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| gargaml | Hi | 13:38 |
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| jaywalk | oh hai! | 13:39 |
| gargaml | I have a problem with texting. Sometimes (especially when the message is length is greater than 160) I receive half of a message or nothing at all | 13:39 |
| gargaml | I've seen some people having similar issues but haven't found a solution yet | 13:40 |
| gargaml | is it still a known issue ? | 13:40 |
| jaywalk | hm, not to me, no. but hopefully someone in here knows more! could it be service provider related as well? | 13:46 |
| gargaml | I don't know, this happens only with one person (with whom I exchange much more texts than others) | 13:51 |
| gargaml | a few hundreds I'd say and there are some texts that are a mix of new and old texts (which seems unrelated to service provider (at least I hope)) | 13:52 |
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| eYAe | Jolla )01!@ | 14:04 |
| eYAe | )0h | 14:04 |
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| EyEA | Any news on a new Jolla | 14:05 |
| EyEA | send my Jolla for repair | 14:05 |
| EyEA | I mean i sent my Jolla for repair the other day | 14:06 |
| EyEA | Is NOKIA on its way back to the handy market | 14:08 |
| EyEA | with DROID as the system | 14:09 |
| EyEA | how do i format a 64GB mem card in Jolla@ | 14:13 |
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| phlixi_o | v | 14:21 |
| phlixi_o | Jolla )01!@ | 14:21 |
| phlixi_o | :D | 14:21 |
| r0kk3rz | EyEA: theres a UI in an upcoming update that allows you to format SD cards | 14:21 |
| r0kk3rz | for now it must be done via terminal | 14:22 |
| phlixi_o | do you mean more meta like "is it better to use ext4, btrfs or fat32?" or more like "whats the command to format an sd card in the jolla? | 14:22 |
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| EyEA | yes | 14:22 |
| EyEA | what are the coms | 14:22 |
| EyEA | commands | 14:22 |
| phlixi_o | there should be plenty examples on tjc, well , how exactly depends on what you want to do, this is one example: https://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/ | 14:23 |
| EyEA | is there a way to send photo pic direct to sd | 14:24 |
| EyEA | ok | 14:24 |
| r0kk3rz | EyEA: is linux, im sure you can google 100 tutorials very quickly | 14:24 |
| EyEA | fint tak tak | 14:24 |
| EyEA | fint | 14:24 |
| phlixi_o | i would try to do that in file browser, select the photo and navigate to sd card, i am not aware of such function in the camera or galery app | 14:24 |
| EyEA | right | 14:25 |
| kimmoli | you can save camera photos directly to sdcard | 14:25 |
| EyEA | right | 14:25 |
| kimmoli | by casting a xdg spell | 14:25 |
| phlixi_o | and the official thing (probaly not much helpful) https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201997993-What-kind-of-SD-cards-and-formats-are-supported- | 14:26 |
| kimmoli | xdg-user-dirs-update --set PICTURES /media/sd..well-path-to-your-sdcard | 14:26 |
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| EyEA | swell | 14:27 |
| phlixi_o | of, course if you take lots of pictures and want them all automatically saved on sd, then moving them manually is silly :-) | 14:27 |
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| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: cool | 14:27 |
| kimmoli | remember to check what it is now first | 14:28 |
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| kimmoli | and also --set VIDEOS | 14:29 |
| dr_gogeta86 | neet | 14:30 |
| dr_gogeta86 | why doesn't have a gui | 14:30 |
| dr_gogeta86 | something like move your sh*t to sd | 14:31 |
| dr_gogeta86 | especially on sbj is usefull to free some btrfs space | 14:31 |
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| phlixi_o | i am pretty sure same reason as for 123496314 other of those tiny things... | 14:55 |
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| phlixi_o | ...there are just SO MANY of those little things, its to much | 14:55 |
| phlixi_o | thus everything is just the bare minimum | 14:56 |
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| kimmoli | waiting for random-settings-plugin | 15:10 |
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| sobukus | Is there some trick to make mtpfs work with the Jolla phone? I remember that it worked some time ago, but now mtpfs 1.1 with libmtp-1.1.11 seems to crash on trying to list files after successful mount. | 15:52 |
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| sobukus | Do I have to open root access and use USB networking to be able to copy a video?! | 15:53 |
