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| r0kk3rz | we get a cloud backup option in 2.0.2? interesting | 08:51 |
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| Nicd- | to where? | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | /dev/null? :D | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:53 |
| Nicd- | considering it's Jolla, that doesn't sound too far fetched | 08:53 |
| Yaniel | context? | 08:55 |
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| r0kk3rz | not sure 'to where' i was hoping someone with the Jolla C might jump in | 09:01 |
| r0kk3rz | i didnt think Jolla wanted to get into the service providing business | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | not a jolla service | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:02 |
| r0kk3rz | so partnering with some existing cloud provider, cool | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | you need to partner in this day and age? :P | 09:02 |
| Yaniel | how about being able to do a "cloud backup" to my NAS | 09:02 |
| pp | younited :D oh wait | 09:04 |
| kimmoli | onedrive and dropbox (?) | 09:08 |
| tbr | rsync ftw! | 09:09 |
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| r0kk3rz | emails backup straight to NSA-Cloud-Storage | 09:09 |
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| Stskeeps | r0kk3rz: now if nsa was using ipfs we could all benefit | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:12 |
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| kimmoli | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/buteo-sync-plugins-social/blob/master/rpm/sociald.spec#L424 | 09:15 |
| kimmoli | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/buteo-sync-plugins-social/tree/master/src/dropbox/dropbox-backup | 09:18 |
| kimmoli | just make your own sociald-rsync-backup plugin? | 09:18 |
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| citylight2 | r0kk3rz: hi there I found the kulpit to my missing sound was the pulse audio suspend module | 09:46 |
| r0kk3rz | ie. not waking back up when it should? | 09:47 |
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| citylight2 | yep | 09:50 |
| citylight2 | how to debug this issue? | 09:51 |
| r0kk3rz | probably log a mer bug about it | 09:54 |
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| citylight2 | where to report a mer ug | 09:58 |
| citylight2 | where to report a mer bug | 09:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | citylight2: https://bugs.merproject.org/ | 10:30 |
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| Ingvix | is there no way to use android app requiring android version higher than 4.1 on Jolla? | 13:41 |
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| Ingvix | right now it's saying problem parsing package when trying to install apk | 13:43 |
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| the_mgt | Ingvix: that is the usual and tremendously stupid default android message, when you try that | 13:51 |
| the_mgt | happens on real android hardware too | 13:51 |
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| Ingvix | I know but that doesn't really help me | 13:58 |
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| Raim | Ingvix: AlienDalvik on Jolla 1 is only compatible with Android 4.1 | 14:09 |
| Ingvix | a shame | 14:12 |
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| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps was teasing people on twitter about an update to 4.4 | 14:19 |
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| zbeasnyy | Ingvix: are you trying to install pokemon go? :P | 14:28 |
| * tbr would not recommend to play that under aliendalvik, unless you like your account suspended for cheating | 14:29 | |
| urs | I'm sure they'll release a native SailfishOS version! | 14:30 |
| zbeasnyy | doesn't work anyway | 14:30 |
| zbeasnyy | (according to TJC) | 14:30 |
| Tofe | tbr: the game is too easy for this community? | 14:30 |
| urs | If only we all hope for it strongly enough! | 14:30 |
| tbr | hrhrhr | 14:31 |
| urs | Tofe: it has reached a level where it is no longer relevant as a game per se, but as a cultural phenomenon | 14:31 |
| Tofe | I wonder how long that one will last | 14:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | it will be much more interesting once they put in battles and quests | 14:42 |
