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| Mikaela | Popcorn Time for Music, Aurous, coming natively on Sailfish possibly if they manage their main goal at Indiegogo <https://twitter.com/Inaneierase/status/644736501184626688> & <https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aurous-free-music-whenever-wherever#/story> | 06:12 |
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| CandidC | Hey hey, is anyone here familiar with writing applications for Jolla? | 06:34 |
| jaacoppi | CandidC: #sailfishos | 06:35 |
| CandidC | dake | 06:35 |
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| tabasko_ | anyone else early eccess user noticed that notification bar crashes time to time? :) | 06:49 |
| tabasko_ | or what it is called. Thing at screen top which shows battery,clock and signal status etc | 06:50 |
| Nicd- | status bar? | 06:50 |
| tabasko_ | Maybe thats what Im looking, trying to see if someboy already whined about it on together.jolla.com | 06:51 |
| tabasko_ | https://together.jolla.com/question/109629/status-bar-disappears-from-screen/ | 06:51 |
| tabasko_ | I'm not alone :) | 06:52 |
| Laxtlo | i havent found any problems so far | 06:54 |
| Laxtlo | sometimes os can be little laggy if i have like 10 apps running | 06:55 |
| Laxtlo | i guess jolla hardware is just too old :) | 06:55 |
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| r0kk3rz | 'too old' its crazy how we expect that a dualcore 1.2ghz 1gb ram cant run things | 07:00 |
| r0kk3rz | wasnt that long ago that my best pc wasnt as good as that | 07:00 |
| birdzhang | tabasko_: you are not alone | 07:02 |
| tabasko_ | Laxtlo: My windows laptop (i5 2 core 2.6Gzh / 8Gb RAM) is laggy when I have 5 apps open | 07:03 |
| Nicd- | well, iPhones still have only 1 GB of memory and are dual core | 07:03 |
| Nicd- | so the numbers don't matter | 07:04 |
| tabasko_ | and iOS probably doesnt still have real multitasking | 07:08 |
| Nicd- | even when running just one app it is much more performant :P | 07:09 |
| r0kk3rz | Nicd-: they also likely have an army of engineers to tune the thing | 07:12 |
| tabasko_ | https://kurnu.org/index.php/s/5jJhblbSjfJoudB | 07:15 |
| tabasko_ | maybe this error has something to do with vanishing status bar | 07:15 |
| tabasko_ | tried to run pkcon get-udpates & pkcon update | 07:15 |
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| tabasko_ | its interesting to see how Sailfish performs on tablet with more juice | 07:22 |
| tabasko_ | assuming we see them at shops someday | 07:23 |
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| cos- | email notification sound doesn't stay silent on 2.0.. is this a known issue? | 09:22 |
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| Mirv | I think I'm past the time of starting a discussion with a Jolla user eating lunch at the same table :D | 09:46 |
| Mirv | it's too common in Finland to know if the person is a hacker or an ordinary guy/gal that'd think it's weird I'm interested in her phone | 09:47 |
| ggabriel | lol | 09:47 |
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| ottulo | Mirv: several people have mentioned my phone in the last month or two, even though I've been seeing them regularly since about a year ago | 09:54 |
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| jaacoppi | cos-: what do you mean stay silent? stay after what? | 10:15 |
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| cos- | jaacoppi: i've switched it off at least twice, and again it plays | 10:16 |
| ggabriel | presumably you silence the phone and the email notification should be vibrate+blinking green led | 10:16 |
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| cos- | probably related to changing ambiances | 10:16 |
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| cos- | i've changed the email notification sound to "No sound" but after changing ambiances it's back | 10:17 |
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| cos- | i don't know if the setting is global or per ambiance, but either way it doesn't store it | 10:18 |
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| jaacoppi | there's a known issue about ambience only changing those sounds that have specified actions, but this shouldn't be such a case | 10:21 |
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| jaacoppi | for example, ambience A has "no sound for email", ambience B has "X sound for email" and ambience C doesn't specify anything. Changing from A to B cases email sound to be X. changing from A to C causes email sound to be no sound, since C doesn't specify that it should be changed | 10:22 |
| jaacoppi | difficult to explain | 10:22 |
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| Nicd- | issue? isn't it by design? | 10:29 |
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| jaacoppi | Is it a bug or a feature? Debatable. In any case that might be what's causing the problem, but probably not in this case | 10:33 |
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| ggabriel | well, in jaacoppi's case, there should be a global definition | 10:34 |
| ggabriel | you can't just "remember" the last setting if that setting isn't specified in the next ambience | 10:34 |
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| urs | I, for a start, would be happy if they first fixed the bug that prevents a majority of ogg files to be selectable as ring/notification tones | 10:41 |
| urs | Had the phone for almost a year now, still using stock notification sounds, since the ones I built aren't selectable. | 10:41 |
| Nicd- | convert to mp3? | 10:43 |
| urs | That would be the pragmatic solution. | 10:44 |
| urs | I'm no ta pragmatic solution kind of persion. :) | 10:44 |
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| minimec | urs: Hmm... I just tested that and cannot confirm that. All my ogg files are selectable as ringtone... with 1.1.9.28. Well I only use ogg files. They are encoded 'oggenc -q6' (aoTuV 5.5) | 10:49 |
