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toxipanyone managed to root Jolla C alien dalvik?09:31
coderusfor what you want to root aliendalvik?09:32
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toxipcoderus: well one thing led to another so I wanted to enable signature spoofing for microG and then found out you need an xpose module or needle for that09:46
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toxipthe former requiring root09:46
toxipI'd also like to have root for some applications such as f.lux09:46
coderusxposed not working on aliendalvik, sorry09:47
toxipcoderus: seems like your superuser app from openrepos isn't working on Jolla C09:47
coderusf.lux also cant work on aliendalvik, sorry09:47
toxipcoderus: it works09:47
toxiptried on my Jolla109:47
coderusworks as screen dim, not real display driver09:47
toxipcoderus: nope, it works just as it should09:48
toxipchanging white point09:48
coderusimpossibru :D need to try myself09:48
coderusworks for whole system or only android?09:48
toxipfor the whole system09:48
coderushm09:48
toxipyeah, it's magic to me :D09:49
coderuswell, you need to wait 2-3 weeks before i receive mice jollaC..09:49
coderusmine*09:49
toxip:)09:49
toxipthe su binary installs properly but changing permissions to allow has no effect... it just denies everything09:50
toxipI guess I don't necessarily need root for alien dalvik since I can access everything from sailfish side09:51
toxipbut I have no idea how to add signature spoofing for alien dalvik09:52
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SfietKonstantinWhehe09:52
SfietKonstantinWsignature spoofing09:52
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toxipwhat's so funny SfietKonstantinW?09:53
SfietKonstantinWtoxip: just something fun to do09:53
SfietKonstantinWthat's all :)09:53
toxipanyway, getting microG working would be nice09:53
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toxipmaybe if someone who knows more than me about these things could make an app on openrepos for it09:54
toxipI'll try to study this a little and see where it goes09:58
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coderuswhat is signature spoofing btw?10:33
coderusi saw one people in forums who just copied jar from dalvik, did magic on pc or so, and copied it back to device, dont remember exactly if he did that signature spoofing hack or no10:34
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Hellecoderus: the signature checking is (relatively) garbage and can be disabled10:44
Helleit's not well designed cryptographically10:44
Hellebut I bet it was just disabled10:45
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the_mgthm, can't you just run the linux version of f.lux? why take the detour with aliendalvik?11:16
r0kk3rzthe_mgt: the linux version wants x1111:16
the_mgtaah11:16
tbrport it? :)11:17
r0kk3rzand it cannot work with wayland, because wayland doesnt want to screw with the buffers11:17
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tbrjftr: linux version is 'redshift'11:17
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the_mgtwho thought that giving your screen a hint of bloody pee colour would be such rocket science11:18
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the_mgtios only enables it for 64bit architectures, iirc. because the 32bit ones can't handle it11:18
r0kk3rzperhaps the android one does something with hwcomposer which wayland sends its buffers to11:21
IngvixDoes anyone know a well working android video player? Most seem to not work too well on Jolla11:25
Stskeepsr0kk3rz: it really ought to be a lcd feature11:25
Stskeeps:P11:25
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r0kk3rzStskeeps: and indeed many desktop monitors have this feature, but not as a programmable API11:26
the_mgthaha, yes, add that 4 button menu to every smartphone, for settings of the display. i had those things11:27
the_mgtespecially when trying to get two identical monitors to have identical color/brightness...11:28
Yanielnow if the compositor had a tint feature...11:29
the_mgtI'd love a black&white mode11:30
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IngvixDoes Gallery app have support for subtitles?11:47
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toxipIngvix: nope but LLS mediaplayer has11:57
toxipGallery video player is kinda crude and not very good for any kind of movie watching etc.11:58
Milo-"11:58
Milo-"Please provide us with a valid phone number in order for us to be able to ship your Jolla C device ASAP!" - am I supposed to respond to that email? -_-11:58
r0kk3rzJaymzz: ^^11:59