| r0kk3rz | which was hinted at in the teaser months ago | 14:42 |
| r0kk3rz | rather than the current 'collect pokemangz, train them in the gym' | 14:42 |
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| Tofe | Nothing a wrench can't fix | 14:51 |
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| Ingvix | göfö läks heti panemisen jälkeen | 17:29 |
| Ingvix | jätti kun nallin kalliolle | 17:29 |
| locusf | now thats a wrong window | 17:30 |
| Ingvix | yes | 17:30 |
| Ingvix | very | 17:31 |
| Stskeeps | google translate claims the word 'fisting' is involved | 17:38 |
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| Nicd- | it's wrong | 17:39 |
| Nicd- | paneminen = fucking | 17:40 |
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| Ingvix | fisting was not included in the act | 17:42 |
| kimmoli | ok this os | 17:44 |
| kimmoli | is #jollamobile.. | 17:44 |
| kimmoli | check | 17:44 |
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| balta | Stskeeps Hey are you there? Do you remember my bricked Jolla, we talked Monday about it | 18:13 |
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| pdanek | Anyone received Turing phone here? | 18:22 |
| pdanek | They started shipping. | 18:22 |
| balta | Can anybody tell me what battery voltage the jolla phone needs at minimum? | 18:22 |
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| Nicd- | they are actually shipping? | 18:25 |
| Nicd- | I'm surprisde | 18:25 |
| Nicd- | surprised* | 18:25 |
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| HtheB | Nicd-: what? | 18:30 |
| HtheB | Jolla C? | 18:30 |
| HtheB | Turing phone | 18:30 |
| HtheB | ? | 18:30 |
| pdanek | Turing Phone | 18:30 |
| pdanek | Jolla C is not shipping yet right? | 18:30 |
| Armadillo | correct | 18:30 |
| Nicd- | turing | 18:30 |
| Armadillo | https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/753198553628020736 | 18:30 |
| Armadillo | @ pdanek | 18:30 |
| Stskeeps | balta: how's it going with it? | 18:31 |
| balta | there's nothing new sadly :( Still just the yellow LED after hours of charging | 18:32 |
| balta | Now I've got a Multimeter and tested the voltage of my battery, it's just 3.0V... Could that be the problem? | 18:33 |
| Nicd- | I'm wondering where the Intex phone is | 18:35 |
| Nicd- | is it out yet? | 18:35 |
| pdanek | no sign off Intex, I expect November 2016 | 18:37 |
| pdanek | of* | 18:37 |
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| mal- | balta: my jolla phone battery shows 3.96 V | 18:40 |
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| Armadillo | 3,0V is extremely low | 18:41 |
| mal- | yes | 18:41 |
| Armadillo | balta is the led blinking yellow? | 18:43 |
| balta | So this could be the problem? | 18:43 |
| balta | It is flashing one time yellow if I plug in the charger | 18:43 |
| Armadillo | Jolla blinks yellow if battery is out of device but connected to usb charger | 18:43 |
| HtheB | when will they ship the C anyway? | 18:45 |
| HtheB | If some people already have them, why need to wait for shipping? | 18:45 |
| Armadillo | have a look at the twitter link above | 18:45 |
| Armadillo | I think only the lucky 50 guys of the community event have their JollaCs | 18:46 |
| Armadillo | the rest is at hongkong | 18:46 |
| HtheB | Armadillo: yeah just checked the link indeed | 18:46 |
| HtheB | but how come? Why 50 already there and the rest isn't? | 18:46 |
| HtheB | it's not fair :( | 18:46 |
| HtheB | I need to send my phone to repair | 18:46 |
| HtheB | but I cant, no replacement :( | 18:46 |
| Armadillo | because they got it at the community event | 18:47 |
| balta | I'm also waiting for my Jolla C... and my Jolla 1 is not powering up... :( | 18:47 |
| HtheB | balta: ouch | 18:47 |
| mal- | balta: do you happen to know anyone near you with a jolla 1 so you could try it with their battery? | 18:48 |
| balta | Sadly no :( | 18:48 |
| balta | I have to go, will be back in about one hour, if anybody has any idea I will read the logs :) | 18:51 |
| kimmoli | balta: you need something like this http://m.ebay.com/itm/Mobile-Universal-Battery-Charger-LCD-Indicator-Screen-For-Cell-Phones-1-USB-Port-/271305860542 | 18:51 |
| balta | kommoli thanks, I will search for a one shipping to germany :) | 18:52 |
