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| Pawky | What happened to the "swipe down" to kill an app? | 08:00 |
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| Pawky | (in 2.0) | 08:00 |
| sharpneli | Pawky: You can re-enable it in settings | 08:00 |
| mornfall | it's in config somewhere | 08:00 |
| sharpneli | System->Gestures | 08:00 |
| Pawky | got it :-) | 08:00 |
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| tore_ | does anyone know how to make an android web browser the system default? | 08:19 |
| tore_ | same goes for e-mail client | 08:20 |
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| urs | tore_: you need to add Desktop files for them and make them the default mime handler... see https://together.jolla.com/question/1836/set-default-browser/ | 08:37 |
| tore_ | urs: thanks! | 08:38 |
| urs | note, however, that this gets overwritten on every update. | 08:38 |
| urs | So I used it for a while, but stopped bothering after the third update. | 08:39 |
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| coderus | urs: overwritten? really? why? | 08:45 |
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| urs | coderus: dunno. Happened to me at least... or was it just renamed files when the sailfish browser got updated last time? | 08:45 |
| coderus | ah, every update, sorry i have read it as "every reboot" :D | 08:46 |
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| lainwir3d | o/ | 09:00 |
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| SvenBertiI | is there someone that have a image of the newest SailFish OS? | 10:54 |
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| tbr | heh, that feels familiar: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=189789 | 15:42 |
| tbr | though I think this was already working in sailfish 1.0 or briefly after that | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: the device still drifts like fucking mad when in airplane mode | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: i know relativity theory and all that, but that hong kong trip did not make me skip forward 30 minutes.. :P | 15:44 |
| tbr | ah, right | 15:45 |
| tbr | I think the ntp and NITZ "fixed" this mostly | 15:45 |
| Nicd- | I love how everyone is piling on the bug just saying "fix iiiiit" | 15:45 |
| Nicd- | how all public bugtrackers end up | 15:45 |
| tbr | Nicd-: makes you feel just like at home on tjc | 15:46 |
| stephg | Nicd-: isn't that what bugtrackers are for? +1 me too etc. :P | 15:46 |
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| tbr | well, on bugzilla.mozilla.org it used to be rather strict, you'd get told to gtfo if you don't have value to add and if there would be multiple people it would get restricted to EDITBUGS | 15:47 |
| Nicd- | I think all bugtrackers should have a "+1" button that does nothing except increment a counter | 15:48 |
| Nicd- | "click this if you too have this bug but have nothing helpful to say" | 15:48 |
| tbr | BMO has that, it's called votes | 15:48 |
| Yaniel | it's not marked clearly enough | 15:53 |
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| tadzik | :o | 15:54 |
| tadzik | ww | 15:54 |
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| M4rtinK | Nicd-: +1 button == CC | 15:56 |
| M4rtinK | Nicd-: (and that's actually what the automatic bug reporting tool (ABRT) for Fedora does if it detects a duplicate) | 15:57 |
| M4rtinK | also generally many bugs being reported means someone is actually using the software, which is actually what one usually wants | 15:58 |
| M4rtinK | no bugs == no users | 15:59 |
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| tbr | automatic tools only work for abnormal termination conditions or otherwise detectable occurences | 16:03 |
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| M4rtinK | sure, but that's generally quite critical and should be fixed :) | 16:52 |
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| caitlin | if any of your spiffy humans have torque on your jolla could you say from where you got it? | 18:07 |
| caitlin | rly don’t want to invoke a google in my lovely phone | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | torque? | 18:08 |
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| Stskeeps | what's that? | 18:09 |
| nh1402 | isn't that the measure of turning force on an object | 18:11 |
| caitlin | that crap that connects to a blueteeth obd2 reader and tells you why your car keeps stalling but mostly is used by chavs to make crappy laggy turbo dial readouts | 18:12 |
| caitlin | my golf is running crap though | 18:12 |
| caitlin | and i dont’ really want to write all the python to grudge out the fault codes | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. that might be problematic due to the lack of bluetooth support in the android runtime | 18:12 |
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| caitlin | ah, fair enuff | 18:16 |
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| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: its an ODBII app on android i think | 18:20 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah but bluetooth being the key | 18:20 |
| r0kk3rz | yep | 18:21 |
