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| Bono_NL | Will the SailfishOS roadmap recieve an update soon or is the person who took care of that job "laid off"? | 09:37 |
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| Bono_NL | https://sailfishos.org/developmentroadmap/ | 09:38 |
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| roboro | hello people | 14:51 |
| roboro | I think I may have bricked my phone... is there anywhere that I can download a copy of /dev/mmcblk0p28 from a freshly installed phone so that I don't have to send this phone back to Jolla | 14:53 |
| roboro | unfortunately I was out of space and I used a loopback mount to add another device off an sdcard... I forgot I was still using that when I rebooted... | 14:55 |
| roboro | things have gone from bad to worse and now in the recovery console things segfault at the drop of a hat | 14:55 |
| roboro | any help would be appreciated... | 14:56 |
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| stephg | roboro what things segfault | 14:59 |
| roboro | stephg: okay, so umount for one... so if I mount -o degraded... then when I umount it segfaults | 14:59 |
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| stephg | are you able to start an ssh daemon I wonder from the recovery shell | 15:00 |
| stephg | so you can copy (static) binaries over | 15:00 |
| roboro | somewhere along the line... I started getting loads of btrfs errors on a check... so I took the terrible option of trying to repair | 15:01 |
| stephg | that said I don't remember if if umount and friends are in busybox | 15:01 |
| roboro | let me see if there is a way to fire up an sshd | 15:01 |
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| roboro | nah... no ssh in recovery mode... but I could copy onto sdcard and mount that | 15:03 |
| roboro | but really at this point, I think that the odds of recovering /dev/mmcblk0p28 on this phone are low... so just nuking it and starting again seems a fair option... unfortunately for that I would need an image | 15:04 |
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| stephg | roboro: so people aren't allowed to distribute images | 15:05 |
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| roboro | https://together.jolla.com/question/56009/backup-of-devmmcblk0p28/ | 15:05 |
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| coderus | netcat? | 15:21 |
| dunp | very useful tool :) | 15:23 |
| stephg | coderus: yeah nc would work | 15:23 |
| coderus | https://coderus.openrepos.net/jollarecovery/README.html | 15:24 |
| coderus | https://coderus.openrepos.net/jollarecovery/jolla-factory.tar.xz | 15:24 |
| coderus | 1.0.8.19 version | 15:24 |
| roboro | thanks coderus | 15:26 |
| coderus | you can also do in pro mode without sdcard, using netcat over network directly to dd :D | 15:31 |
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| roboro | coderus: I owe you big time... I have the image and I will reload it shortly... I need to do a reboot here beforehand though | 15:33 |
| roboro | will report back in a bit and let you know how it goes... will also make a point to donate back to you once I'm up and running again :) | 15:34 |
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| roboro | good idea to dd over netcat... this seems to be going well | 16:10 |
| roboro | taking some time though... but that's to be expected for 14G of data | 16:11 |
| Sidde | dd over netcat | 16:11 |
| Sidde | that sounds almost so weird it could be something from a movie :D | 16:11 |
| roboro | Sidde: I'm restoring a partition on my phone... with the expert advice of stephg and coderus... | 16:12 |
| Tofe | coderus: is the bootloader of SFOS 2.0 sill compatible with this old rom ? | 16:12 |
| Sidde | roboro: ah | 16:12 |
| roboro | Tofe: ah... now you have me worried... | 16:12 |
| roboro | we'll discover soon enough | 16:13 |
| Sidde | roboro: even better, wifi on a mobile phone... :D | 16:13 |
| Sidde | or maybe it's a usb link. then it's a bit bitter | 16:14 |
| Sidde | roboro: but i wil check back later and read the backlog to see if you're successfull | 16:14 |
| roboro | its over usb... so hopefully not too long | 16:14 |
| Sidde | good luck | 16:14 |
| * roboro holds thumbs... otherwise this phone is a brick and I will have to return to the horrible android market | 16:15 | |
| Tofe | Ah, thinking of that, my warranty expired just some days ago... | 16:16 |
| roboro | mmmm I think mine too | 16:16 |
| Tofe | Maybe it's time to dd the whole thing while it's still up and running | 16:16 |
| SpeedEvil | roboro: good luck | 16:16 |
| roboro | would be a good idea to backup those partitions | 16:16 |
| roboro | man oh man... I wish I had known about this ages back | 16:17 |
| Sidde | roboro: what happened in the first place? | 16:17 |
| roboro | started to run into the disk too full issue | 16:19 |
| roboro | it was actually an android app that nailed me | 16:19 |
| Sidde | ah | 16:19 |
| Sidde | i've read about those issues with the full disk | 16:20 |
| roboro | its not pretty... and quite difficult to fix... unfortunately I made a few mistakes... largely due to the fact that it was after midnight and I was fuelling my debugging with whisky... this is not a recommended bug solving approach | 16:21 |
| roboro | I actually recovered the phone for a while... but had nuked the android stuff that was causing a problem... | 16:22 |
| roboro | then I tried to get clever to restore things... and that's when I started running into issues | 16:22 |
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| roboro | yawn... still copying... I'm off to get some tea | 16:30 |
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| Tofe | how big is mmcblk0p28, again? | 16:52 |
| Tofe | ah, 15GB. | 16:56 |
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| SQUelcher | a friend just filed a paypal customer protection thing, as he bought a tablet from the store.. | 17:08 |
| SQUelcher | a shame... | 17:08 |
| eugenio | I hope one of the mentioned surprises contain a full refund | 17:09 |
| eugenio | otherwise I have to go that route too | 17:09 |
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| coderus | i will wait my tabet anyway :D | 17:23 |
