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| Kabouik | Now that there are multiple patches to allow landscape on the Jolla, including homescreen, app launcher, events and settings, it's starting to be very convenient to actually use it landscape by default if you have a tohkbd. | 01:18 |
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| Kabouik | Only issue is it goes back to portrait if you launch a portrait-only app | 01:18 |
| Kabouik | And for tohkbd users, I think Quick Launcher app is a must have, but it's only portrait. Is it open source and could it be patched to allow landscape too? | 01:19 |
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| coderus | Kabouik: ping tortoisedoc when he awake | 02:01 |
| Kabouik | Thanks coderus, couldn't find a thread or Openrepos url for quicklauncher so I didn't know who to ask | 02:01 |
| Kabouik | I'm off to bed too, I'll see that tomorrow | 02:02 |
| coderus | because is not a "quicklauncher" | 02:02 |
| coderus | it's a quickbar | 02:02 |
| Kabouik | It's not the same | 02:02 |
| Kabouik | Quickbar is another one | 02:02 |
| coderus | okay | 02:02 |
| coderus | what is quicklauncher then? | 02:02 |
| Kabouik | Quick launcher is the one you type in like the two or three first chars of your app, and it brings it to you (convenient when you have plenty of them) | 02:03 |
| Kabouik | http://www.codingsubmarine.com/projects/jolla-quicklauncher/ here, but I don't know if this guy is the dev | 02:03 |
| coderus | ah this one | 02:03 |
| coderus | artema is also in irc sometimes i think | 02:04 |
| coderus | and i don't like any launcher apps where i need to type appname to find it :D | 02:04 |
| coderus | i like icons :D | 02:05 |
| Kabouik | If he is the dev, I could drop a comment on his blog anyway | 02:05 |
| Kabouik | Yeah I like icons too, specially because I finally sorted EVERYTHING in folders, for the first time since the Jolla was released | 02:05 |
| Kabouik | The factory reset from last time helped :p | 02:06 |
| Kabouik | But anyway, with a tohkbd and alt+tab feature, Quick launcher is very convenient, except it's portrait only so it messes up the landscape homescreen (thank you for this patch by the way, great job!) | 02:06 |
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| coderus | well, probably i need to make a patch allowing rotation to any direction for everything, but imho it will cause some problems with some apps, so, i'm not usre | 02:20 |
| Kabouik | Would be great, but yeah you'll likely face apps whose layout won't work anymore | 02:21 |
| Kabouik | As for the rotated homescreen, I think that the best would be to have covers in landscape too (would be more logical, since you display apps in landscape anyway, you expect thumbnails in landscape too), as on the N900. But I reckon it would yield a LOT of issues :) | 02:22 |
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| coderus | covers are different, it should be fixed by jolla first, because its designed to be portrait only and have no rotation proprties | 02:35 |
| Kabouik | Alright, anyway it's already a huge progress | 02:36 |
| Kabouik | I was very excited when I saw all these patches today | 02:36 |
| Kabouik | The applauncher landscape patch has a slight issue: when you open a folder with apps icons inside, it'll show only one row of them (there is much more space available), and it's exactly one line so you don't even see if there are other icons below | 02:37 |
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| Kabouik | You can scroll, but more could be displayed in the first place | 02:38 |
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| tiwake | should any given external keyboard work with the tablet? | 04:13 |
| tiwake | I'd imagine so, but donno... not much information about it? | 04:14 |
| tiwake | erm, USB keyboard anyway | 04:14 |
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| taaem | I'm wondering what happend to the paid apps support in harbour... | 10:14 |
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| cb400f | maybe once sfos2.0 and the tablet are out the door, other stuff will start moving again ;-) | 10:17 |
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| gexc-phone | is it possible to determine if the user is holding the phone in left or right hand? | 11:37 |
| gexc-phone | if so, thumb swipe->events would be cool | 11:38 |
| gexc-phone | no matter holding in which hand | 11:38 |
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| taaem | probably not possible | 11:46 |
| gexc-phone | more sensors needed lol | 11:50 |
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| phlixi | well, in theory i am pretty sure its possible to do with just detecting patterns in touch/gesture and accelerometer (or even only one of both) | 12:48 |
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| phlixi | however, if this is not working reliably, it will be pain to use | 12:49 |
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| phlixi | ...or if you know how to easily trick it, you could use it to have either events or the other one right in the place as you need it :D | 12:50 |
| phlixi | probably more usefull would be to have upper half doing oine thing, lower half the other | 12:50 |
| phlixi | but what ever you try, it will be more complicated (even if only a little bit) then "vanilla", thus it might be bad idea (following the direction wich lead to the new behaviour, which was to make it easier for first time users...) | 12:51 |
| phlixi | oh, just realise, that gexc quits and joins just while i write :D | 12:53 |
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| cvp | Hello, is there a dalvik cleaner avaible for 1.1.9 ? | 12:54 |
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| coderus | " The applauncher landscape patch has a slight issue" | 13:14 |
| coderus | Kabouik_: patch have issue, really? Not sfos folder style? you think so? | 13:14 |
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| coderus | cvp: god please no! | 13:16 |
| coderus | schturman not yet received phone after repair and did not any stuff destroying 1.1.9.x yet | 13:17 |
| gexc | lol | 13:17 |
| tadzik | haha,shots fired | 13:18 |
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| cvp | coderus: :P | 13:20 |
| coderus | cvp: if you want to clean something you can ask here | 13:21 |
| cvp | can i upgrade from 1.0.4 directly to 1.1.9 over terminal ? :) | 13:23 |
| cvp | or do i need really install the two updates | 13:23 |
| pp_ | You get to keep both two pieces if you try ;) | 13:25 |
| coderus | cvp: no, you should follow suggested versions in ui | 13:25 |
| cvp | thx... i will try it... hate the two updates... dl takes sooo long :( | 13:27 |