| balta | do they work with any battery? | 18:52 |
| Armadillo | balta where are you from? | 18:53 |
| balta | germany, near Hannover | 18:53 |
| Armadillo | hm ok :x | 18:54 |
| balta | are you from germany too? At the moment I'm in Duisburg :D | 18:56 |
| Armadillo | yes, but from Munich ;) | 18:56 |
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| Stskeeps | balta: what does lsusb say if you pull usb, then battery, hold down volume down, put in usb cable to computer? | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | it should show jolla logo | 18:58 |
| Armadillo | is it possible to boot into system from fastboot mode? | 18:59 |
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| mal- | Stskeeps: I just tested fastboot mode out of curiosity but it doesn't seem to work, display says fastboot mode but fastboot devices doesn't show it, not really a problem since my phone works fine but still strange | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | mal-: you need a -i | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | hence lsusb | 19:03 |
| mal- | Stskeeps: ok | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | -i 0x2931 | 19:04 |
| mal- | Stskeeps: why does it need that, my ported devices do not need that? | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | it's a custom usb id | 19:08 |
| mal- | ok | 19:09 |
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| pdanek | https://twitter.com/Eerzan1/status/753263652925497344 | 19:15 |
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| balta | Stskeeps if I do that it's flashing the yellow LED one time, but no Jolla logo, and lsusb is not listing the device, and there is no output in dmesg | 19:57 |
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| Stskeeps | balta: that's not good | 20:05 |
| balta | so it cannot be just the battery? :( | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | balta: volume down w/ battery out; and then putting in usb shows 'fastboot mode' and jolla logo on my significantly beaten jolla | 20:06 |
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| balta | so my jolla seems to be more beaten :'( | 20:08 |
| balta | that would be my first phone to be dead before being replaced... and that by just a few days if the Jolla C will be delivered soon :( | 20:10 |
| balta | Do you have any idea I could do besides sending the device to Jolla? | 20:11 |
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| Ingvix | turing seemed promising until "Non-removable battery" | 21:11 |
| ahjolinna | there is always something to bitch about | 21:12 |
| Ingvix | Does someone know how much it'll cost? | 21:12 |
| Yaniel | 1k€ | 21:12 |
| Ingvix | that's quite a lot | 21:13 |
| Yaniel | aye | 21:13 |
| ahjolinna | there is like 3 versions, 16gb, 64gb and 128gb | 21:13 |
| Yaniel | (no idea hhow accurate, I heard that a rather long time ago) | 21:13 |
| Ingvix | what other options would there be in the near future? | 21:13 |
| Ingvix | oh | 21:13 |
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| Yaniel | fairphone | 21:14 |
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| ahjolinna | apprently it will have the snapdragon 820 instead of 801 | 21:14 |
| Ingvix | what's the difference | 21:14 |
| Raim | Ingvix: well, the removable battery in Jolla 1 did not help that much either ;-) | 21:15 |
| ahjolinna | http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/snapdragon-820-vs-snapdragon-810 | 21:16 |
| ahjolinna | damn wrong | 21:16 |
| Ingvix | well yea, but it it more easily replaced if gone broken | 21:16 |
| Yaniel | that's the joke | 21:16 |
| Ingvix | well, yes | 21:16 |
| Yaniel | you can't replace something that you don't have replacements for | 21:17 |
| Ingvix | True | 21:17 |
| Lieke | well there are the htc desire batteries that supposedly work | 21:18 |
| Ingvix | I guess it would be a good call to buy some other sfos phone | 21:18 |
| Lieke | i'm still waiting for the fairphone 2.. | 21:18 |
| Ingvix | to be released with sfos or to be shipped? | 21:19 |
| Ingvix | I only see android fairphone in their shop right now | 21:20 |
| Lieke | for the official release with sfos | 21:20 |
| Ingvix | okay, yea | 21:20 |
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| the_mgt | the non-replacebale batteries in iphones are replaceable too, did that once for an iphone4. wasn't hard at all. I guess it got a bit harder | 21:22 |
