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| HtheB | what headphones with mic are working on the Jolla? | 13:34 |
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| HtheB | iPhone, Android or Nokia type of headphones? | 13:34 |
| kjetilho | Android is a misnomer. Galaxy S had the old plug, Galaxy S2 has the Apple plug | 13:36 |
| tbr | there are several standards. TRRS is one of them | 13:37 |
| tbr | IIRC this question was answered in one of the FAQs | 13:37 |
| kjetilho | I would assume Jolla use the Apple plug as well, but I only use bluetooth... | 13:37 |
| tbr | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202345776-Headphones-Jolla-AHJ- | 13:38 |
| HtheB | I have some "apple compatible" headphones | 13:38 |
| HtheB | but they give a "beeping noise" | 13:38 |
| HtheB | i mean, the microphone | 13:38 |
| HtheB | the earpiece is just fine | 13:38 |
| HtheB | it's a very high pitch tone that is a bit annoying to the other party when talking on the phone | 13:39 |
| HtheB | too bad the buttons don't do anything :( | 13:39 |
| HtheB | is there a way to do some software hack to make the buttons work? | 13:39 |
| HtheB | some patch? | 13:39 |
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| HtheB | dirkvl: read log | 13:40 |
| dirkvl | que? | 13:40 |
| dirkvl | will do | 13:40 |
| HtheB | thnx, miss weet je t wel | 13:40 |
| HtheB | the answer to the question :P | 13:40 |
| kjetilho | tbr: thanks! | 13:40 |
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| dirkvl | about headphones? | 13:41 |
| HtheB | yeah | 13:43 |
| dirkvl | no idea | 13:43 |
| dirkvl | google it | 13:43 |
| HtheB | Jolla supports wired headsets that use a 3.5mm connector, and that are of the AHJ (American Headset Jack) standard. | 13:43 |
| HtheB | So.... how to determine this!? :D | 13:43 |
| dirkvl | t&e | 13:44 |
| tbr | and if you want a generic converter (works both ways) http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Rubber-Earphone-Converter-Adapter-convert-OMTP-to-CTIA-or-CTIA-to-OMTP-3-5mm-B/32499617334.html | 13:45 |
| Lieke | theres this list http://reviewjolla.blogspot.de/2013/12/user-report-tool-jolla-and-external.html | 13:45 |
| tbr | it just swaps the two pins | 13:45 |
| HtheB | Shurese215Audio plugPerfectly (everything ok)Plug in and compliments for quality! | 13:47 |
| HtheB | Shure works... yes... | 13:47 |
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| HtheB | but when you use the cable with the mic, it doesnt... haha | 13:47 |
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| HtheB | tbr: http://www.shure.com/americas/products/accessories/earphones/earphone-headphone-cables/m-mplus-cables | 13:49 |
| HtheB | So one of this will work? | 13:49 |
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| the_mgt | [14:47] < HtheB> but when you use the cable with the mic, it doesnt... haha <- what d you mean? | 14:16 |
| HtheB | the_mgt: the Shure headphones' cable can be replaced | 14:16 |
| HtheB | you can unplug the headphone part, and connect a different cable | 14:16 |
| HtheB | the default cable is just a regular "headphone" cable, wich of course would work on every device | 14:17 |
| HtheB | http://www.shure.com/americas/products/accessories/earphones/earphone-headphone-cables/m-mplus-cables | 14:17 |
| HtheB | if you look at their website, they offer 2 types of cables that has a microphone on it | 14:17 |
| HtheB | one that is made for iPhones (with the volume buttons) | 14:18 |
| HtheB | the other one works with most music-enabled phones with a 3.5 mm jack including Google Smartphone. (says on their website) | 14:18 |
| the_mgt | that is a bit ambigous | 14:18 |
| HtheB | But then I still don't know if that one is AHJ or not | 14:18 |
| the_mgt | yeah, the product description sucks | 14:19 |
| the_mgt | from what I recall, apple uses the standard that is compatible with jolla | 14:22 |
| the_mgt | my old Nokia headsets did not work, the apple ones of my gf did work, but that was at a time when jolla did not support volume keys | 14:23 |
| HtheB | it still doesn't support it | 14:23 |
| HtheB | Or does it now? :/ | 14:23 |
