:25 |
| r0kk3rz | TMavica: you'll just have to wallow in your mountain of phones until it arrives | 08:25 |
| TMavica | The most important is all my HongKongers got it except mine, it is very... | 08:26 |
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| TMavica | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/e7O02ntD/IMG-20160715-WA0008.jpg | 08:27 |
| TMavica | Amanda is .... | 08:27 |
| TMavica | Keep send me pic | 08:27 |
| TMavica | Fuxk her | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica: on the other hand, people are actually getting a jolla product for once | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:29 |
| r0kk3rz | \o/ | 08:30 |
| Nicd- | what are the contents of Messages/blobs/commhistory-tool_groups.dump | 08:30 |
| TMavica | I helped them, they all picked, except mine, they are laughing at me | 08:30 |
| Nicd- | that is what the backup saves, how do I read it? | 08:30 |
| LarstiQ | TMavica: don't worry, you'll get yours | 08:30 |
| TMavica | Wasting my whole holiday today...i go street now | 08:30 |
| TMavica | waited whole day ready to go Cyberport | 08:31 |
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| LarstiQ | TMavica: how about this, I'll tell you when we've shipped your order (besides the shipping notification), and then you don't have to waste more time? | 08:32 |
| TMavica | No need. I dont wait | 08:34 |
| TMavica | Just wait she call me | 08:35 |
| TMavica | Because my 3 fd got the device in morning, so I am keep waiting until now | 08:35 |
| TMavica | Nevermind, forget it, maybe I unluck | 08:36 |
| TMavica | Just I think all my fd got it, why I not? So i keep wait until now | 08:37 |
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| TMavica | Device in Hk, ship to hk is local shipping, ship to other country is oversea shipping | 08:39 |
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| Nicd- | ok, time to factory reset | 08:52 |
| Nicd- | uptime record: 60 days 21 hours 25 minutes | 08:52 |
| phlixi | maybe try rebot first? | 08:53 |
| phlixi | :D | 08:53 |
| Nicd- | reboot? I have tried many times before | 08:53 |
| the_mgt | hm, so the turing phone is being delivered, but is not waterproof... | 08:53 |
| phlixi | oh, i thought your current uptime is ... | 08:53 |
| the_mgt | Ingvix: it also does not include a bt headset | 08:53 |
| r0kk3rz | the_mgt: didnt we know this already? | 08:54 |
| Nicd- | phlixi: it is my current uptime but the phone has been non-working for a long time. or rather, the contact and calendar system | 08:54 |
| r0kk3rz | its going to be a dolled up standard OEM design... | 08:54 |
| Tofe | the_mgt: so it will resist being run over by a car, but only if the wheels are dry :p | 08:55 |
| phlixi | well, if i had an uptime of 60 days, i would definitly try a reboot before factory resetting | 08:55 |
| Nicd- | I'm not placing much hope on the factory reset either since I have done that before too | 08:57 |
| * Tofe feels like he's the only person here to *not* have ever done a reset of his device. | 08:58 | |
| the_mgt | r0kk3rz: dunno, got an email today, notifying me about that. people seem to get a free update to a water proof snapdragen 820 version later on | 08:59 |
| r0kk3rz | the_mgt: yes they're sending you something else before they send you the real Turing Phone | 09:02 |
| r0kk3rz | ... if it ever gets made | 09:02 |
| the_mgt | I wonder what happens to the old phones on excahnge? | 09:03 |
| the_mgt | do they just replace the board? I guess that is more expensive than building a whole new device | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | the_mgt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wsjroVlu8 | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | maybe | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:03 |
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| Nicd- | phlixi: neither calendar nor contact sync work after reboot | 09:04 |
| Nicd- | in fact the calendar just showed my wife's events a minute ago and now no longer shows them | 09:05 |
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| Nicd- | inserting an event takes a minute for it to appear and it's not synced | 09:07 |
| r0kk3rz | woo shipping notification \o/ | 09:14 |
| Armadillo | Jolla Shop: Shipping confirmation for order #5000140XX | 09:16 |
| Armadillo | :D | 09:16 |
| Renault | first batch? | 09:17 |
| Armadillo | yes | 09:18 |
| Nicd- | errrr | 09:19 |
| Nicd- | backing up my files, I managed to create two directories on the sd card, both called "bak" | 09:19 |
| Nicd- | but they have the same inode | 09:20 |
| Nicd- | ll prints it twice | 09:20 |
| Yaniel | then it's just a hardlink? | 09:21 |
| Nicd- | with the same name in the same folder? | 09:21 |
