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| coderus | it is refreshed for sure, but cache is stored in different folder dyring system update, not in common one :) | 07:40 |
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| dummy | hi! | 13:09 |
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| Guest3594 | im trying to install sailfishos 2.0 alpha3 on xperia pro. how long does the first boot take? | 13:10 |
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| lainwir3d | o/ | 13:12 |
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| Guest3594 | following this http://reviewjolla.blogspot.co.at/2015/07/install-sailfish-os-on-sony-xperia-pro.html step by step but using cm-12.1-20150514-UNOFFICIAL-LegacyXperia-iyokan | 13:13 |
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| Guest3594 | now my phone shows a really nice sailfish xperia screen (witch turns on and off again, btw) and im not sure if the first boot just takes a bit longer or if i screwed something up. | 13:15 |
| Guest3594 | hope im not spamming | 13:15 |
| Guest3594 | :( | 13:15 |
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| lainwir3d | https://blog.jolla.com/new-years-greetings-jolla/ | 13:23 |
| lainwir3d | new blog post ! | 13:23 |
| hge | we are happy to say that we will be shipping an additional small batch of the Jolla Tablet to early backers during early 2016, targeting to send invitations during January. | 13:24 |
| r0kk3rz | Guest3594, #sailfishos-porters | 13:24 |
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| lainwir3d | "small batch" | 13:25 |
| lainwir3d | sounds like good whisky / bourbon ! | 13:25 |
| Nicd- | so, not everyone gets their tablet | 13:26 |
| lainwir3d | "Jolla Finish Single Malt Whisky - Small Batch Release" | 13:26 |
| Nicd- | but they did not say anything about refunds (maybe not even possible) | 13:26 |
| Nicd- | just some surprise | 13:26 |
| r0kk3rz | Nicd-, maybe they recovered the tablets we saw up on taobao | 13:27 |
| lainwir3d | "The bad news here is that we are not able to complete the production to fulfill all contributions. In other words, all of our backers will not get a Jolla Tablet. " | 13:27 |
| lainwir3d | Does they mean... ever ? | 13:27 |
| lainwir3d | like not talking about this round, but will never get them ever ever ? | 13:27 |
| Nicd- | r0kk3rz: "In other words, all of our backers will not get a Jolla Tablet. However, you can be sure you will not end up empty handed. We might even have some positive surprises in stock for you." | 13:27 |
| Nicd- | I read that as never ever | 13:28 |
| Nicd- | and also no refunds | 13:28 |
| lainwir3d | :-| | 13:28 |
| lainwir3d | damn | 13:28 |
| Nicd- | just something to replace the tablet (surprises) | 13:28 |
| Nicd- | but let's wait and see | 13:28 |
| lainwir3d | makes me sad for the people who still don't have it | 13:28 |
| r0kk3rz | Nicd-, oh, i havent read it yet, just thinking about the 'small batch' | 13:28 |
| * lainwir3d hides | 13:28 | |
| r0kk3rz | lainwir3d, also means nobody will support yours with awesome apps | 13:28 |
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| lainwir3d | r0kk3rz: hehe :D | 13:29 |
| lainwir3d | damn I hope they find a nice solution / alternative | 13:30 |
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| lainwir3d | like, "you will not get a jolla tablet, but here is the Nokia N1 with sailfish flashed on it" | 13:30 |
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| r0kk3rz | whats the bet its an intex phone | 13:30 |
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| pdanek | Happy new year! | 13:30 |
| lainwir3d | pdanek: already ? Where're you living ? D-: | 13:31 |
| lainwir3d | is that even possible ? | 13:31 |
| pdanek | Later i won't have time | 13:31 |
| lainwir3d | haha ok :) | 13:31 |
| r0kk3rz | lainwir3d east coast australia should be done by now i think | 13:31 |
| pdanek | :D | 13:31 |
| r0kk3rz | or close anyway | 13:32 |
| lainwir3d | alright | 13:32 |
| pdanek | Oceania? | 13:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | and japan, thats also in that time region | 13:33 |
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| FireFly | I know NZ is +12h from me, so they should've had their new year almost 3h ago | 13:44 |
| citylight2 | before I try, did anyone try to build the famous media player vlc 3.0 for the jolla? | 13:44 |
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| Stskeeps | lainwir3d: ugh, i wouldn't want to touch powervr unless i was paid a lot more for it | 13:46 |
| tbr | citylight2: your problem will be the lack of UI. why not just replace libav/ffmpeg and gst-ffmpeg? | 13:46 |
| lainwir3d | Stskeeps: you mean the Nokia N1 tablet use a powervr gpu ? | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | yes it does | 13:48 |
