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| gan | hi everyone | 13:30 |
| gan | hi lainwir3d | 13:31 |
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| Nicd- | hi gan | 13:33 |
| gan | hi Nicd- | 13:33 |
| gan | my jolla is dead | 13:34 |
| gan | :-( | 13:34 |
| gan | i put it in rice bucket as advised for two days....it just doesnt start | 13:34 |
| gan | feels like hell to use android samsung phone | 13:35 |
| gan | :-((((((( | 13:35 |
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| kimmoli | höh | 13:36 |
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| gan | what to do | 13:44 |
| gan | jolla experts | 13:44 |
| gan | please help me :-( | 13:45 |
| Yaniel | send to care | 13:45 |
| r0kk3rz | gan: you've done a good job of then :) | 13:45 |
| gan | thats the only option? even i wrote to care few days back related to android app not starting - and they said they are not operating until August. | 13:46 |
| gan | good job in breaking ? | 13:46 |
| r0kk3rz | if its proper bricked, then they're the only ones with the tools to sort it out | 13:46 |
| gan | i didn't do anything to break it | 13:47 |
| gan | how do we confirm it | 13:47 |
| gan | thats it bricked | 13:47 |
| r0kk3rz | can you get it to do anything? | 13:47 |
| the_mgt | if it is functionally identical to a brick, then it is bricked... | 13:47 |
| Yaniel | well if you can't start it even into recovery mode despite it having battery / being connected to charger then it's by definition a brick | 13:47 |
| gan | lol @ the_mgt | 13:48 |
| gan | not funny :-P | 13:48 |
| r0kk3rz | gan: well this is where the term 'bricked' comes from after all | 13:49 |
| gan | aahhhh thats it then | 13:49 |
| gan | damn!!!!! | 13:49 |
| gan | maybe my N900 is bricked too | 13:49 |
| gan | that doesnt start either | 13:49 |
| the_mgt | I'd recommend an update of the user | 13:50 |
| the_mgt | :-P | 13:50 |
| tbr | layer 8 problem detected | 13:50 |
| tbr | btw: AFAIU you can fastboot a recovery over usb, but it's not for the faint hearted | 13:50 |
| mal- | I was just wondering can that device even go to fastboot mode | 13:51 |
| tbr | that would need to be checked | 13:51 |
| mal- | yes, if not then it's really bad | 13:52 |
| r0kk3rz | gan: did you unlock the bootloader? | 13:52 |
| gan | no i didnt unlock the bootloader | 13:54 |
| gan | it doesnt go into fastboot mode | 13:54 |
| gan | either | 13:54 |
| gan | u press volume down and power button simultaneously right? | 13:55 |
| r0kk3rz | no, voldown + insert usb i think | 13:56 |
| mal- | yes, voldown + connect to a pc with usb cable | 13:57 |
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| gan | with battery? | 13:59 |
| gan | hmmm i will try | 13:59 |
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| gan | too bad i got a reply from jolla care | 15:05 |
| gan | they said they need a physical address from EU with phone and email and they can help if i can ship from that location | 15:05 |
| gan | I am from India :-( | 15:06 |
| gan | this really sucks! | 15:06 |
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| r0kk3rz | gan: did you buy from jolla or snapdeal? | 15:10 |
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| gan | jolla shop | 15:11 |
| r0kk3rz | ah | 15:11 |
| gan | i got it shipped to a friend in UK and he brought it when he came to india | 15:11 |
| gan | now they don't accept UK too | 15:11 |
| r0kk3rz | why not? | 15:12 |
| lainwir3d | brexit | 15:12 |
| lainwir3d | lol | 15:12 |
| gan | not part of EU | 15:12 |
| gan | they say | 15:12 |
| gan | :( | 15:12 |
| r0kk3rz | lol, yes it is | 15:12 |
| gan | what the hell | 15:12 |
| Renault | UK it is in EU | 15:12 |
| gan | why cant they just take the device if i ship from india | 15:12 |
| Renault | for the moment, or for ever :) | 15:12 |
| balta | Hi, is anybody here and can help? It seems I've bricked my Jolla very bad... :( | 15:13 |
| balta | The device was stuck with a red blinking led, after half an hour I removed the battery and now it seems to be dead. Nothing happens when pressing the power button, the revery mode is not working either | 15:13 |
| FireFly | It's still a member of the EU for now | 15:13 |
| Yaniel | are all sbj1's bricking today? | 15:13 |
| balta | If I connect it to my Linux PC it is detected as 05c6:9008 Qualcomm, Inc. Gobi Wireless Modem (QDL mode) | 15:13 |
| balta | I already found this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96886 but there is no solution :( | 15:14 |
| * Yaniel is 250km away from his so can't check | 15:14 | |
| gan | balta | 15:14 |
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| gan | even my device is bricked | 15:14 |
| gan | :( | 15:14 |
| gan | i am trying hard for past few days | 15:14 |
| gan | where are you from? | 15:14 |
| balta | germany... why? | 15:14 |
| gan | ohh atleast you have a chance mate | 15:15 |
| gan | you can send it to jolla care | 15:15 |
| Yaniel | (then again it was still alive yesterday) | 15:15 |
| gan | they replied to me saying they need address in EU, so they can service and send it back to that address. I am from India | 15:15 |
| r0kk3rz | gan: you should be able to send it to your friend in the uk, and then to jolla | 15:15 |
| gan | they are not accepting UK address now | 15:15 |