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| Stskeeps | mtp support on linux is so shit :) | 15:56 |
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| sobukus | Stskeeps: I tend to agree. But I wonder why … | 16:00 |
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| sobukus | It sucks having mobile Linux devices that cannot communicate with my other Linux devices. | 16:00 |
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| Lieke | your other linux devices don't have ssh? | 16:14 |
| the_mgt | sobukus: there is some kind of communication suite | 16:16 |
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| sobukus | Lieke: I do have SSH, but having to open up developer mode and root access on the phone doesn't feel right. | 17:04 |
| LarstiQ | sobukus: add an ssh key | 17:05 |
| Yaniel | you still don't need root access | 17:05 |
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| Yaniel | most things can be done as the unprivileged nemo user | 17:06 |
| sobukus | Yaniel: but isn't enabling of SSH tied to setting a password for root? | 17:06 |
| Yaniel | no | 17:06 |
| Yaniel | that's the password for nemo | 17:06 |
| Yaniel | in the developer settings | 17:06 |
| Yaniel | I don't know if root even has a password by default | 17:06 |
| sobukus | It says "password for ssh and root access" on my config dialogue. | 17:07 |
| Yaniel | root access via devel-su | 17:07 |
| Yaniel | which is like sudo | 17:07 |
| sobukus | Yeah … hm. Maybe I misremembered. | 17:08 |
| sobukus | I'll have to check if password login is really disabled for connections to ssh … | 17:09 |
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| sobukus | Hm. SSH over WLAN seems generally blocked. | 17:11 |
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| Tegu | SSH over WLAN does work but I tend to have issues with it. usually I have to shut down and reopen WLAN | 17:19 |
| Tegu | if someone happens to know a better way, please tell | 17:19 |
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| sobukus | Hm, well, I set up USB IP now … trying to make it accept the SSH key | 17:21 |
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| sobukus | Yaniel: There is no SSH connection accepted unless I set a password for it … and login also only uses password only, ignores my key. | 17:24 |
| * sobukus hunting sshd_config | 17:24 | |
| Yaniel | login with password once to copy the key over, then disable password logins in sshd config | 17:24 |
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| Yaniel | yeah it could be better | 17:24 |
| sobukus | Hm, but I guess I should first find out why my key is ignored. | 17:25 |
| sobukus | Ah, the paranoia again: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for file /home/nemo/.ssh/authorized_keys | 17:27 |
| sobukus | I don't see how that matters when the .ssh dir has 0700 mode … | 17:27 |
| sobukus | Hm, OK, so I can disable password access via SSH, so it's not that bad that there is one. | 17:29 |
| * sobukus sees /home/nemo/.vault/.git | 17:32 | |
| sobukus | Versioned backups using git? | 17:32 |
| Raim | yes | 17:36 |
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| pdanek | TMavica: ? | 21:06 |
| pdanek | !seen TMavica | 21:06 |
| merbot | pdanek: TMavica was last seen in #jollamobile 6 days, 7 hours, 32 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <TMavica> tomorrow | 21:06 |
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| phlixi_ | <Tegu> SSH over WLAN does work but I tend to have issues with it. usually I have to shut down and reopen WLAN | 21:20 |
| phlixi_ | Tegu: if i try to connect and the phone does not respond, it most of the time lies on the table besides me, i double tap the display and ssh via wlan instantly works | 21:20 |
| phlixi_ | thus (in my case) a matter of sleep, rather than something crahed that needs to be restarted in any way | 21:21 |
| Tegu | phlixi_: iirc that worked sometimes and sometimes not | 21:21 |
| phlixi_ | for me thats 100% the case, but of course you might have an additional problem | 21:21 |
| Tegu | but yea, during an ssh connection, if you're typing something and the screen goes off, the connection stops soon | 21:22 |
| phlixi_ | (100% of the cses where it fails... sometimes it does not needed to be woken up, then it works in the first place) | 21:22 |
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| Tegu | I guess it has something to do with this network, then (maybe the wlan box?). I tried to ssh in now with the correct IP but this machine just gives "No route to host" | 21:23 |