toxipMilo: probably you should login to jolla store and edit your details on the order11:59
Milo-can't edit there11:59
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Milo-I'm fairly sure I gave that number when I made the purchase12:00
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toxipwell then reply unless the email came from noreply address in which case you should ask jaymzz12:01
r0kk3rzor open a ticket on zendesk12:01
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Milo-yeah. I replied to the email12:03
Milo-the email was a bit vague on the details :p12:03
r0kk3rzhopefully this means mine will ship too :)12:06
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Ingvixtoxip, though the system doesn't recognise it as a video player so that android apps could stream to it and such12:12
Ingvixbut I guess that would need some developing to get it work with android apps though12:13
toxipIngvix: can't you use the mimer to make it as the default video player?12:16
toxipor is it a problem with the android sharing?12:16
toxipmaybe it should be added into the sharing options on the android side12:17
Ingvixtoxip, when I go to the settings of a android app there's a option to choose default player and lls player doesn't show there at all12:18
Ingvixprobably if it would simply use the default apps then if could use it12:19
Ingvixit*12:19
toxipIngvix: it's because LLS doesn't have the intent for it... they recently added sharing options for Jolla native apps on the android side but the same should be done for 3rd party applications for it to work12:27
toxiphow android application sharing works is that the applications tell which types of actions they can do and then other applications can forward those actions to the applications12:28
toxipwould be nice if this could be defined somewhere in the application configs and it could add those into alien dalvik when you install it. Again this is one of those features that takes resources away from actual Sailfish OS development12:30
toxipmaybe Jolla guys could tell how they did it for the native apps12:32
IngvixYeah, well gladly VLC Player seems to work decently for an android video player12:33
r0kk3rzyou should be able to watch dbus to see what it does12:35
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JaymzzMilo- please reply to that email. I sent it to you and I need the phone number. Thanks!12:39
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Milo-Jaymzz cheers. I tend to not trust emails saying "we need more information in order to complete your order". Even though in this case the email and its headers seemed legit13:10
JaymzzMilo- Yeah sorry, it sounded dodgy a bit in my head too before sending but it was really urgent so I was like "Just gimme that number, no time to explain" :D13:11
Milo-:P13:12
jaywalkohh jolla c's on the way? I never got invited to winland but I am eager to get my hands on mine too!13:14
Jaymzzjaywalk: You should get notified when it's on its way :) "Soon TM"13:15
locusfwinland13:15
Milo-Jaymzz someone called "Mr. James" recently sent me an email where he offered 3000-5000 euros a month to do telecommuting.13:17
Milo-the email was written in bad finnish and the only job description was 'telecommuting' :P plus it came to an email that isn't in use at all.13:17
Milo-Have to watch out for the James of the Inert nets :p13:18
JaymzzMilo- oh my god xD Not sure when did I sent that one :D hahah13:18
LarstiQjaywalk: not quite yet, some more bumps to smooth before shipping can commence13:19
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jaywalkJaymzz, LarstiQ: thanks for the info, my life isn't depending on it. just looking forward to it.:)13:29
phlixi_ohmmm13:36
phlixi_oif i had not been asked for phone, does that mean its not needed for my delivery, or that my delivery is later?13:36
phlixi_o:D13:36
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LarstiQphlixi_o: or you already provided correct info to start with, or you were sent the email but haven't seen it, or..13:40
LarstiQphlixi_o: you can check your order in the store to be sure13:41
phlixi_oah, ok, didnt know that^^13:41
phlixi_othanks for the hint13:41
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phlixi_oit just says "paid"13:48
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phlixi_owell, i am confident i will get something in a month or two :)13:48
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r0kk3rzLarstiQ: good luck smoothing bumps!13:49
LarstiQphlixi_o: yes, but do you have a valid phone number? :P13:49
LarstiQr0kk3rz: thanks13:49
phlixi_owell13:49
phlixi_oits valid for a human13:50
LarstiQthat should be fine then13:50