| HtheB | because it doesnt work over here | 14:24 |
| the_mgt | I can try in the evening, I am not at home and I switched to Zik headphones (bluetooth) | 14:24 |
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| HtheB | From the Jolla FAQ: | 14:25 |
| HtheB | At the moment, Jolla supports the playback of music through the headset, and the use of the microphone during calls for example. You should be able to accept, decline or disconnect calls by using a switch in the headset. The other buttons, if available, do not unfortunately work. | 14:25 |
| the_mgt | that sucks | 14:25 |
| the_mgt | because the phone does register the button presses, from what I remember | 14:25 |
| HtheB | so it could actually be added by some patch? | 14:26 |
| the_mgt | you'd just need to fetch the event and act accordingly | 14:26 |
| the_mgt | I guess so. at first, the phone didn't register changing the volume via bt devices either. that was fixed, so I assumed somebody fixed it for all devices | 14:26 |
| the_mgt | https://together.jolla.com/question/75875/control-audio-volume-from-external-sources-headphones-bluetooth-speakers-pebble-headsets-carkits/ | 14:27 |
| HtheB | I can control the volume using my Pebble yes | 14:28 |
| HtheB | I'm wondering why this isn't just enabled then by default... | 14:28 |
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| the_mgt | in one of the answers you see the pressed buttons, you can use evtest | 14:30 |
| HtheB | evtest? let me try out | 14:30 |
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| the_mgt | and yes, pebble works fine here, too. and at least some other bt devices sync the volume. see my remark ybout AVRCP: The latest AVRCP versions (1.4 and 1.5) allow direct control of device volume as well. | 14:31 |
| the_mgt | my Zik headphones are still not in sync with the phone | 14:32 |
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| HtheB | so... where can we find evtest? | 14:33 |
| HtheB | tried to install it, didn't find it somehow | 14:33 |
| * HtheB is doing a pkcon refresh | 14:34 | |
| the_mgt | hm, no clue, it vanished from my phone | 14:37 |
| HtheB | seems like it's no where to be find :/ | 14:38 |
| HtheB | hmm, let me instal mce-tools | 14:38 |
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| HtheB | ok, got button presses! | 14:42 |
| the_mgt | is it in mce-tools? | 14:42 |
| the_mgt | it strikes me as odd, that nobody implemented it since the initial release of the phone... | 14:44 |
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| HtheB | I've used "evdev_trace -t". usefull command installed with mce-tools package. It's to see input events | 14:47 |
| HtheB | I've noticed that volume buttons aren't recognized at all | 14:47 |
| HtheB | only the hang up/pick up button | 14:47 |
| HtheB | hmmm thats weird | 14:48 |
| HtheB | now that I've called to myself | 14:49 |
| HtheB | I didn't notice any high pitch noise at all... | 14:49 |
| HtheB | seems like it only happens using the internal Record app? | 14:49 |
| HtheB | this drives me crazy -_- | 14:49 |
| the_mgt | gotta got, sorry. maybe more ideas later | 14:53 |
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| HtheB | does anybody has any iphone earphone laying around? | 15:54 |
| the_mgt | me, at home, wait 2h | 15:57 |
| till | i've got some | 16:00 |
| till | but sennheiser ones, not apple | 16:00 |
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| HtheB | the_mgt: Thanks :D | 16:04 |
| HtheB | the_mgt: Just need to know if its the headphones that are broken or just apple jack | 16:05 |
| HtheB | if you're at home, can you do the following for me? Plug in the apple earphones, open up the Jolla recorder app, and just record something and play it. Does it let you hear some high pitch noise? If yes, I need to get a different cable. If not, the cable that arrived to me is broken. | 16:06 |
| the_mgt | ok | 16:09 |
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| kjetilho | HtheB: you're not charging while you do your tests? | 16:19 |
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| HtheB | kjetilho: no | 17:12 |
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| the_mgt | HtheB: re | 18:33 |