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| r0kk3rz | although, ive seen USB ones which might work with the tablet | 18:21 |
| r0kk3rz | but usually the baud rate for ODBII is only useful for minor diagnostics anyway | 18:22 |
| kimmoli | wifi obd works (just sayin) | 18:22 |
| r0kk3rz | they make wifi ones now? of course they do | 18:22 |
| kimmoli | ofc. | 18:22 |
| r0kk3rz | wifi devices dont always seem to work with alien-dalvik anyway | 18:23 |
| kimmoli | i started writing obd native app, but didn't get a good name for the app :P | 18:23 |
| r0kk3rz | the name is the most important part | 18:23 |
| kimmoli | yes, and the sdk asks it when you start... | 18:24 |
| r0kk3rz | and if i see another app called sailnoun i think i'll die inside | 18:24 |
| kimmoli | best i came up was "anchobdii" | 18:24 |
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| r0kk3rz | outboard | 18:26 |
| r0kk3rz | thats what id call it | 18:27 |
| r0kk3rz | although maybe its time to grow out of the nautical theme | 18:27 |
| kimmoli | on tablet, when display goes off, it will be a paddle | 18:28 |
| r0kk3rz | i was thinking, it should be possible to get systemd hibernate working on the tablet | 18:28 |
| r0kk3rz | which would be cool and useful | 18:28 |
| kimmoli | who makes app called harbour? harbour-harbour , or is it reserved? | 18:29 |
| r0kk3rz | dry dock | 18:29 |
| r0kk3rz | theres another name for it | 18:29 |
| kimmoli | wasnt that planned for the pc-suite? | 18:29 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont know, theres a big thread with names and thats about it | 18:30 |
| r0kk3rz | havent seen nor heard about any pc suite thing | 18:30 |
| kimmoli | well, there is a memo about it. | 18:31 |
| kimmoli | discussion was between "shovels" and "space exploration" | 18:31 |
| r0kk3rz | space shovels | 18:33 |
| r0kk3rz | hopefully they'll do an interation meeting thing soon and we'll get an update to the roadmap | 18:34 |
| r0kk3rz | seems to have been a while | 18:34 |
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| madk | you know you can just go to a shop and they'll most likely do a reading for free? | 18:40 |
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| Nokius_work | r0kk3rz: yes they do u can controll the car easyer now iirc it was the ad once | 18:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | Nokius_work: well more stuff is connected to the CANBUS which can make the ODBII a bit more fun to play with | 18:51 |
| r0kk3rz | but generally its nice to know that the computer agrees with what you see in the engine bay, and all its sensors are working properly | 18:52 |
| Nokius_work | :D | 18:52 |
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| MoritzJT | Thanks for the latest update, really enjoy that! I have seen mosens video and was pleased by the answers given to him about the indicativity of the performance tool | 19:11 |
| MoritzJT | https://together.jolla.com/question/116731/question-framerate-display-in-developer-mode/ | 19:11 |
| MoritzJT | Nice stuff! It runs fluid on my device :-) | 19:11 |
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| r0kk3rz | so this is the third major compositor rewrite? | 19:15 |
| r0kk3rz | well, second rewrite i guess | 19:16 |
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| MoritzJT | Second afaik | 19:18 |
| MoritzJT | First one came rather early didn't it? | 19:18 |
| MoritzJT | QT 5.x and so on? | 19:18 |
| Helle | ah, that breaks my experimental redshift code again | 19:19 |
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| MoritzJT | Experimental as confidential, non public, you can't have it? :D | 19:20 |
| MoritzJT | I use flux on *barf* windows | 19:21 |
| MoritzJT | redshift seems nicer! | 19:21 |
| Helle | MoritzJT: redshift is quite nice, my version for the phone is a bit simplistic, but works because you can jam a shader on top of the compositor | 19:22 |
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| coderus | what redshift does? | 19:28 |
| coderus | just drawing transparent color layer? | 19:28 |
| Helle | coderus: no, it uses a matrix transform shader | 19:33 |
| Helle | and I implement the same transform | 19:33 |
| coderus | opensource? | 19:35 |
| Helle | yep | 19:35 |
| coderus | link please :) | 19:35 |
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| Helle | oh, you mean to redshift or my hack to do the same on Jolla ? | 19:35 |
| Helle | the latter I haven't published yet as it takes manual work to apply | 19:36 |
| coderus | your sailfish hack :) | 19:36 |
| Helle | ah, yeah, that is not yet online pending a bit more stability and me figuring out a way to apply it in runtime | 19:36 |
| Helle | s/in/at/ | 19:36 |
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| coderus | publish it to tjc at least with instructions :) | 19:39 |
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| MoritzJT | looking forward to it | 19:39 |
| Helle | I'll see about it this weekend | 19:40 |
| nh1402 | redshift is just like f.lux right? | 19:42 |
| r0kk3rz | nh1402: yeah | 19:43 |
| r0kk3rz | shifts colour balance in sync with daylight hours | 19:43 |
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| nh1402 | i use f.lux all the time, but found redshift to be too strong on the phone | 19:44 |