phlixi_obut i remember know, that it was not possible to enter a valid number13:50
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LarstiQ"0" or "815" is not fine13:50
phlixi_othus the string i entered was something like ^49[0-9]{10}$13:51
phlixi_oa human will recognize that it is a valid phone number, while it isnt13:52
LarstiQphlixi_o: missing a + or 00 you mean?13:53
phlixi_oyes13:53
LarstiQphlixi_o: hmm. Other people do have those, so wonder what was going on for you13:54
LarstiQphlixi_o: anyway, the purpose is to have something to call when the courier is attempting delivery13:54
LarstiQand our shipping company refuses to ship without it, hence Jaymzz's quest13:55
phlixi_othey always call if i order something from jolla13:55
phlixi_o^^13:55
kimmoliwinland winland winland the country where i want to be pony trecking or camping...13:59
kimmolihttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=baHsoEAAMZU14:01
Milo-LarstiQ are you still using DHL in finland?14:01
Milo-because that "courier can call customer" failed miserably with the jolla tablet.14:01
LarstiQMilo-: not sure if we even have control over that14:03
Milo-:P14:03
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Milo-What DHL did there was more or less pathetic. Called me when it reached customs. A day or two later "attempted" to deliver the package. I was at home at the time of this "attempted delivery", but the door or phone never rang. Called them later to re-arrange the delivery. They claimed they didn't have my phone number. So I gave it to them and insisted that they call me before delivery. The package arrive14:05
Milo-d to my work place without the phone ever ringing. DHL is ...14:06
Milo-... so excellent -_-14:06
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AcceMilo-: I have had exactly same experience with DHL14:24
Acceyou'd think it would be everyone's benefit to call the receiver so didn't have to try and drive around for the same package..14:24
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LarstiQeven with Posti they don't ring the doorbell but post a note "you weren't there" while you are..14:26
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r0kk3rzwith online shipping, people care more about price than service14:27
Accewell for the price you pay for DHL you'd expect some service14:28
Milo-LarstiQ true, but DHL didn't even inform me about the attempted delivery. I noticed it by following the tracking code.14:28
r0kk3rzrecently there were some UKPost turkeys trying to post me a package. apparently they tried 3 times but never left a note to say they were trying...14:29
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Hartzihttps://together.jolla.com/question/122636/bug-android-messaging-whatsapp-messages-arrive-late/16:28
Hartzianyone else here having this problem?16:28
Hartzi--> makes whatsapp totallu not usable when using wlan16:28
entilHartzi: I don't use whatsapp that much but signal behaves so that at least when switching between wifi/3g it might get stuck, and restarting android services and signal makes it work again16:29
entilI have no idea but I could imagine there's something in aliendalvik that doesn't appreciate switching connections16:29
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entilthe missus might send me messages that don't arrive, we haven't been able to identify on which side the issue actually lies, because most of her signal messaging is with me anyway16:30
Hartzior data just freezes while wlan connections is on16:31
entilit should switch over to wlan, I dunno really16:31
Hartziyeah it does, but after few minutes whatsapp loses connection16:37
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Lieke_whisperfish is a pretty nice signal client16:41
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entilLieke_: I'm gonna make the move as soon as I get my fp2 going18:20
entilLieke_: ironically that's pending on sfdroid more than anything, because there is no whatsapp, but I'm not sure I want to put a ton of effort into renewing my keys and stuff because the android-based client essentially works18:21
coderusstill using whatsapp after it sold to facebook?18:24
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entiltoo many people are, big deal18:43
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coderusbut you have a choice18:49
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PaulePanterWhat does it mean, if the LED is blinking very quickly in kind of blueish light?19:40
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pdanekDaleks are close by.19:41
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PaulePanterNow the phone rebooted by itself. :(19:46
