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| cehteh | sometimes i wonder why anyone has mobile/phone reception in our cellar, but my jolla not :D | 07:48 |
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| zebbiz_pi | I've noticed that it's a bit weak too | 07:50 |
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| sledges | PSA: https://together.jolla.com/question/137367/official-announcement-adding-new-community-languages-estonian-lithuanian-serbian-tartar-and-turkish/ | 10:36 |
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| FireFly | Speaking of which... I've been meaning to ask: is there a way to debug reception issues (in my case, with 4G in particular)? some kind of log files or anything? | 11:19 |
| pp | data getting stuck? (I see that more recently on my phone) | 11:20 |
| FireFly | Because at my parents' summer house a Galaxy S4 with same mobile provider & plan as I have gets great 4G reception and I get shoddy sometimes-working 2G on a Jolla | 11:20 |
| FireFly | But 4G works elsewhere (read: in central Stockholm, at least) | 11:20 |
| pp | could be a difference in supported frequencies | 11:21 |
| FireFly | Hmm | 11:21 |
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| FireFly | Could be, I suppose? both are in Sweden | 11:21 |
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| pp | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe | 11:24 |
| pp | middle of nowhere -> likely to be low frequency | 11:24 |
| FireFly | mmm... Telenor's coverage map on their site only shows "4G good coverage", "3G good coverage" etc :< | 11:25 |
| FireFly | doesn't separate different frequencies | 11:25 |
| FireFly | "middle of nowhere" is a pretty fair description though | 11:25 |
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| zebbiz_pi | Don't know if this is still valid https://thejollablog.wordpress.com/2014/02/01/enable-lte-connectivity-on-your-jolla-phone-with-3g4g-radio-switcher/ | 11:26 |
| pp | tho I'd guess that LTE 450 (really middle of nowhere tech) isn't supported by many standard phones | 11:27 |
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| FireFly | Comparing https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203394337-Jolla-phone-Which-cellular-frequency-bands-are-supported- with the bands Telenor uses according to that list (800, 900, 1800, 2600) I guess it might be a 900-band area :< | 11:28 |
| FireFly | Annoying | 11:28 |
| Helle | LTE on low frequencies is badly supported in general on phones, Telenor iirc from a press release seems to be doing it in part for dongles more then phones | 11:29 |
| FireFly | Ah | 11:30 |
| Helle | basically wanting to market it as semi-stationary broadband | 11:30 |
| Helle | which makes sense knowing Norwegian geography :) | 11:31 |
| FireFly | Hehe | 11:31 |
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| zebbiz_pi | https://www.frequencycheck.com/carrier-compatibility/J0ah1Y/jolla-phone-jp-1301/telenor-sweden | 11:33 |
| FireFly | Oh huh. Handy site | 11:35 |
| zebbiz_pi | yeah | 11:36 |
| zebbiz_pi | Apparently telia has the fewest frequencies | 11:36 |
| pp | here we get maps by frequency https://kartat.dna.fi/Peittokartta/ | 11:39 |
| FireFly | Ah, that's much nicer | 11:39 |
| zebbiz_pi | Nice | 11:39 |
| zebbiz_pi | I wish we had that for sweden | 11:39 |
| pp | tho LTE800 means "4g might work, badly", very often | 11:40 |
| FireFly | Eh, I'd be happy with anything >2G-that-works-with-the-right-weather-conditions :p | 11:40 |
| Helle | 800-1900Mhz log periodic antenna :P | 11:42 |
| Helle | I actually used such a thing for internet access at an exotic location | 11:44 |
| FireFly | I wonder if I could get a 4G dongle supporting the right frequency and just use it with my phone SIM, or if it'll refuse to be used in a dongle somehow (and require a separate plan) | 11:46 |
| FireFly | I don't really care about incoming calls/SMSes when I'm there anyway, so | 11:47 |
| Helle | FireFly: most cellphone companies don't really care that much | 11:47 |
| r0kk3rz | this is why its nice to use X over IP stuff | 11:48 |
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| pp | for in the middle of nowhere places investigating good ones is worth it | 11:53 |
| pp | e.g. sometimes you need an external, directional antenna and you get ~= 100Mbps | 11:53 |
| pp | friend has that, lives close to the airport which has antennas pointing to the inside of it -> crap connectivity | 11:54 |
| FireFly | Hmm | 11:54 |
| pp | but! there's a tower quite far away and the land is very flat, direct antenna at it -> full speed | 11:55 |
| pp | needed to call the operator to figure out that, but they were very helpful | 11:56 |
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| attah | What's the deal with the screen protector for the C? Is the glass not strengthened at all? | 16:40 |
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| attah | Screen protectors rank just over actual snake-oil in my book... :S | 16:43 |
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| r0kk3rz | attah: not so much, they're just a sacrifical layer | 16:52 |
| r0kk3rz | the problem is people dont tend to replace them, and so have a scratched up screen protector instead | 16:52 |
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| r0kk3rz | or worse, one with masssive bubbles in it | 16:52 |
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| attah | that too... but *usually* the glass is an order of magnitude stronger than the cover | 16:54 |
| r0kk3rz | of course it is, its glass | 16:55 |
| attah | and let's face it no-one replaces the cover every other month.. | 16:55 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah which is why i stopped using one | 16:56 |
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| attah | Even my N9s look like they'd go another couple of years | 16:58 |
| attah | Anyway.. some backstory and specs on the glass would be nice.. so we can know how to take care of it properly | 16:59 |
| Raim | attah: as others said on TMO it is no hardened glass and scratches easily without the protector | 16:59 |
| attah | Raim: i'll go have a look there then.. just checked tjc. Thanks! | 17:00 |
| Raim | attah: https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1508625&postcount=491 | 17:01 |
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| Raim | and as there is no warranty or service, we should be very careful with the device... | 17:02 |
| attah | Raim: awesome, thanks! The search is borked for me (captcha not loading) | 17:02 |
| attah | Sure.. but i have a perfect track record so far | 17:02 |
| r0kk3rz | if it lasts a year then thats cool | 17:04 |
| r0kk3rz | hopefully by then something else will be on offer | 17:05 |
| attah | I'll be getting anything and everything SFOS.. so hopefully :) | 17:05 |
| Raim | official support for Fairphone 2 maybe, https://twitter.com/Fairphone/status/748156649404248064 | 17:06 |
| attah | Especially that! | 17:07 |
| r0kk3rz | the fp2 is pretty cool | 17:07 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe a little bricky for my liking, but still cool | 17:07 |
| r0kk3rz | taking the screen off with zero tools required almost got a standing ovavtion @ FOSDEM | 17:08 |
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| Wnt | I 3D printed a bicycle handlebar mount for the Jolla C :) http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1651301 | 21:54 |
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| phlixi | Wnt dou you take photos of your front wheel while you drive? | 22:34 |
| phlixi | ...or does otherwise not fit? | 22:34 |
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| Wnt | phlixi: the phone serves a dual purpose: map + light ;) | 22:43 |
| phlixi | :-) | 22:43 |
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