| Nicd- | I only used mkdir | 09:21 |
| Yaniel | mkdir shouldn't allow that | 09:22 |
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| Nicd- | ok, time to reset | 09:59 |
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| Nicd- | oh yeah 1.0.5.16, so nostalgic | 10:27 |
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| gan | hi | 13:42 |
| gan | everyone | 13:43 |
| gan | http://www.ebay.in/itm/Intex-Aqua-Fish-4G-LTE-with-Qualcomm-Snapdragon-5-2GB-RAM-16-GB-8MP-/282098603976?hash=item41ae6317c8 | 13:43 |
| gan | is this true? | 13:43 |
| gan | http://fitnhit.com/news/intex-aqua-fish-affordable-smartphone-is-now-available-to-buy-via-ebay-india/82867/ | 13:43 |
| LarstiQ | gan: I doubt that | 13:45 |
| LarstiQ | gan: ebay has never come up as a distribution method, and now it is suddenly exclusive? | 13:45 |
| Nicd- | "Key Features: Unspecified quad-core CPU" :D | 13:45 |
| Nicd- | "we don't know what's in it, we're just selling it" | 13:46 |
| gan | lol | 13:49 |
| gan | man its too tempting | 13:49 |
| gan | as my jolla is bricked now | 13:49 |
| gan | whats with the news article | 13:49 |
| gan | ?? | 13:49 |
| gan | is it a scam | 13:49 |
| gan | ? | 13:49 |
| urs | no hw keyboard -> not a smartphone imho. Sorry. | 13:50 |
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| r0kk3rz | i thought it was supposed to be a snapdeal exclusive | 13:51 |
| Nicd- | urs: then I guess there are no smartphones on the market | 13:52 |
| r0kk3rz | Nicd-: not many anyway | 13:54 |
| gan | then N900 was the last smart phone | 13:55 |
| gan | :-P | 13:55 |
| r0kk3rz | *BB Priv | 13:55 |
| gan | i just tweeted to Intex India about this link to confirm | 13:55 |
| tiwake | that smells | 13:57 |
| tiwake | the latest article I could dig up said not releasing until september | 13:57 |
| gan | can you share that link tiwake | 13:57 |
| tiwake | oh hmm | 13:59 |
| tiwake | nevermind XD | 14:00 |
| urs | Nicd-: indeed, and I keep complaining about the fact to manufacturers, to no avail. | 14:00 |
| tiwake | gan: it was a year old article :-x | 14:01 |
| gan | which one | 14:02 |
| gan | the one u dug up? | 14:02 |
| tiwake | http://news.softpedia.com/news/intex-aqua-fish-officially-introduced-as-world-s-first-sailfish-2-0-powered-smartphone-487035.shtml | 14:03 |
| tiwake | like I said, a day shy of a year old XD | 14:04 |
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| EYEa_ | Jolla )01!@ | 14:44 |
| EYEa_ | )0h | 14:44 |
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| EYEa_ | Jolla 2 | 15:10 |
| EYEa_ | anyone | 15:10 |
| tbr | what would that be? a new company? | 15:12 |
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| r0kk3rz | Jolla 2: Marc Returns! | 15:17 |
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| tbr | "The Android empire strikes back" | 15:19 |
| EYEa_ | Jolla phone | 15:20 |
| EYEa_ | 2 | 15:20 |
| EYEa_ | Jolla 2 | 15:20 |
| r0kk3rz | Jolla C is Jolla 2 | 15:21 |
| EYEa_ | nice | 15:22 |
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| tbr | I'd argue that there is no Jolla 2 and never will be. | 15:26 |
| tbr | C is just a developer device, for which the real product is the aquafish | 15:27 |
| EYEa_ | Jolla phone is aging | 15:27 |
| EYEa_ | 3 year | 15:28 |
| EYEa_ | or more | 15:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | it still holds up though | 15:31 |
| Yaniel | If the USB port holds up... | 15:32 |
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| EYEa | Jolla )01!@ | 16:43 |
| EYEa | )0h | 16:43 |
| EYEa | if I got a penny for ever time I said Jolla )0!1@ I would be +++$$$ | 16:45 |
| EYEa | Regards to Coderus | 16:46 |
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| phlixi | maybe 2-3$... | 17:59 |
| phlixi | ...actually not that much :D | 17:59 |
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| kimmoli | 32 pennies | 18:02 |
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| phlixi | :) | 18:28 |
| phlixi | i was generous, considering missspelled occasions and didnt bother to actually grep the logs :D | 18:28 |
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| Tofe | Ah, if only SFOS could run on http://xkcd.com/1707/ ... or could it ? | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | Tofe: isn't that basically the turing phone? | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:53 |
| kimmoli | spacex impact protection :) | 18:54 |
| Tofe | Stskeeps: I have actually thinking the same | 18:54 |
| Tofe | was* | 18:54 |
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| pp | turing-complete :D | 19:16 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | wings \o/ | 19:55 |
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