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| roboro | aloha | 16:00 |
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| roboro | I'm having trouble connecting to my mobile network | 16:00 |
| roboro | my jolla started out by dropping connection frequently... now it doesn't find it at all | 16:01 |
| roboro | I tried my sim in an android phone and all good | 16:02 |
| roboro | have tried several reboots etc | 16:02 |
| roboro | here is output from ofono | 16:03 |
| roboro | http://pastebin.com/mHZYy8FF | 16:03 |
| roboro | I'm wondering whether my phone is finally packing up | 16:03 |
| roboro | or whether this is some software issue | 16:03 |
| roboro | if its packing up... I'm pretty bleak as it will probably mean that I have to leave the Jolla behind... as I will need to get a new phone... | 16:05 |
| roboro | I use a bit of alien_dalvik stuff... so unless I get another Jolla (not keen... since it would be an investment in pretty old hardware) I would also have to leave behind sailfish os :( | 16:06 |
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| r0kk3rz | only other real option is the intex phone | 16:07 |
| r0kk3rz | or take a €500 gamble with the fairphone2 | 16:08 |
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| Smar | I’d take fairphone2, but first want them to actually release something... | 16:09 |
| roboro | neither are actually available yet as far as I can tell | 16:09 |
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| r0kk3rz | fp2 hardware is | 16:09 |
| roboro | any ideas on how I can debug my current issue further and determine whether I have a hardware issue? | 16:10 |
| r0kk3rz | but the gamble is with sfos offering | 16:10 |
| Smar | I want them first release a phone I can buy containing sailfish... :) | 16:10 |
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| roboro | yeah... that's what I was referring to | 16:10 |
| r0kk3rz | Smar: not sure they will ever do that. | 16:10 |
| Smar | why they wouldn’t? | 16:10 |
| roboro | mmmm and will you get alien_dalvik? | 16:10 |
| r0kk3rz | stock keeping mostly | 16:10 |
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| mal- | I really should release the first version of sailfish for fp2, I just need to rebuild the image with some tiny modifications | 16:11 |
| r0kk3rz | mal-: yes you should, many people are waiting on you :) | 16:11 |
| mal- | :) | 16:12 |
| r0kk3rz | roboro: signal issues are a hard one really... | 16:12 |
| r0kk3rz | roboro: are you absolutely certain its not your network | 16:13 |
| r0kk3rz | mine had terrible signal performance for a couple of weeks, and then went fine again | 16:13 |
| roboro | pretty certain... I put the sim into a really old android phone and it worked fine | 16:13 |
| roboro | also... I have not had signal in a variety of locations | 16:14 |
| roboro | also I checked if there were any reported issues with local masts and none | 16:14 |
| r0kk3rz | roboro: same kinda symptoms to me, remember the signal levels between phones will not be identical anyway | 16:14 |
| r0kk3rz | the jphone never had amazing signal reception (at least mine doesnt) | 16:14 |
| roboro | yeah, but I am not even getting a signal in my jolla... searching for networks gives 'Oops no networks found' | 16:15 |
| roboro | I can't even attempt to make calls etc | 16:15 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah mine was doing that, and it went away after a week, two weeks maybe | 16:15 |
| r0kk3rz | ymmv of course | 16:16 |
| roboro | mmmm so just wait without a functional phone for 2-4 weeks and then finally give in and get a new phone... doesn't sound good to me | 16:16 |
| r0kk3rz | i had an old android that got me through the gap | 16:21 |
| phlixi_o | and there are tons of those around 10 dollar at ebay | 16:22 |
| r0kk3rz | you can always contact care about it, but all the said to me was 'send it in' | 16:22 |
| phlixi_o | and if you send it in, the gap might be even bigger | 16:22 |
| r0kk3rz | which means you'll be without a phone for 2-4 weeks anyway | 16:22 |
| roboro | mmmm sure... but that means constantly swapping out sims etc to check whether signal has decided to start working magically | 16:23 |
| roboro | I'm inclined to try to work out what the problem actually is | 16:23 |
| r0kk3rz | yes its a pain | 16:23 |
| r0kk3rz | roboro: my point is you do not have perfect information, so you may not be able to find out what the actual problem is | 16:24 |
| r0kk3rz | do what you like, but the answer may illude you no matter how much effort you put in | 16:24 |
| roboro | yeah... I was hoping to find out how I might be able to get more information to make a judgement call | 16:25 |
| roboro | sorry... don't mean to be coming off short... I appreciate the suggestions... just frustrated that I'm finally in a situation where I may have to ditch sailfish | 16:26 |
| r0kk3rz | and understandably so | 16:26 |
| roboro | android and iOS are not really options | 16:27 |
| r0kk3rz | you're faced with a shit choice, where no options are particularly appealing | 16:27 |
| roboro | anyone had a go with ubuntu touch? | 16:27 |
| r0kk3rz | roboro: yes, but like sailfish it moves fast, so you need to have tried it yesterday | 16:27 |
| r0kk3rz | and it also means that what it does now, is not what it will do 1 year from now | 16:28 |
| roboro | yeah... that's understandable | 16:29 |
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| r0kk3rz | roboro: whether you're willing to forgive its current state and do the waiting game again with another operating system though... | 16:33 |
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| roboro | hard call | 16:35 |
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| r0kk3rz | roboro: also no dalvik on ubuntu touch remember | 16:38 |
| roboro | mmmm good point | 16:39 |
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| phlixi_o | another point to maybe worth thinking about is, yes, if you now order a "new" jolla, its old hardware... | 17:32 |
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| phlixi_o | ...but, does it really matter? | 17:32 |
| phlixi_o | (@roboro) | 17:32 |
| phlixi_o | sorry, that i am not able to help with your actual problem | 17:32 |
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| pp_ | it might be that the turing phone isn't vapourware, too \:D/ | 17:43 |
| phlixi_o | i always have somthing to complan... | 17:44 |
| phlixi_o | ...the turin phone is just ugly | 17:45 |
| phlixi_o | it tries to look exclusive, and horribly fails | 17:45 |
| phlixi_o | besides that, and that i still thinks its kind of vapory... it might be actually pretty cool | 17:46 |
| r0kk3rz | pp_: but if you need a new phone *now* its hard to hang out for a maybe-not-entirely-vapourware phone | 17:46 |
| phlixi_o | well, if you have the spare money for a spare phone, not much is needed: http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&Mobilfunkbetreiber=Ohne%2520Simlock&_dcat=9355&LH_ItemCondition=3000&_nkw=galaxy+nexus&_sop=15 | 17:50 |
| speactra | nexus 4 or nexus 5 works really good with sailfish as well | 17:51 |
| phlixi_o | nexus 4 seems to be the same price range | 17:54 |
| phlixi_o | nexus 5 10-15 more | 17:54 |
| nh1402 | oneplus x has similar pricing doesn't it? | 17:56 |
| phlixi_o | probably, but i never recomend devices i havent used | 17:56 |
| speactra | no jolla store on oneplus x | 17:57 |
| phlixi_o | on the first look i have the impression those have MUCH higher prices | 17:58 |
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| phlixi_o | two for above 100, all other above 200 | 17:59 |
| phlixi_o | the nexus ones above where 20-50 | 18:00 |
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| phlixi_o | ...and the two below 200 have broken screens | 18:00 |
| phlixi_o | thus, nh1402, no totally different prices | 18:00 |
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| nh1402 | ah right | 18:01 |
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| phlixi_o | but, whatever.. enough for today... gn8 :-) | 18:01 |
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