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| roboro | fyi... the image worked and my phone booted... I am back to 1.0.8.19 again... so several updates to install etc... and of course I lost any existing data... but at least my phone is functional again | 18:31 |
| roboro | coderus... I owe you big time... if you do bitcoin... I could transfer you some dosh... otherwise I'll check the donate link on one of your apps | 18:35 |
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| coderus | roboro: paypal prefered but have bitcoins wallet as well for emergency cases :D | 19:06 |
| pp | I was so early I'll probably get one | 19:22 |
| pp | hopefully it'll be useful :D | 19:23 |
| roboro | oh man... so everything was fine and then I rebooted and ended up with the phone booting to a black screen | 19:31 |
| roboro | I was intrigued to see whether it was actually booting so I dialled it from another phone and it rang... but the screen remains black... wifi is not working :( | 19:32 |
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| * roboro has gone back to a factory reset... | 19:37 | |
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| flux | soo, what's the best way to send a message (from ie. a PC) to the user of a jolla, without using SMS. xmpp? | 19:45 |
| Jope | xmpp, telegram? | 19:46 |
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| coderus | flux: email :D | 19:52 |
| coderus | icq also works well these days | 19:53 |
| flux | well, email is laggy for me | 19:55 |
| flux | but I suppose xmpp it is then | 19:55 |
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| Jope | what do you want to transfer really | 19:56 |
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| flux | basically, "The fireplace has dropped to 30% intensity" :) | 19:57 |
| kimmoli | mqt | 19:57 |
| kimmoli | mqtt | 19:57 |
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| Jope | netcat? :-D | 19:58 |
| flux | hmm, so mqtt works on Jolla? | 19:58 |
| r0kk3rz | 19:59 | |
| kimmoli | jep, work. #sailfishos-push | 19:59 |
| kimmoli | ask tbr | 19:59 |
| flux | kimmoli, is it at working level yet? | 19:59 |
| r0kk3rz | flux, you'd have to roll your own service for it | 19:59 |
| kimmoli | i just got notification about you highlighting me here over mqtt | 20:00 |
| flux | I guess xmpp would be easier in the sense it would need less customization on the Jolla end.. but mqtt has some other benefits? | 20:00 |
| kimmoli | xmpp is also ok, i have made simple "ui" for homeautomation with it | 20:01 |
| tbr | flux: depends on use case | 20:01 |
| flux | I guess mqtt would be definitely the way to go if I wanted those notifications to end up to some app on my phone? | 20:02 |
| tbr | mqtt is dead simple and power efficient | 20:02 |
| tbr | I have some sample code if you want | 20:02 |
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| flux | sure, why not | 20:03 |
| tbr | https://github.com/dm8tbr/irssi-mqtt-sailfish - client side code. needs patched apache.paho | 20:03 |
| tbr | https://github.com/dm8tbr/org.eclipse.paho.mqtt.python | 20:03 |
| tbr | that's patched for IPHB wakeup | 20:04 |
| flux | seem to be linked from https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Middleware/PushNotifications | 20:04 |
| tbr | yes | 20:04 |
| tbr | in late 2014 the idea was to build a generally available push messaging platform | 20:04 |
| tbr | think like google | 20:04 |
| tbr | the state is though that those are well working building blocks if you want to roll your own setup | 20:05 |
| flux | hmm, I ssu ar tbr-mqtt.. but I cannot find any of the packages with pkcon search name/pkcon install? | 20:08 |
| svuorela | mqtt - that's the iot-protocol that ... ibm and others .. have been pushing ? | 20:09 |
| flux | maybe I need to run pkcon refresh first. 6% :) | 20:10 |
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| tbr | flux: hmm, that repository has other mqtt tools | 20:14 |
| kimmoli | pkcon repo-set-data $nameofrepo refresh-now true | 20:14 |
| tbr | flux: that has a mosquitto server and client binaries, server probably patched for IPHB too | 20:15 |
| tbr | I was experimenting with running a full mosquitto server on the client (in bridge mode) | 20:15 |
| flux | tbr, so I want to install some of those packages on my jolla.. ? | 20:17 |
| tbr | RPMs? not really | 20:17 |
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| kimmoli | did you already fix dependencies in rpm? | 20:19 |
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| kimmoli | iirc some python pkg was missing | 20:19 |
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| tbr | I haven't touched this in ages | 20:20 |
| tbr | I might work on it again | 20:20 |
| kimmoli | someone did something with mqtt, r0kk3rz ? | 20:22 |
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| r0kk3rz | kimmoli, yeah i didnt get very far with my experiments | 20:23 |
| r0kk3rz | the library i had chosen segfaults on the jolla | 20:23 |
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| kimmoli | i haxored simple testing ui, but nothing more. | 20:25 |
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| kimmoli | maybe if i had some io* here at home would help :P | 20:25 |
| Tofe | ok, I have now a complete dump of my mmc partitions; if something goes wrong, I've got a plan B :) | 20:25 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, i figured it shouldnt be super difficult to roll together a generified notifications service | 20:26 |
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| seaking | hey jolla :) | 23:05 |
| seaking | i was just watching your video "Jolla - A new beginning (Official)" and i was wondering on a awesome application for the device. A transparent background, one that shows the back camera view as wallpaper :) | 23:08 |
| seaking | i don't want nor do i have time to create the app, so please feel free to do. | 23:10 |
| kimmoli | coderus: i'm pretty sure that you can't make that ^ :P | 23:11 |
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| r0kk3rz | sounds like an amazing way to reduce battery life :D | 23:13 |
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| ottulo | a new kind of "killer"-app | 23:14 |
| seaking | it would be the best eye candy ever seen :D | 23:15 |
| seaking | anyway just a suggestion, have a nice day P: | 23:16 |
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