PaulePanterIs there a better Jolla phone out there?19:47
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PaulePanterThe current one really has too many issues and takes to much time. The display is partially broken, that I cannot touch in the middle.19:47
PaulePanterOpening an email takes a long time.19:47
PaulePanterI want to support free software.19:47
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r0kk3rzPaulePanter: no, jolla dont sell phones anymore, only hopes and dreams19:52
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SQUelcherr0kk3rz: every now and again, they sell some jolla c phones ;)19:52
r0kk3rzSQUelcher: i know, im waiting on mine ;)19:55
r0kk3rzbut i think there will be no more19:55
Oni^SQUelcher: that part of club  membership19:56
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PaulePanterWhat phone do you recommend as an alternative?20:15
PaulePanterUbuntu Meizu 5 Pro is sold out too.20:16
M4rtinKyou don't want Ubuntu Touch20:17
ln-you don't want Ubuntu20:18
M4rtinKSailfish OS even with all its shortcomings is about 100 years ahead of UT20:18
r0kk3rzM4rtinK: its slightly more available to buy though20:18
M4rtinKr0kk3rz: definitely20:19
M4rtinKbut they really have guts to try selling *that*20:19
M4rtinKsoftware wise20:19
r0kk3rzheh20:21
r0kk3rzbanking on brand power most likely20:21
r0kk3rzand shuttleworths bank account20:21
M4rtinKI have the Aquaris M10 tablet20:22
M4rtinKand it's really *bad*20:22
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M4rtinKbugs and missing functionality all around20:22
r0kk3rzbut, woooo, convergence20:23
M4rtinKthe apps store is a ghostown (even compared to Jolla Store) & the few apps that are there don't work very well20:23
M4rtinKand the overall design pretty damn cluttered and unintuitive, at least on the tablet from factor20:24
M4rtinKBTW, convergence20:24
M4rtinKthere is actually a lot of X apps preinstalled - gimp, xchat, normal firefox20:24
M4rtinKbut they are always there20:24
M4rtinKeven in normal mode20:25
M4rtinKthey don't look very well on the tablet screen20:25
M4rtinKand *input is broken*20:25
M4rtinKthe VKB does not show up if you click into input fields (they reportedly know about that at least and will fix it)20:25
M4rtinKnot a good first impression if you ask me20:25
lpotterwhat's missing in functionality on UT?20:28
M4rtinKquite a lot20:30
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M4rtinKlike being able to accept files over bluetooth20:30
M4rtinKor browse images from an inserted uSD card20:31
M4rtinKlike, really20:31
M4rtinKthe build in gallery ap indexes only internal storage20:31
M4rtinKand third party image viewers20:31
M4rtinKrun in container/sandbox20:31
M4rtinKand can't reach the card directly20:31
M4rtinKonly via a system provided "portal"20:32
M4rtinKand the portal can only select a single file at a time20:32
M4rtinK200+ photos on the uSD card - YAY ! :P20:32
M4rtinKalso only the app in foreground runs20:32
M4rtinKapps in background is hard-stopped20:33
M4rtinKreportedly you can request an exception from that (?)20:33
M4rtinKor manually disable that stupidity by unofficial means20:33
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lpotterbackgrounding is just a policy decision, not missing functionality20:36
lpotternot seeing the images on sd card is a bug20:37
lpotterthe bluetooth thing sounds like a bug too20:39
lpotterI can recall very similar bugs on jolla at one time or another. software is buggy20:41
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ramsesHD-how can I connect to my jolla from a Linux PC over USB, NOT SSHing the USB port?21:23
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mal-ramsesHD-: you mean in a file transfer mode?21:25
mal-or what do you mean?21:26
ramsesHD-mal-: correct. That's what I'm looking for. Normal mounting doesn't seem to work.21:26
mal-did you select the pc suite mode or what evet it was called?21:26
ramsesHD-yes. And now I run mtp-detect -> LIBMTP PANIC: could not inspect object property descriptions!21:27
mal-ramsesHD-: which linux distro do you have?21:27
mal-ramsesHD-: at least on my ubuntu the phone is mounted automatically21:27
ramsesHD-mal-: Debian jessie21:28
mal-strange, I would think it should work on that also21:28
ramsesHD-ok, mtp-detect works after a while, after repeating the above error 5 times and after repeating Error 2: PTP Layer error 02ff: get_all_metadata_fast(): could not get proplist of all objects.21:33
ramsesHD-Error 2: Error 02ff: PTP: I/O error 5 times. ;-)21:33
spiiroinramsesHD-: can you check out what version of libmtp you have? there have been some issues with ubuntu 16.04 too while 15.x works fine21:35
