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| citylight2 | news? | 09:27 |
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| chem|st | citylight2: soon! | 09:30 |
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| tortoisedoc | chem|st : tm | 10:28 |
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| Stskeeps | http://blog.qt.io/blog/2016/01/13/new-agreement-with-the-kde-free-qt-foundation/ | 11:26 |
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| Scelt_ | Stskeeps: TL;DR? | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | Scelt_: LGPLv3 all the thigs | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | ng | 11:27 |
| Scelt_ | booyah | 11:27 |
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| chem|st | Stskeeps: Jolla should read the first 2 paragraphs to start with^^ | 11:36 |
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| Stskeeps | chem|st: so, send to /dev/null? | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:37 |
| chem|st | exactly | 11:38 |
| chem|st | and from the looks of it linux foundation has other interests than free open source software | 11:38 |
| chem|st | I followed their announcements for the last 5 years and my 1+1 says they are hindering the "free" to evolve while really trying to stay best friends with the open source community | 11:40 |
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| citylight2 | is jolla planing to appear at FOSDEM? | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | citylight2: doubt it, none of the fosdem regulars are really there and i'm speaking not about jolla but about my own personal project | 12:05 |
| citylight2 | I think that last year, there was a jolla dinner - right? | 12:06 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 12:06 |
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| sunweaver | Hi all! | 12:07 |
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| sunweaver | I anything wrong with Jolla's Paypal account? | 12:07 |
| sunweaver | I cannot checkout an order of a phone with paying through Paypal. | 12:08 |
| sunweaver | Anyone who can give some feedback on this? | 12:08 |
| sunweaver | I get: "This recipient is currently unable to receive money." | 12:08 |
| sunweaver | Your purchase couldn't be completed | 12:08 |
| sunweaver | There's a problem with the merchant's PayPal account. Please try again later. | 12:08 |
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| chem|st | YEAH PayPal blocked the Jolla account^^ | 12:11 |
| chem|st | sunweaver: no other payment option? | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | sunweaver: contact care | 12:14 |
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| sunweaver | Stskeeps: ok, will do. | 12:21 |
| RaYmAn | presumably enough people went and disputed that they locked it down =P | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | RaYmAn: i think the indiegogo and finland one is two different things AFAIK.. | 12:24 |
| RaYmAn | ah | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | or at least i'd hope so | 12:25 |
| sunweaver | Stskeeps: care@jolla.com? | 12:26 |
| sunweaver | Or is there a contact form? | 12:27 |
| Nicd- | sunweaver: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us | 12:27 |
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| PaulePanter | Hi. Any idea, when the next SailfishOS version will be available for the Jolla phone? | 12:31 |
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| sunweaver | Nicd-: Stskeeps: thanks, request submitted. | 12:34 |
| sharpneli | Unfortunately I paid for my Jolla Tablet with a credit card | 12:35 |
| sharpneli | Cannot do a chargeback anymore | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | sharpneli: preorder or IGG/ | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 12:35 |
| sharpneli | Stskeeps: IGG | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | ah, well, yeah | 12:35 |
| sharpneli | Stskeeps: Amongst the very first. I got the cheapest option. | 12:35 |
| sharpneli | Ah well. Next time I'm gonna just use paypal for anything like that. | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | using paypal for crowdfunding is just immoral :P | 12:36 |
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| sharpneli | Getting investment and saying "sorry for your loss" is also immoral. | 12:37 |
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| sharpneli | With bankrupcy I would've understood. But not the kind of "Yeah we spent your money on something else and now we got more money and are gonna spend it on something else too, hahahaa!" | 12:37 |
| Nicd- | sharpneli: don't worry, you're getting a "surprise! :) | 12:37 |
| Nicd- | "surprise" | 12:37 |
| PaulePanter | Where is the announcement that the Tablet has been cancelled? | 12:38 |
| Nicd- | PaulePanter: in their latest blog they said not everyone will get a tablet | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | sharpneli: probably true | 12:38 |