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| lainwir3d | well | 13:48 |
| lainwir3d | that's quite crappy | 13:48 |
| lainwir3d | well maybe something more like this then : "We'll send you to space ! With a space rocket ! Running SailfishOS, yes sir !" | 13:49 |
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| nh1402 | what's wrong with powervr | 13:51 |
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| nh1402 | at one point it had the best mobile GPU | 13:51 |
| tbr | meh, they are talking about a small batch. but given that they only ever had 64gb models this means I'll never get one, despite being essentially next in line | 13:51 |
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| tbr | because I didn't bend over and pay up for 64GB *SIGH* | 13:51 |
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| tbr | they could respect the listing order and offer people to pay something extra who didn't upgrade to 64 initially | 13:52 |
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| Stskeeps | tbr: otoh; weren't the taobao ones 32gb? | 13:52 |
| tbr | uh, good question. I don't remember | 13:53 |
| tbr | let's hope that they recovered those then... | 13:53 |
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| r0kk3rz | ping kimmoli | 15:56 |
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| kimmoli | plong r0kk3rz | 15:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | kimmoli, which onda did you get? | 15:58 |
| kimmoli | öö | 15:58 |
| tbr | the cherry trail based one | 15:58 |
| tbr | which you sortakinda can run linux on. At least HDMI should work. internal display might be tricky | 15:59 |
| kimmoli | hdmi didnt work with windows | 16:00 |
| kimmoli | i managed to get in da-setup by pressing vol keys, would need kbd to tinker more | 16:01 |
| r0kk3rz | oh right, so needs usb-otg + keyboard to really get into | 16:02 |
| tbr | I'd recommend USB-hub. so that you can plug in usb storage too. I bet it can boot from it | 16:02 |
| kimmoli | i should have all required cables to test, but not in priority list | 16:03 |
| tbr | getting more than simple framebuffer out of cherry trail might be tricky, even on hdmi. So far I've mostly seen windows devices with it and heard some rumors about linux being horror due to gpu. | 16:04 |
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| * tbr played with his USB microscope today and discovered that the focus wheel also switches to a second magnification: http://www.bfst.de/fipix/v/electronics/leds/ | 16:04 | |
| kimmoli | v820w-ch or something | 16:05 |
| tbr | last picture is the led from the first picture but on high magnification. the blurry spots is dust or scratches on the surface of the clear LED | 16:05 |
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| kimmoli | fokus "wheel" ? | 16:06 |
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| kimmoli | which you have? | 16:07 |
| tbr | http://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB-8-LED-500X-2MP-Digital-Microscope-Endoscope-Magnifier-Video-Camera-Black-High-Quality-Brand-New/32317158216.html | 16:07 |
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| kimmoli | is it really 2MP? | 16:08 |
| tbr | no, it's just VGA | 16:08 |
| kimmoli | sw upscale | 16:08 |
| tbr | as you can see from the pictures | 16:08 |
| kimmoli | yeah, same sh!t | 16:08 |
| kimmoli | on phone, i cant say from pics | 16:08 |
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| tbr | quality is surprisingly good for $10 | 16:09 |
| kimmoli | i did lool for real 2MP or more | 16:09 |
| kimmoli | but did give up. | 16:09 |
| kimmoli | some companies sell that for 300€, but i believe it is also vga | 16:10 |
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| tbr | impossible to find on aliexpress due to all those software scaled "2M" entries :/ | 16:10 |
| tbr | friend of mine is doing a review of usb microscopes soon. Once it comes out, I'll let you know | 16:10 |
| kimmoli | i used one with android tablet | 16:11 |
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| kimmoli | had to boot it with camera connected, and it appeared as front camera | 16:11 |
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| kimmoli | yep, it was V820w CH | 16:21 |
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| friese | https://blog.jolla.com/new-years-greetings-jolla/ humm, so at least a few tablets will be shipped? hope i'm one of the lucky ones :) | 16:55 |
| Yaniel | I certainly won't be | 16:55 |
| Yaniel | but I'm curious about those alternatives they are planning | 16:56 |
| Yaniel | maybe vouchers for the rumoured jolla2? | 16:56 |
| coderus | i bet no more jolla devicesss | 16:56 |
| friese | there are rumours? last i thought jolla was planning to go 100% software and let partners do the hardware | 16:56 |
| phlixi | are you sure it is "rumors" not "wishes"? | 16:57 |