| Helle | nh1402: you can adjust how strong it is | 19:45 |
| nh1402 | is redshift available on phones i can't find it | 19:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | nh1402: likely looks into something the jolla doesnt have | 19:46 |
| r0kk3rz | *hooks | 19:46 |
| nh1402 | I was talking about on the google play store, all I see is twighlight and bluelight | 19:47 |
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| Helle | redshift is for Linux and it's not currently availible | 19:47 |
| Helle | I wrote an equivilent | 19:47 |
| Helle | but it's a horrible hack as I have to patch some QML files | 19:48 |
| r0kk3rz | Helle: yeah it would be nice to have something lower level to tweak colour balance with | 19:48 |
| r0kk3rz | be great for tablet | 19:48 |
| Helle | r0kk3rz: yep | 19:49 |
| Helle | r0kk3rz: well, this thing can do generic colour balance tweaking aswell | 19:49 |
| r0kk3rz | i think that will be on the list of the many things to hack with on the tablet | 19:49 |
| Helle | r0kk3rz: as soon as I have a tablet i'll see if I can straight up port it | 19:49 |
| Helle | at the moment my phone needs to still be sent back because it has a broken speaker | 19:49 |
| coderus | Helle: qml is same for all platforms | 19:50 |
| r0kk3rz | yes, still need to receive one of those tablet things... | 19:50 |
| Helle | coderus: cool, that saves a lot of work | 19:50 |
| Helle | anyway not have updated it for the latest update yet,s o that is a thing I now need to do first | 19:51 |
| nh1402 | I thought f.lux was supposed to work in Linux, without a ui | 19:52 |
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| coderus | Helle: make a patch with settings applet ;) | 19:54 |
| Helle | coderus: the settings applet actually also works | 19:55 |
| Helle | that was something I already wrote for it | 19:55 |
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| coderus | cool :) | 19:58 |
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| MoritzJT | depends on how redshift (f.lux is windows only right?) interacts with linux | 20:01 |
| MoritzJT | does it do some wayland / x interaction or on another approach? | 20:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | MoritzJT: seems to bang on XRandR | 20:12 |
| r0kk3rz | with no waylandish implementation | 20:12 |
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| Stskeeps | Helle: tablet uses hwcomposer extensively so i'm not sure it'd be able to :/ | 20:18 |
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| Helle | Stskeeps: mmm, that would be a problem indeed | 20:18 |
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| japa-fii | Hi. How do i force my jolla for 2g? Apparently only way to use jolla in usa | 22:51 |
| japa-fii | Cant find anything from settings... | 22:51 |
| nh1402 | I would say *#*#4636#*#* but it doesn't work in Sailfish | 22:54 |
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| japa-fii | I recall earlier sailfish os had the option to select netwrk operation mode | 22:55 |
| nh1402 | that would open up an app in Android with Phone information, where you can change it to 2g, which I have to do manually since it doesn't automatically change to 2g normally which is stupis, and on my Nexus 5 in Sailfish it lets you pick 2, 3 or 4g even now | 22:56 |
| nh1402 | not sure why yours isn't | 22:56 |
| eugenio | Settings -> Mobile Network -> Network Mode | 22:58 |
| japa-fii | :( my iphone frieds cant stop making fun of me... On my last visit i had n900, which was ancient. But now having "new" phone and still cant use it in usa... | 23:00 |
| japa-fii | Netwrk mode is greyed out as i am currently not connected. | 23:00 |
| eugenio | hm | 23:01 |
| eugenio | perhaps there is a way to set it anyways | 23:01 |
| japa-fii | Not connected because 2g not enabled. Cant enable cause not connected. Catch-22 | 23:01 |
| eugenio | hehe | 23:02 |
| eugenio | do you have developer mode enabled? | 23:02 |
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| japa-fii | Well, leaving back to europe in 3 days... | 23:02 |
| japa-fii | Yes i have | 23:02 |
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| eugenio | hm, perhaps it can be done with some dbus magic | 23:05 |
| japa-fii | If you know the magic words, im willing to test | 23:06 |
| eugenio | I'm trying :) | 23:06 |
| japa-fii | Or have suggestion for lures/spells.... | 23:06 |
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| eugenio | dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0 org.ofono.RadioSettings.SetProperty string:"TechnologyPreference" variant:string:"gsm" | 23:11 |
| japa-fii | I need to get my tojkbd to type that long lure in... | 23:12 |
| eugenio | heh, or a ssh shell :) | 23:13 |
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| japa-fii | Is there space in /ril_0 org.ofono... ? | 23:16 |
| eugenio | yes | 23:16 |
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| japa-fii | I was about to write the command reply string.... Just that my phone is busy receiving smses :) | 23:22 |
| japa-fii | Working!!! | 23:22 |
| japa-fii | Thanks | 23:22 |
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| eugenio | great :D | 23:23 |
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