| gan | they need address in EU | 15:15 |
| gan | it seems | 15:15 |
| r0kk3rz | the uk is in the eu | 15:16 |
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| balta | sadly it is out of warranty... and I'm waiting for my Jolla C so I do not know if my Jolla would be back before my Jolla C :D | 15:16 |
| gan | 15:16 | |
| gan | 15:16 | |
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| gan | jolla says UK is not | 15:17 |
| balta | and if I read the thread on tmo it seems just to be a softare problem, so I should be able to fix it myself If I know how | 15:17 |
| r0kk3rz | gan: then the person you're talking to needs their head examined | 15:17 |
| gan | i just need my jolla examined :-( | 15:17 |
| gan | ohh if its out of warranty , they wont repair? | 15:18 |
| gan | my device is over 2 yrs old | 15:18 |
| r0kk3rz | they will, you'll have to pay | 15:18 |
| gan | oh ok. | 15:18 |
| balta | They would repair, but you would have to pay | 15:18 |
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| gan | balta, why dont u consider sending to jolla care | 15:18 |
| gan | ? | 15:18 |
| balta | As I've written i would have to pay, and I'm awaiting my Jolla C (hopefully this month?) so it would be possible my Jolla would be back after my Jolla C :D | 15:19 |
| balta | Does anybody know when the Jolla C will be delivered? :) | 15:22 |
| r0kk3rz | LarstiQ: can you thump whoever in the Care team doesnt think the UK is in the EU | 15:22 |
| balta | Or... can anybody help with my "Qualcomm, Inc. Gobi Wireless Modem (QDL mode)" problem? | 15:23 |
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| Stskeeps | balta: take out usb cable, then battery, let it rest for a while, then plug battery back in, power on, nothing else | 15:24 |
| gan | oh lucky you ...i missed to sign up for jolla c | 15:25 |
| gan | thinking intex aquafish will be launched soon in india | 15:25 |
| gan | damn....i am stuck now | 15:25 |
| balta | Stskeeps: I will try, thanks... How long is a while? :) | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | gan: what city are you in? | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | balta: ~15 minutes | 15:25 |
| gan | india, chennai | 15:25 |
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| balta | Stskeeps: the device is still not powering up... and it is not detected at all as USB device | 15:56 |
| balta | at least it is not a Quallcom modem anymore... but now it is nothing :( | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | balta: put it in the provided charger with a proper usb cable for a while | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | balta: what did you do before it went all pear-shaped? | 16:00 |
| balta | I do not have the provided charger here, but another 2A charger, will try if it is loading | 16:01 |
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| balta | I was in an area with very very poor network coverage, no WLAN, just the lowest possible value for 2G network. It was freezing a lot every few seconds, especially while using WhatsApp (Android)... | 16:03 |
| balta | One moment it started to show a black screen with the LED flashing red, like it is restarting the home screen | 16:04 |
| balta | But this flashing was not stopping, and after half an hour I removed the battery | 16:04 |
| balta | After reinserting it didn't show up anything | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | balta: ok, let's see what charger helps | 16:05 |
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| balta | The display and the LED is not showing that it is charging at all, could it still be charging? | 16:06 |
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| gan | exact problem as mine | 16:08 |
| gan | balta | 16:08 |
| gan | btw just got update from jolla, they say shipping from india is costly for me and them and they wont do it | 16:08 |
| gan | :( | 16:08 |
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| Stskeeps | balta: give it some time, if that fails, gently clean the battery contacts somehow | 16:11 |
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| balta | Stskeeps: after letting it charge some time it is still not powering up, but now if I connect the charger or the PC the LED is flashing yellow one time and it is showing as 05c6:f006 Qualcomm, Inc. in lsusb | 16:52 |
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| balta | interestingly the yellow LED shows up even if there is no battery inserted at all, but then the PC is not detecting anything | 16:54 |
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| tbr | qualcomm means it's comming up in fastboot IIRC | 16:56 |
| balta | It's a huge step forwards from my QDL mode in the beginning isn't it? | 16:58 |
| tbr | have you cleaned the battery contacts? | 16:58 |
| balta | yes as far as I could... if I just could be at home and check the battery using my multimeter... | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | balta: try get a fastboot devices? | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | (android-tools-fastboot under ubuntu) | 17:01 |
| balta | perhaps the battery is just dead... The last weeks I was happy if it lasted the day... :( | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | well, odd it doesn't come up in without-battery mode | 17:01 |