| Tegu | the network works on the phone, however. I can surf on the net and all (and ssh to this machine) | 21:24 |
| phlixi_ | that sounds like a network problem to me | 21:25 |
| phlixi_ | duplicate IPs in the network? wrong subnet masks etc? | 21:26 |
| phlixi_ | multiple dhcps? | 21:26 |
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| Tegu | probably a network issue then.. shouldn't be multiple dhcps, I don't have other dhcp servers running. subnet masks... haven't touched them. duplicate IP's.. not sure, shouldn't be | 21:31 |
| Tegu | but if it's something of those, maybe the duplicate IP's due to some reason | 21:32 |
| phlixi_ | some weird forgotten printer or whatever.. | 21:32 |
| phlixi_ | but if you have ips configured, you probably have also configured gatewwas and subnetmasks | 21:32 |
| phlixi_ | gateways* | 21:32 |
| Tegu | only DHCP all around. no static IP's. but hm, I've configured the DHCP server to give certain IP for certain MAC address | 21:33 |
| Tegu | so they don't always get shuffled | 21:33 |
| Tegu | but without the need to configure static IP to the device. the device just asks normally with DHCP | 21:34 |
| phlixi_ | thats where hostnames are useful :-) | 21:34 |
| phlixi_ | but that does not help to resolve the issue | 21:34 |
| Tegu | yea but then I would have to configure the hostnames somewhere (and this box apparently doesn't support it so it should be in every device..) | 21:35 |
| pdanek | Do you guys think the news about new Jolla investment are giving some hope? | 21:36 |
| pdanek | Or they will just extend the slow and painful death? | 21:36 |
| pdanek | :D | 21:36 |
| Tegu | I hope not :E | 21:39 |
| phlixi_ | my Jolla has the hostname "Jolla" | 21:42 |
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| phlixi_ | other mobiles usually use the "bluetooth name" | 21:42 |
| phlixi_ | or something generated if not configurable | 21:42 |
| Tegu | yea but other devices do not know about the hostname of another device unles something tells about it.. hardcoded hosts file or a DNS server running somewhere? | 21:45 |
| phlixi_ | i thought dhcp takes care of that | 21:47 |
| phlixi_ | i can reach "jolla", without configuring it anywhere | 21:47 |
| Tegu | oh? I thought DHCP only maps IP to MAC address.. | 21:48 |
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| phlixi_ | if it is not the dhcp that i thought, it has to be someelse the fritzbox (my router) does | 21:49 |
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| Tegu | apparently, DHCP can do more than what I thought | 21:51 |
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| Tegu | maybe it depends on the implementation. at least I cannot access other devices simply by the hostname | 21:53 |
| Tegu | perhaps some cheap barebones DHCP implementation :P | 21:54 |
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| ninnnu | Jolla (and other devices) tell the DHCP-server their hostname when they ask for new IP-lease (or renewal). Depending on router and config the router can add it to its local DNS-server. So no, it's not really something DHCP does as such. | 21:55 |
| aard_ | Tegu: dhcp does arbitrary settings. some are standardized, and if you need more you can do vendor extensions | 21:56 |
| phlixi_ | well, but the dhcp tells the dns (or you configured a gateway) | 21:56 |
| Tegu | yea, the hostnames are visible on the router configuration menus.. so they could as well be added to the DNS server but no, this device does not do it >_> | 21:57 |
| Tegu | I've tried to crawl the menus and manuals earlier but without luck | 21:58 |
| Tegu | but yea, I think I get it now. so DHCP client is able to tell the hostname to the router (DHCP server). not only the IP->MAC mapping. the DNS is additional part in this | 21:59 |
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| Tegu | the box, however, does run a DNS server, as the box itself can be reached with a name. too bad the server is not really configurable (other than changing the name of the box..) | 22:01 |
| phlixi_ | however, if you have "no route to host" i would try tracerout | 22:05 |
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| Tegu | ..and now that I tried again, it seems to work without changing anything | 22:07 |
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| phlixi_ | then maybe back to start, phone was sleeping? | 22:11 |
| Tegu | perhaps. I think I tried even after waking it up and browsing web with it | 22:12 |
| Tegu | the phone likes to lose all connections when sleeping | 22:13 |
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