ramsesHD-sure, mompl21:35
ramsesHD-libmtp is 1.1.821:36
spiiroinramsesHD-: ok, I have 1.1.6 and that more or less "works". but something might have changed on the way to .8 and it might be just that the jolla side mtp stack is doing something incorrectly21:39
ramsesHD-spiiroin: indeed. mtp-connect gives the following error: Device 0 (VID=2931 and PID=0a07) is UNKNOWN.21:42
ramsesHD-Please report this VID/PID and the device model to the libmtp development team21:42
ramsesHD-ignoring libusb_claim_interface() = -6PTP_ERROR_IO: failed to open session, trying again after resetting USB interface21:42
ramsesHD-LIBMTP libusb: Attempt to reset device21:42
ramsesHD-Now, I'm waiting for the reset. ;-)21:42
spiiroinramsesHD-: is it usb2 or usb3 port you have it attached to? there have been some varying oddities between those too21:49
ramsesHD-USB221:49
spiirointhere is "src/music-players.h:  { "Jolla", 0x2931, "Jolla", 0x0a07, DEVICE_FLAG_NONE }," but that was added after 1.1.1121:52
ramsesHD-disconnected and re-connected it, now I get the same errors as with mtp-detect, waiting for what is to happen. ;-)21:52
spiirointhere is a bug report for ubuntu 16. that too seems to have something to do with object props. so probably something broke / was revealed broken with libmtp update21:55
spiirointhere might be something in udev rules that chooses between libmtp / libgphoto2 backends21:55
spiirointuning those so that gphoto2 gets selected might make things work21:56
spiiroin... or at least it might be interesting to know if it works / fails in some other ways21:57
spiiroinbtw, did you stop gvfs-mtp/gphoto2-volume-monitor before running mtp-detect?21:58
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ramsesHD-n21:59
ramsesHD-no21:59
spiiroinramsesHD-: "killall gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor" then try mtp-detect again - probably needs to be after fresh reconnect too?22:01
spiirointhere is also gphoto2 command line utility, iirc "gphoto2 --summary" does similar things as mtp-detect22:04
spiiroin.. no need to dig udev rules to see if it works any better than libmtp22:04
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ramsesHD-This is what happens after killall ...22:05
ramsesHD-Device 0 (VID=2931 and PID=0a07) is UNKNOWN.22:05
ramsesHD-Please report this VID/PID and the device model to the libmtp development team22:05
ramsesHD-PTP_ERROR_IO: failed to open session, trying again after resetting USB interface22:05
ramsesHD-LIBMTP libusb: Attempt to reset device22:05
ramsesHD-inep: usb_get_endpoint_status(): Kein passendes Gert gefunden22:05
ramsesHD-outep: usb_get_endpoint_status(): Kein passendes Gert gefunden22:05
ramsesHD-libusb_open() failed!: Kein passendes Gert gefunden22:05
ramsesHD-LIBMTP PANIC: Could not init USB on second attempt22:05
ramsesHD-No devices.22:05
ramsesHD-Kein passendes Gert gefunden = found no suitable device22:06
spiiroinand it does not change if you detac/re-attach the cable and then try again?22:08
ramsesHD-that was after detaching and re-attaching it. :-)22:08
spiiroindoh22:08
ramsesHD-yup :-)22:09
spiiroinand gphoto2, anything sensible from that?22:09
ramsesHD-gphoto2 says: unknown model, no digital camera found (translated from German)22:09
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ramsesHD-But the behaviour seems to be a bit random, now after detaching and reattaching USB, I do not get the errors again with mtp-connect. It stops with Please report this VID/PID and the device model to the libmtp development team and does nothing. ;-)22:11
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* spiiroin suspects the jolla side usb reset handling is broken -> does not recover until cable is pulled22:12
ramsesHD-that's completely correct.22:13
ramsesHD-looks very broken22:14
spiirointhe same happened earlier with windows hosts too. but after some other glitches/timeouts were fixed -> the reset attempts were not hit again-> stayed as it were22:15
ramsesHD-btw, I do not understand one thing. I just want to do a simple file transfer to my PC. scp via the WLAN IP is painstakingly slow. Then I tried scp via the USB IP and hoped it would be much faster - and detected that it uses WLAN as well. Why that?22:16
spiiroinit should go via usb, but ... dunno. network connectivity is just something I use ;-/22:19
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spiiroinsleep states might affect wlan. you could check if it is faster if you keep the display on22:20
ramsesHD-k22:21
ramsesHD-Ok, thanks for your help. Good night. :-)22:24
spiiroinsleep tight22:24
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