| Nicd- | and they will soonish send a small batch | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | i think it's a bit more nuanced than that | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:38 |
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| sharpneli | PaulePanter: https://blog.jolla.com/new-years-greetings-jolla/ | 12:39 |
| Hartzi | others will get a refund? | 12:39 |
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| sharpneli | PaulePanter: "In other words, all of our backers will not get a Jolla Tablet" | 12:39 |
| ln- | Hartzi: where would the money come from? | 12:39 |
| sharpneli | Nope | 12:39 |
| sharpneli | No refund. Nothing. | 12:39 |
| sharpneli | The money is just gone. | 12:39 |
| PaulePanter | sharpneli: Thanks. | 12:39 |
| Stskeeps | it doesn't exclude the possibility of a refund, IMHO | 12:39 |
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| PaulePanter | I didn’t expect that. | 12:39 |
| Stskeeps | that blog post is just really terribly written | 12:40 |
| Hartzi | Luckily I got a tablet :P It's sad that there won't be more tablets. It's very promising product imho. | 12:41 |
| ln- | I paid the tax in october (with a credit card), i'll soon need to ask for a refund on that unless something happens. | 12:41 |
| sharpneli | I wonder how they selected the ones who got the tablet | 12:41 |
| sharpneli | As I was one of the first orderers but missed out on it | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | Hartzi: as the first person who had the tablet on my desk and got sailfish on it, it's sad how things turned out | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | seeing sailfish in 2K is just <3 | 12:42 |
| Hartzi | yeah | 12:42 |
| Hartzi | sharpneli: I think I was among in the first 50. | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, i'd wait for more communication since obviously the current info isn't sufficient | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:43 |
| sharpneli | Sure. I've already accepted the money as a total loss. It's rather small amount in the end. One wild night at a pub. | 12:44 |
| locusf | 4k sfos anyone ? | 12:44 |
| locusf | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput | 12:44 |
| Bysmyyr | sharpneli: I think they have send only 64g versions and maybe in badge ggc order | 12:44 |
| Bysmyyr | icc* | 12:44 |
| locusf | or http://www.up-board.org/ | 12:45 |
| locusf | up is more likely as x86 is already supported | 12:45 |
| sharpneli | Bysmyyr: I took the 64G upgrade. | 12:46 |
| locusf | and it could probably done wiht mesa | 12:46 |
| Bysmyyr | sharpneli: then no idea :P | 12:46 |
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| sunweaver | Stskeeps: I just got feedback from care about the Paypal block. | 13:05 |
| sunweaver | I guess, most of us are also aware of the Paypal issue in the Neo900 project: http://neo900.org/news/paypal-trouble-delays-project | 13:05 |
| sunweaver | Bitcoins, SEPA, direct VISA payments, whatever... | 13:06 |
| sunweaver | But not Paypal. Not worth a minute in communicating with them, I fear. | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 13:06 |
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| sunweaver | Anyone here who can explain, why money transfer from Finnish banks only is supported? Why not SEPA? | 13:07 |
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| Aciid | sunweaver: SEPA contains fees and it's slow | 16:36 |
| tbr | SEPA by EU law has a maximum runtime and the fee is capped to the same level as a national transfer | 16:40 |
| tbr | fees come into play if the currency isn't EUR, but those are related to conversion | 16:40 |
| tbr | also in finland you can't do non-SEPA bank transfers anymore, even within the country | 16:41 |
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| merlin1991 | so my jolla decided it's 2016.01.10T18:33+2:00 | 17:00 |
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| merlin1991 | how do I get it to autosync the time again? | 17:00 |
| merlin1991 | afaik conman is responsible for ntp fun | 17:00 |
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| chem|st | tbr: iirc SEPA gone monopoly for everyone now | 21:14 |
| tbr | it's not a monopoly as it's not a company. it's a system. But yes, I think most EU countries + x should be SEPA by now | 21:23 |
| tbr | As of July 2015, SEPA consists of the 28 member states of the European Union, the four member states of the European Free Trade Association (Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland), Andorra, Monaco and San Marino.[2] | 21:24 |
| chem|st | tbr: at least my bank wrote something about it becoming the sole system by january | 21:25 |
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| M4rtinK | the Scottish Environment Protection Agency does have its tendrils everywhere... | 21:25 |
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| chem|st | :D | 21:26 |
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