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| the_mgt | HtheB: the apple headset works flawless, clear recording, no noise. the denon headset is the same | 18:52 |
| the_mgt | Denon AHC 260, or rather a little bit older | 18:53 |
| the_mgt | which are really good for the price of around 20€. you also get a nice carrying case | 18:54 |
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| HtheB | the_mgt: Ok, seems like the problem is with the cable then | 19:09 |
| HtheB | oh one notice: which iphone earphones are they? | 19:10 |
| HtheB | (from which iphone generation did it came from) | 19:10 |
| the_mgt | the same they delivered with the 5 series | 19:14 |
| the_mgt | we have two identically looking sets, I guess I bought one for my gf for her iphone4, when the 5 series was not avaiable and 4s was the hot shit | 19:15 |
| the_mgt | then when she got er 5, there was a set in the box | 19:16 |
| the_mgt | https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftaki.sourceforge.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F03%2Fheadset-apple.jpg&f=1 these | 19:17 |
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| HtheB | ok | 19:21 |
| HtheB | Thanks for testing | 19:21 |
| HtheB | seems like the cable is shit then | 19:21 |
| louis__ | Just skipped out on buying the Jolla VIP Box @ ebay. Don't know how to feel about it. On one side the leather case and three TOHs (pink, lime and aloe) are somewhat rare and I could resell the phone to get some money back. On the other side a new Sailfish phone it on the way and I wouldn't be able to get get the amount of money and would probably have some accessories for an old phone. | 19:23 |
| HtheB | louis__: how much is it worth? | 19:23 |
| HtheB | I got 2 leather boxes | 19:23 |
| HtheB | vip boxes | 19:24 |
| louis__ | it was sold for €175 excl. shipping. | 19:24 |
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| HtheB | lol wtf | 19:25 |
| HtheB | was it WITH the phone? :P | 19:25 |
| louis__ | Yes and 4 TOHs. | 19:25 |
| HtheB | ah | 19:25 |
| HtheB | ok then :D | 19:26 |
| louis__ | HtheB, How would you estimate a TOH (pink, lime, aloe) being worth? :) | 19:27 |
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| Louisdk | Has anyone tried this cover for their Jolla: http://www.shapeways.com/product/JGP9GSP9X/the-other-side-for-jolla-phone-experimental?li=user-profile&optionId=36411422 ? :) | 19:52 |
| Aciid | Louisdk: the other half is downloadable as zip you can print it at home | 20:00 |
| Aciid | just a heads up | 20:00 |
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| Aciid | http://modrana.org/images/3dprint/jolla_toh_official_stl_abs.jpg | 20:01 |
| HtheB | Louisdk: worthless | 20:01 |
| HtheB | because black is the best | 20:01 |
| Aciid | one made from asbestos would be great | 20:01 |
| Nicd- | TOHKBD is the best <3 | 20:02 |
| mornfall | asbestos, seriously | 20:02 |
| Aciid | fireproof and you can end your life with it | 20:02 |
| Aciid | so two stones for one | 20:02 |
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| Louisdk | Nicd-, really never got used to the TOHKBD though :P | 20:11 |
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| Louisdk | Was a big keyboard fan in the past, but a screen size >4" seems to big for a keyboard. Also a screen this size is easier to use cwith swkbd. | 20:15 |
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| Aciid | i was a big jolla fan, then I bought an iphone 6s plus | 20:19 |
| Aciid | also jolla still holds my money ransom | 20:20 |
| Nicd- | my wife's iphone has gone insane | 20:20 |
| Nicd- | shows green, red, blue screen sometimes and shuts down periodically | 20:20 |
| Aciid | sounds like it's time to buy a new one | 20:26 |
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| Nicd- | time for warranty repair | 20:51 |
| Louisdk | Nicd-, have you tried to set the date to 1. jan 1970 and see if that will fix it? :P (Don't!) | 20:51 |
| Nicd- | hehehehe | 20:53 |
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| HtheB | Louisdk: rofl | 21:15 |
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