| tadzik | I thought it was a press release | 16:57 |
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| phlixi | i bet (short to mid term, if ) no more devices from hjolla | 16:57 |
| phlixi | maybe one from intex? | 16:58 |
| phlixi | maybe others? | 16:58 |
| coderus | intex is coming for sure | 16:58 |
| locusf | fp2 | 16:58 |
| Yaniel | maybe fp2 | 16:58 |
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| phlixi | i guess no android apps on fp2 | 16:59 |
| phlixi | expect maybe apkenv? | 16:59 |
| coderus | all "community ports" can't be counted | 16:59 |
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| locusf | with krnlyngs "hack" you can | 16:59 |
| coderus | only intex have known official supported device | 16:59 |
| locusf | true | 16:59 |
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| phlixi | from a ui standpoint i like the integration of jolla more than the apkenv version | 17:03 |
| phlixi | but great to see it anyways | 17:03 |
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| r0kk3rz | i wonder if they could pick a generic android tablet of similar specs and do a hardware adaptation for it | 17:04 |
| r0kk3rz | since obviously the manufacturer has bailed on the pretty custom jolla tablets | 17:05 |
| phlixi | but in the end that is what the jolla tablet is | 17:07 |
| phlixi | a generic androif tablet and hardware adaption | 17:07 |
| phlixi | they where keen to update some specs... | 17:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | phlixi, kinda, its got a branded shell and handpicked display + interconnect | 17:12 |
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| phlixi | yes, sure | 17:13 |
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| phlixi | but in the end it was a generic android tablet | 17:13 |
| r0kk3rz | it was ultimately the differences that broke it though | 17:16 |
| phlixi | pretty sure, yes | 17:16 |
| Stskeeps | adaptation wasnt a problem, mostly, fwiw | 17:17 |
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| phlixi | and that is sad | 17:17 |
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| Stskeeps | platform work was by far biggest and then the problems during production | 17:18 |
| phlixi | not that it was no problem, but that those "enhancements" broke it | 17:18 |
| Stskeeps | well, you wouldnt have wanted the old display, tbh | 17:18 |
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| Stskeeps | plus ce/fcc certification always finds problems | 17:19 |
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| phlixi | NOW (yes, afterwards...) i would want the bad display instead of no devoce :-) | 17:21 |
| kimmoli | the display is too good now | 17:21 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldnt even want the old | 17:22 |
| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps, was it really that bad? | 17:22 |
| Stskeeps | uhhuh | 17:22 |
| kimmoli | now, just make it dimmer now | 17:23 |
| kimmoli | more dimmable | 17:23 |
| phlixi | that would probably mean that jolla would be in a better overall shape... that was the only reason i igg'ed it in the first place (kinda payed for the sailfish updates... | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | not that it matters, but you can get same code for any port | 17:24 |
| locusf | you really wanted 1.x sfos? | 17:24 |
| locusf | on tablet | 17:25 |
| phlixi | i guess nobody wants sf1 on tablet | 17:25 |
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| dirkvl | but from latest blog and overal impression it seems jolla doesnt even want to be a sw company, but also move to b2b alltogether | 17:26 |
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| dirkvl | *doesn´t even only | 17:26 |
| Stskeeps | phlixi: 1080p was a problem in 1.x too | 17:26 |
| phlixi | i dont argue with that Stskeeps :-) | 17:27 |
| kimmoli | it is still problem imho | 17:27 |
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| locusf | well 1.x was in the same state as glacier is now | 17:28 |
| kimmoli | or whatevö larger tablet is | 17:28 |
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| locusf | ie. no scaling of anything | 17:28 |
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| kimmoli | HNY | 17:32 |
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| phlixi | nobody wants sf1.0 | 17:32 |
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| HtheB | http://i.imgur.com/mdDvnDh.jpg | 19:15 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | Stskeeps, 5lt is enough | 19:52 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ? | 19:53 |
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| Stskeeps | happy new year from poland | 23:24 |
| RST38h | HNY Stskeeps | 23:24 |
| TMavica_ | Now yet here | 23:25 |
| TMavica_ | not | 23:25 |
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