| balta | I'm using openSUSE, but I have fastboot installed, will try ;) | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | volume down w/o battery and insert usb should get it into fastboot mode | 17:02 |
| * tbr still needs to order one of these: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/B0PA2100-2000mAh-Battery-For-HTC-Desire-310-310W-Replacement-Batterie-Batterij-Bateria/32364005734.html | 17:02 | |
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| Stskeeps | balta: anyway, give it longer time on charger, seems like 05c6:f006 is a 'flat battery' mode | 17:04 |
| tbr | if it thinks the battery is very low on charge, then it will only trickle charge. 20mA-50mA (no idea hat a QC PMIC exactly does) | 17:05 |
| balta | fastboot devices is showing nothing :( I will let it charge more time... how long are you available today? :) | 17:05 |
| Stskeeps | balta: let it charge for a few hours and poke me again in the morning. i usually go to sleep in about 3 hours | 17:06 |
| balta | ok then thanks a lot, I will be online tomorrow again :) | 17:06 |
| balta | btw... if I will not get it back to live... any news about the Jolla C delivery? Do I need to buy some cheap android device in the mean time? ;) | 17:07 |
| r0kk3rz | "sorting out delivery issues" was the last update | 17:08 |
| r0kk3rz | but if everyones on holidays.... | 17:08 |
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| balta | mmh that meens it will be delivered "soon"... :( | 17:10 |
| r0kk3rz | with jolla everything is SoonTM | 17:11 |
| kimmoli | jolla should really get from SOON to NOW mode... | 17:11 |
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| tbr | I thought it was downgraded from soon™ to maybe™ | 17:15 |
| AL13N | :) | 17:17 |
| kimmoli | if you missed the may delivery windowd, you may wait for next may. | 17:17 |
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| balta | but even if it's one year late... I still love my Jolla Tablet, it's a great device and was worth waiting | 17:19 |
| urs | "I'll just buy the second batch when it comes out then." | 17:21 |
| sakustar | who has only 1 phone anyway | 17:21 |
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| r0kk3rz | balta: you dont find it too heavy? | 17:26 |
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| balta | yes it is a bit heavy, but I got used to it very fast and now I find some other tablets too light :D | 17:32 |
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| balta | It's just like SailfishOS... in the beginning the usage feels quite complex, but after a short time using an Android phone feels like using some old device | 17:34 |
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| Snoras | What's the default fstab options on the Jolla phone? | 17:36 |
| kimmoli | balta: yep, it is hard to go back, even never actually used Android | 17:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | balta: i got an android tab as my jtab replacement, its pretty good actually | 17:39 |
| balta | I have to use Android and even iOS for my work sometimes (developing web applications and app backends) and both feel clumsy for me as Sailfish user | 17:40 |
| balta | Personally I had never used Android too, coming from Symbian (808 PureView) directly to Jolla | 17:41 |
| Helle | Android on tablets is okayish, on phones it's painful | 17:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | the additions to the sonytab are rather nice, most of its stock android ui | 17:48 |
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| HtheB | does anyone know why WhatsApp sometimes does not see my phone contacts? | 17:59 |
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| HtheB | ?? | 18:02 |
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| coderus | HtheB: sometimes? | 18:04 |
| HtheB | coderus: yes, I really dont know why, but sometimes I just get my contacts | 18:04 |
| HtheB | and sometimes, they're just gone | 18:05 |
| coderus | HtheB: same or new? | 18:05 |
| HtheB | same | 18:05 |
| coderus | sounds weird :) | 18:05 |
| HtheB | it's like the app cannot detect the contacts on my phone | 18:05 |
| HtheB | I can only talk to people who has talked to me before (and if I didn't delete the chat) | 18:06 |
| HtheB | it shows up as a number only | 18:06 |
| HtheB | like if that number is not saved on my phone | 18:06 |
| coderus | lol | 18:06 |
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| HtheB | any idea what I can do? Like editing a file to see what might be wrong? | 18:08 |
| HtheB | (android contacts file?) | 18:08 |
| HtheB | the database | 18:12 |
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| coderus | i dont think android is using separate contact database | 18:26 |
| coderus | but it can use own database as well | 18:26 |
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| Ingvix | how much did Jolla C cost when it was available at jolla shop | 19:33 |
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| Dotti_ | 169€ | 19:35 |
| Ingvix | that's quite cheap | 19:35 |
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| sakustar | htheb android phone wa does the same | 22:18 |
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