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| r0kk3rz | http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/06/oysters-sf-new-salfish-os-powered-smartphone.html | 07:36 |
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| r0kk3rz | oyster fish! | 07:36 |
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| r0kk3rz | ah, phone for the russian market, makes sense | 07:37 |
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| tadzik | weird to include those capacitive buttons | 07:41 |
| tadzik | I guess that's just a re-used android phone | 07:41 |
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| the_mgt | blue oyster phone? | 07:48 |
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| kimmoli | salad bar | 07:55 |
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| jubo2 | Hiya.. Loaned my phone to a friend and something happened to it that it doesn't recognize there is functional sim-card inserted. Any ideas what could have caused this | 11:28 |
| jubo2 | Phone does not seem physically harmed | 11:28 |
| Jope | there's a little sliver of metal in the sim holder that acts as the sim detect switch | 11:28 |
| Jope | so I'd blame that | 11:28 |
| jubo2 | Jope: thanks. I see it | 11:29 |
| jubo2 | it slides to the left and supposedly connects a circuit | 11:29 |
| jubo2 | or disconnects one | 11:30 |
| jubo2 | either one of those I assume | 11:30 |
| jubo2 | Jope: Any idea how to alleviate the situation | 11:30 |
| jubo2 | coz my other friend needs the phone and it ain't much fun without a functional sim-card reader/drive | 11:30 |
| jubo2 | Now downloading Björnträsket over WiFi btw | 11:31 |
| jubo2 | after that comes the 2.0 upgrade, yes? | 11:31 |
| jubo2 | I totally get that sometimes going straight to the latest version is no-go | 11:32 |
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| pp__ | it's somethingl like 4 updates from 1.0.0 to 2.0.1 | 11:32 |
| jubo2 | ait thänks for info pp__ | 11:33 |
| jubo2 | Damn some of these spammers are stupid.. Not even checking the expiry dates on domains and instead just forging some date | 11:33 |
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| neochapay | Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand sailgrande is so so work :) https://twitter.com/neochapay/status/740507791643815936 | 11:38 |
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| r0kk3rz | neochapay: woo \o/ | 11:38 |
| jubo2 | now installing Björnträsket | 11:39 |
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| jubo2 | Does anyone think there is a chance that the SW upgrades would fix the "sim-card not detected to be present"-situation | 11:39 |
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| pp__ | tried alcohol?-) | 11:40 |
| jubo2 | pp__: rubbing alcohol? | 11:40 |
| r0kk3rz | jubo2: i doubt it, but it wont hurt | 11:40 |
| Yaniel- | is that a pun | 11:40 |
| jubo2 | alcohol is a solvent and can be applied to remove grease and such shit, that is true | 11:40 |
| pp__ | cleaning contacts, I originally had to replace my sim card | 11:41 |
| jubo2 | We've tried many sims and the sims are fine | 11:41 |
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| jubo2 | now installing Sailfish2 | 12:41 |
| jubo2 | or updating to Sailfish2 | 12:41 |
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| jubo2 | So it seems the system responsible for detecting if there is sim card or not is broken | 12:42 |
| jubo2 | How much to change the unit to a functioning one? | 12:42 |
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| Tomo | hmm, wasn't bad sim card contacts a common issue that caused random reboots etc? | 12:47 |
| Tomo | and the common solution was carefully cleaning the contacts | 12:48 |
| r0kk3rz | Tomo: battery contacts | 12:48 |
| Tomo | oh | 12:48 |
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| Tomo | my bad :) | 12:48 |
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| entil | https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Foysters.ru%2Fproducts%2Fsmartphone%2Fsmartfon_oysters_sf%2F | 13:49 |
| entil | whee | 13:49 |
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| jubo2 | mmm.. | 13:56 |
| jubo2 | now downloading Saimaa on mah 100Mbit/s land line via WiFi | 13:56 |
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| jubo2 | Somebody's got a throttling on the update server bandwidth | 13:57 |
| jubo2 | coz 250MB doesn't usually load this slow | 13:57 |
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| mornfall | uhm, what's the command to install packages again? | 14:05 |
| mornfall | ha, pkcon... probably | 14:05 |
| mornfall | or no | 14:05 |
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| mornfall | how do I debug ssl errors on outgoing smtp? | 14:07 |
| mornfall | nothing in journal, apparently | 14:07 |
| mornfall | nothing in /var/log either | 14:07 |
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| Nicd- | mornfall: pkcon install or pkcon install-local | 14:08 |
| Nicd- | try journalctl -fa and see if any interesting output comes up when you try to send | 14:09 |
| Nicd- | preferably from a computer so you get longer scrollback and easier search | 14:09 |
| mornfall | error: send failed and sync completed with Errors!!!. [sic] | 14:09 |
| mornfall | yeah I am ssh'd in | 14:10 |
| mornfall | the UI just says 'problem' and that's about it | 14:11 |
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| mornfall | one possibility is that the CA bundle on sailfish does not include letsencrypt (which would be odd, though, wouldn't it?) | 14:14 |
| mornfall | firefox accepts the same cert just fine | 14:14 |
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| mornfall | oh indeed | 14:15 |
| mornfall | the ca bundle on sailfish is ... outdated, I guess | 14:15 |
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| mornfall | oh dear, oct 2015 | 14:16 |
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| sakustar | anyone need 2 car batteries before i haul em off? | 14:18 |
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| sakustar | extra power for jolla or what ever | 14:19 |
| sakustar | :D | 14:19 |
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| mornfall | Nicd-: ok, providing the full chain solved the problem (at least the sailfish browser told me what the error was) | 14:22 |
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| mornfall | now it's back to authentication failed :P | 14:22 |
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| mornfall | \o/ accpted authentication | 14:26 |
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| mornfall | so after a couple years I can finally send mail from my phone :P | 14:37 |
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| Nicd- | mornfall: providing the root CA in the chain is useless | 15:09 |
| Nicd- | but you should always provide all intermediates | 15:10 |
| mornfall | I just switched to the fullchain.pem letsencrypt generated instead of just cert.pem... maybe I should read the docs to see what is supposed to be what | 15:11 |
| mornfall | (what confused me is that it works without intermediaries on desktop, I guess) | 15:12 |
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| Nicd- | some browsers download intermediate certs from outside sources automatically | 15:15 |
| Nicd- | fullchain includes the intermediates but not the root (as it shouldn't) | 15:15 |
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| Nicd- | for example command line tools don't download intermediates usually, so without them the site will be broken for many use cases | 15:16 |
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| jubo2 | Even if the sim-card reader ain't working it is still a phone that has a black shell for consumer | 15:30 |
| jubo2 | so the consumer can 'sudo su' and proceed to break it | 15:31 |
| jubo2 | that ain't all fun.. then again .. it is fun | 15:31 |
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