| Yaniel | the weird screws that they are using nowadays certainly don't make it easier | 21:22 |
| Ingvix | what ever makes more money | 21:23 |
| the_mgt | Yaniel: you get complete replacement kids, with every tool included | 21:23 |
| the_mgt | I also got this 52 bit set from ifixit for problems like that | 21:24 |
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| Ingvix | does fairphone have much of extra euros in its price for being ethical and all? | 21:28 |
| Lieke | https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Fairphone2-Cost-Breakdown.pdf | 21:32 |
| r0kk3rz | Ingvix: mostly because its a low volume bespoke device | 21:32 |
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| Ingvix | hmm, okay. Are there other sfos phones coming up, other than turing and fairphone? | 21:36 |
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| Yaniel | aqua fish | 21:37 |
| Yaniel | but I'm not at all sure you'll be able to buy it outside of india | 21:37 |
| r0kk3rz | Ingvix: at least theres a choice :P | 21:38 |
| Ingvix | yes | 21:39 |
| r0kk3rz | for a long time it was jphone or jphone or jphone | 21:39 |
| the_mgt | there was this https://blog.jolla.com/sailfish-community-device-program-jolla-c-second-batch/ | 21:39 |
| Ingvix | and who know, maybe more of Jolla C will come around | 21:39 |
| Ingvix | knows* | 21:39 |
| Ingvix | at some point | 21:39 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah dont hold your breath | 21:39 |
| Ingvix | tbr, why would one get banned in pokemon go for playing it with aliendalvik? | 21:42 |
| tbr | Ingvix: because they banned everyone who played ingress with a Jolla phone | 21:42 |
| Lieke | also happened with ingress | 21:42 |
| Lieke | *with a friend playing ingress | 21:43 |
| Ingvix | oh, I wonder why | 21:43 |
| r0kk3rz | probably due to the way it handles GPS | 21:43 |
| Lieke | guess it's a cheat detection thing or something | 21:43 |
| Ingvix | well, good thing I got an android tablet | 21:44 |
| tbr | doesn't look like a standard android device → must be a cheater | 21:44 |
| tbr | some knowledgeable people tried to reach niantic and reason with them... | 21:45 |
| tbr | went nowhere | 21:45 |
| Lieke | good thing i don't play games that involve being outside | 21:45 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah what kind of crazy idea is that anyway | 21:45 |
| Lieke | right? | 21:46 |
| Ingvix | I actually just installed ingress to my jolla | 21:46 |
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| Ingvix | guess I better uninstall it | 21:46 |
| Ingvix | looking at the turing phone's specs, who the hell needs 128gb storage on a phone? | 21:49 |
| the_mgt | everyone that cant just put in a sdcard | 21:49 |
| the_mgt | the camera takes 18mp pics and hd movies take an awful lot of space | 21:50 |
| the_mgt | plus music. some people have huge music libraries | 21:50 |
| Ingvix | the camera is 13 mp but fair enough | 21:50 |
| Ingvix | yea, guess I'm not much of media hoarder | 21:51 |
| the_mgt | 16gb on a mobile device is not much today | 21:51 |
| the_mgt | especially with never-sure-how-much-it-is-filled btrfs | 21:51 |
| Ingvix | wasn't there some sfos phone in africa too? Or was it one these above mentioned? | 21:56 |
| Yaniel | yeah there was some news about one | 21:58 |
| Yaniel | can't remember the name though | 21:58 |
| sakustar | Ingvix: android app caches are wild, have 4 apps that are over 1 gb :( | 21:59 |
| Ingvix | tough stuff | 22:01 |
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| Lieke | the african partner is mi-fone | 22:04 |
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| Ingvix | I'd like to see what sort of device is this "Turing Gaming Bluetooth Earphone" | 22:11 |
| Ingvix | is it just for one ear or for both so you could use it for music too | 22:12 |
| Yaniel | I expect it to be this kind of thing: http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/17A08/production/_90367769_e91a7f50-36c4-4697-8863-aac8d8ea7ca6.jpg | 22:14 |
| Ingvix | nice | 22:14 |
| Ingvix | I guess it's for both as I found this from some article http://www.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Turing-Pack.jpg | 22:14 |
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