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Kabouik_Hi all. What is the most inexpensive phone compatible with Sailfish at the moment (except Dalvik of course)? Is it the Jolla, or is there any good inexpensive Android phone with working port?13:18
tbrcheck the wiki url which is in the topic of #sailfishos-porters13:23
nh1402you could probably get the Xperia 2011 series quite cheap13:25
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mal-nh1402: that very old, more like oneplus x or some of the motorolas13:58
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nh1402depends how inexpensive he's talking14:15
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tbrthat's why I pointed to http://bitly.com/port-status14:16
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mal-nh1402: yes, but the 2011 xperias are some borderline usable, the small amount of memory causes limitations14:30
nh1402true14:31
Kabouik_Thanks a lot for your answers nh1402, mal-, tbr14:32
nh1402you could also wait for 64bit support and port Sailfish onto the Huawei Honor 5x yourself, as that's also an inexpensive phone.14:33
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minitreintjeSomeone who has experience with libiphb?14:54
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coderusminitreintje: only with nemo-keepalive15:17
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spiiroinminitreintje: I've been maintaining libiphb lately15:26
spiiroin... but basically you should not use it directly unless you have to; use nemo-keepalive instead15:27
* tbr uses libiphb from within python :->15:30
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spiiroinwell, there are no python bindings for nemo keepalive15:31
minitreintjeI have a QML timer to check for notifications but I needs to be running too when the Jolla is in a deep sleep. The backend is written in Python15:31
tbrspiiroin: neither there are for libiphb, but ctypes to the rescue :)15:32
tbrhttps://github.com/dm8tbr/org.eclipse.paho.mqtt.python/blob/master/src/paho/mqtt/client.py#L4315:32
spiirointhe story with "raw" libiphb is: due to nobody having time to fix alarm wakeups (in timed process) -> the system stays off suspend longer than we would want to15:32
cehtehhow is this "android can now use sd-card" supposed to work with 2.0.1?15:33
minitreintjeSo the best is to use nemo-keepalive in QML?15:33
cehtehformatted sd card with f2fs, jolla mounts it, but thats all15:33
spiiroinonce timed is fixed, apps need to block suspend themselves - nemo-keepalive will handle that implicitly15:33
* spiiroin is out of reach for a while... but I'll check backlock later15:35
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minitreintjeThanks for nemo-keepalive! Works great :)16:17
nh1402if you install an app from the google play store on the Jolla phone, do those still show up in the Sailfish app drawer?16:19
tbrshould. at least did for me16:20
nh1402interesting16:21
nh1402looks like yangm was wrong, or partially.16:21
nh1402time to check if it works.16:22
nh1402but it probably won't for other reasons.16:25
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cehtehwow .. rebooting magically charged my jolla battery16:32
cehtehwas at 79% when i typed reboot .. now it shows 83%16:33
nh1402well is it plugged in16:35
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cehtehno it is not16:50
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nh1402maybe it re-estimated the battery level then17:01
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* kid joined the rare club yesterday: "Jolla Shop: confirmation for your order #1400000629"18:08
kidI even completed the refund process a few days back, as I thought all hope was lost.18:10
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sebsebsebhi19:39
sebsebsebanyone got a Jolla tablet re fund via Paypal yet? no? I am wondering why that's takng so long I did it as soon as I got the email pretty much19:39
coderussebsebseb: not yet. i also thought it will be fast.19:40
sebsebsebcoderus: yeah I want to use the money to spend on something else....19:40
coderussame story19:40
sebsebsebcoderus: said they would proccess each week19:40
sebsebsebalready bough the similar thing, but but not quite the one I wanted, well I wanted that to. it's weird how a small ish but big enough amount of money can make such a differnece at times19:41
coderusand 50% per halfyear19:41
sebsebsebcoderus: yah but it's about 200 pounds in the first lot of re fund in my case, which is nice :)19:41
sebsebsebcoderus: seems my Jolla phone has become free as well or pretty much once I get refunded to, since I bought that on the compain for the tablet :d19:41
sebsebsebcampaigin19:41
sebsebsebthanks Jolla :)19:42
sebsebsebcoderus: you want to spend on what, the Ubuntu tablet :d ?19:42
coderusno. surprizingly i'm not a fan of useless geeky os on tablet. i want mipad 2 or similar19:43
sebsebsebwhat's mipad?19:43
sebsebseband nah Ubuntu Touch is actusally quite nice, I have two of the phones the bq 4.5 and meizu mx 419:43
sebsebsebcoderus: should have one of the tablets at the end of the month, maybe both :d19:44
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sebsebsebaww look like my phone won't be free now after all :(21:02
phlixilol21:04
sebsebsebphlixi: seems the refund submission form has changed since I was last on it21:05
sebsebsebphlixi: maybe some Jolla person saw my  messages here so uhmm heh21:05
sebsebsebbut seriosuly the remaining money I'll take that back and soon ideally  :)21:06
phlixii woulndt calculate with any money soon21:07
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phlixiif it comes soon, well, then its nice, but i would not count on it^^21:07
sebsebsebphlixi: yeah indeed and the first lot isn't actsaully that much really21:07
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sebsebsebworks out be about 123 pounds in my case21:08
sebsebsebphlixi: well not that much money, when intending on spending it on other tech :d21:08
sebsebsebphlixi: actually I aalready lost about the same amount on some stupid crowd funded cheap Android tablet with some diffenret software21:08
sebsebsebphlixi: the campainger went off with my money in the end instead!  after trying to  sell me an upgrade to stuff,  since a email covo. I put yes eventaully tired to get out, and that aws the start of the issues21:09
sebsebsebso looks like I don't get the apparant anything from the parcel that there was apparantly waiting in Singapore now uh21:09
phlixi:/21:09
sebsebseband that the money is probably gone to, well good job I didn't give him more money then!21:09
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sebsebsebphlixi:  yeah I aws meant to have something back in August or September last year, but21:10
sebsebsebthere was issues trying to claim it put in the detials for it on his site, so got into thsi emaiil convo.  where I put wasn't sure what was buying qutie, was going to maybe do patron as in pay more, and he offers me a discount, without the Google Play voucher, which turns out only works in Singapore to hmm weird21:11
sebsebsebphlixi: and then got in this email convo he's like I can give y9u that perk plus  the cases for so much more, but yes you would have three tablets then.   the toher two would have been slightly upgraded.  apparnatly I had days to get out of it to I think after emailing eventaully ok, but hten he got stupid replied a month later and so on from there,  plus I had ignored his last few, when I emailed last month,  automatic email, but no21:12
sebsebsebreply from him21:12
sebsebsebphlixi: indiegogo probably woudn't really do anything If I tell them about that,  so yep money lost it seems21:12
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sebsebsebphlixi: should be reciveing something interesting that I crowd funded on kickstarter, later this month though :)21:13
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