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| pp_ | hehe, isn't it three if you have 1.0.0.5 on the recovery partition | 13:32 |
| pp_ | ... and the first one fails pretty easily | 13:32 |
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| cvp | coderus: do you read my post in patch thread. i post two pictures. is it hard to do that ? | 13:46 |
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| phlixi | i have alot of updates in warehouse, but installing one takes ages and i get "warehouse is not responding" every few seconds... | 14:13 |
| phlixi | is that normal? | 14:13 |
| coderus | cvp: pulley should be possible | 14:14 |
| coderus | and homescreen pages is carousel, but you can't add apps here, only some other qml pages | 14:14 |
| coderus | phlixi: yeah, warehouse ui is buggy. you can upgrade in terminal via pkcon update | 14:14 |
| phlixi | thats probably beyond my scope :) | 14:15 |
| phlixi | i had the brilliant idea to check for updates of warehouse it self *g* | 14:15 |
| phlixi | maybe its working better after the update :-) | 14:16 |
| coderus | phlixi: warehouse need to be updated | 14:17 |
| coderus | you can close warehouse when it not responding | 14:17 |
| coderus | upgrade process wont be interrupted | 14:17 |
| phlixi | thanks, | 14:17 |
| phlixi | but then i wont know once it is finished, right? | 14:17 |
| coderus | open warehouse again and go to my account | 14:18 |
| coderus | there is a queue of operations with packages | 14:18 |
| coderus | if its empty its finished | 14:18 |
| phlixi | ok | 14:18 |
| phlixi | but it is much less bad now after the update of warehouse | 14:18 |
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| cvp | coderus: but add a page is enough for it or not? if i want only the Settings page on it :) | 14:30 |
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| coderus | cvp: no idea | 14:33 |
| coderus | cvp: try yourself | 14:33 |
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| coderus | Landscape UI for everybody! https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-allow-any-orientation-all-sailfishos-applications | 14:40 |
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| cvp | coderus: no i dont want break my system again ^^ | 14:42 |
| coderus | :D | 14:49 |
| coderus | you can always send me some coffee for investigating those possibilities | 14:50 |
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| grnet | we see full landscape on the next update? | 15:26 |
| coderus | grnet: for phone no | 15:26 |
| grnet | for phone when? | 15:26 |
| coderus | nobody know | 15:27 |
| grnet | ty | 15:27 |
| coderus | designs are not ready for landscape, that sad :( | 15:27 |
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| grnet | maybe crop resolution | 15:29 |
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| grnet | for icons | 15:29 |
| coderus | it's not about icons | 15:31 |
| coderus | its about screen size | 15:31 |
| coderus | screen resolution | 15:31 |
| coderus | jolla screen is too small for most of sfos2.0 ideas | 15:31 |
| TMavica | Nice. No need install driver for Jolla in windows 10 | 15:33 |
| Tofe | You mean, to use it in MTP mode, the latter being designed by MS ? I do hope so... | 15:36 |
| coderus | TMavica: what driver? | 15:36 |
| coderus | you need driver for recovery mode ;) | 15:36 |
| TMavica | oh. forget. where is the driver | 15:37 |
| TMavica | i just tried ssh only | 15:37 |
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| cvp | coderus: i will do that :D | 15:40 |
| coderus | ssh is using some common rndis, but recovery telnet using different rndis driver (dunno why) | 15:41 |
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| TMavica | thanks. Just remember that | 15:48 |
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| coderus | cvp: btw, you can use partnerspacemanager to put jolla-settings in this place | 15:54 |
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| cvp | can i install apk files over terminal ? | 16:17 |
| TMavica | apkd-install | 16:17 |
| cvp | to see what a error message i get? because i try now three different file explorer and no one can install apk files (after i install google play services) | 16:17 |
| Kabouik | Yes cvp, using apd-install | 16:17 |
| Kabouik | apkd-install sorry | 16:18 |
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| cvp | not working :( looks like there open something, bzt. no installer window... its close fast. | 16:19 |
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| cvp | Interessting.. over Play Store i can install apk, but not over Terminal/File Explorer.No Installier Windows anymore. What can be broken ? | 16:26 |
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| cvp | ha! i fix it :D | 16:30 |
| cvp | ohh DJI Go App is not Working on Jolla :( want install | 16:32 |
| TMavica | yes. known bugs | 16:33 |
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| TMavica | if u install apk, try find APK installer in play store | 16:34 |
| TMavica | after download the apk, use this apps to install the apk | 16:34 |
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| cvp | and than will JI Go App working? becaus other apk files can be install | 16:35 |
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| cvp | no not working with apk installer | 16:36 |
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| TMavica | apk file damaged? | 16:41 |
| Tegu | try redownloading it or something | 16:43 |
| baum | uhm, where are the contact files stored? | 16:44 |
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| cvp | baum you can export it with this command: invoker --type=generic vcardconverter -e contacts.vcf | 16:47 |
| cvp | you will find it in nemo folder | 16:47 |
| kid | in sqlite db somewhere like /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/ | 16:48 |
| baum | sadly i don't have acess to the device anymore, all i got is a backup copy of the nemo folder | 16:48 |
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| cvp | TMavica: dont think so, play store self dont allow me to install the dji go app, means its not for my phone. this is why i download the apk from a other site | 16:55 |
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| baum | kid: exactly what i was looking for, thanks! :) | 16:57 |
| Tegu | kid: hm, what's the difference between system/privileged/Contacts and system/Contacts? | 16:57 |
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| sixtythree | I hope this is only because of beta performance on the tablet http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/3446444 | 17:03 |
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| sixtythree | For comparison the phone: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/3443402 | 17:04 |
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