| Nicd- | I just go for mp3 to maximize compatibility | 10:49 |
| urs | I have a bunch here, also encoded with oggenc. I actually contacted support about it a couple of months ago and they acknowledged the problem. | 10:50 |
| urs | Funny thing is that they are actually playable in the media app without a problem, but simply won't show up in the ringtone selection list. | 10:50 |
| urs | example: http://urs.nerd2nerd.org/sonic-jingle.ogg | 10:52 |
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| minimec | urs: Ok. I solved your problem... ;) You have to tag the file with Audio tags. Seems obvious... Then it works.. Tested it with your file. It works. | 11:05 |
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| urs | gnah. :) | 11:08 |
| urs | I don't usually tag anything, but just use descriptive filenames. | 11:09 |
| urs | So *that's* why the majority of my ogg files didn't work | 11:09 |
| minimec | urs: YOur file modified by me... https://www.dropbox.com/s/fbj3yiinbyj0g7u/sonic-jingle-new.ogg?dl=0 | 11:09 |
| urs | ok, great! | 11:10 |
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| msvb-lab | Where's stskeeps? | 11:57 |
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| ggabriel | gone fishing | 11:59 |
| cos- | shouldn't sailors get 2.0 officially out before any free time :-) | 12:01 |
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| tiwake | cos-: lol | 14:04 |
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| birdzhang_win | org.nemomobile.notifications 1.0 seems not work well at 1.1.9.28 | 16:05 |
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| birdzhang_win | only show the first notification | 16:06 |
| birdzhang_win | part of my code https://gist.github.com/0312birdzhang/2c65bbe7a9b78e11be11 | 16:06 |
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| kimmoli | set replacesId to 0 ? (iirc) | 16:37 |
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| roan | so coderus do the landscape :P | 16:46 |
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| PaulePanter | Hi. Lately, I always receive SMS twice. Is that a known problem? | 17:00 |
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| PaulePanter | I am in Germany at O2/Telefonica. | 17:00 |
| PaulePanter | Or there such bugs by telephone companies, which the other mobile manufacturers/OS writers know how to work around? | 17:00 |
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| Sail0r | PaulePanter: also in germany o2 | 17:12 |
| Sail0r | no problems here | 17:12 |
| Sail0r | which os version? | 17:12 |
| PaulePanter | Sail0r: The one which came out this month. | 17:12 |
| Sail0r | ok same here | 17:12 |
| PaulePanter | 1.1.7.28 (Björnträsket) | 17:12 |
| Sail0r | had no problems with this | 17:13 |
| Sail0r | but currently on the early sailfishos2.0 release | 17:13 |
| Sail0r | no problems too | 17:13 |
| PaulePanter | Well, I have a lot of problems that I get connections errors with mobile Internet (Verbindungsproblem). | 17:13 |
| Sail0r | have this only when connecting via eplus | 17:14 |
| Sail0r | but it helped to change the APN | 17:14 |
| PaulePanter | In earlier versions (not the last one), I was able to connect in a lot more spaces than now. And I am in a big city so there shouldn’t be any issues with coverage. | 17:14 |
| PaulePanter | Sail0r: APN? | 17:14 |
| Sail0r | in the mobile network settings | 17:14 |
| PaulePanter | Last thing, sometimes I am unable to control the phone app and have to swipe it in the background and than hang up on the small window. | 17:15 |
| Sail0r | settings => system => mobile nettwork | 17:15 |
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| Sail0r | and then edit LOOP | 17:15 |
| Sail0r | and set access point name to internet | 17:16 |
| PaulePanter | Ah, I have automatic and could choose between o2-de and o2-de+. | 17:16 |
| PaulePanter | Let’s see if o2-de+ is better, which the + suggests. ;-) | 17:16 |
| Sail0r | yeah I had the problems with o2-de+ when my apn was set to o2internet | 17:16 |
| Sail0r | and not only internet | 17:16 |
| Sail0r | o2-de+ is eplus | 17:16 |
| PaulePanter | Sail0r: I have LOOP deactivated. | 17:16 |
| Sail0r | you can edit it anyway with long tap | 17:17 |
| PaulePanter | LOOP → pinternet.interkom.de | 17:17 |
| Sail0r | yeah | 17:17 |
| Sail0r | set it to internet | 17:17 |
| Sail0r | and not pinternet.interkom.de | 17:17 |
| Sail0r | access point name is only internet otherwise o2-de+ internet is not working | 17:18 |
| PaulePanter | Sail0r: Awesome. I’ll keep an eye on it and report back. | 17:18 |
| Sail0r | hope it helps :) It helped for me | 17:18 |
| Sail0r | *worked | 17:18 |
| PaulePanter | Hmm, editing the mobile network settings also activated mobile internet. (At least I didn’t expect that.) | 17:18 |
| PaulePanter | Sail0r: We’ll see. Thank you for helping me! | 17:19 |
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| Sail0r | you are welcome :) | 17:19 |
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| Sail0r | http://www.hornoxe.com/wp-content/picdumps/picdump433/picdump433_003.jpg | 17:22 |
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| inte | hello | 17:53 |
| inte | i somehow locked myself out with mazelock | 17:53 |
| inte | is there any way to switch back to pinentry? | 17:54 |
| inte | ah figured out myself | 17:54 |
| inte | :) | 17:54 |
| v2px | how? | 17:55 |
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| gizmo__ | hi | 17:56 |
| gizmo__ | wow, 300+ people in here.. that is a lot more than i expected | 17:56 |
| gizmo__ | :) | 17:56 |
| Tegu | hi | 17:57 |
| gizmo__ | hi Tegu | 17:57 |
| Tegu | actually yea, I never really checked how many people here are | 17:58 |
| gizmo__ | I expected.. I don't know.. 50 or so | 17:58 |
| Tegu | of course most people are quiet (like typically on IRC), but still | 17:58 |
| gizmo__ | hehe | 17:58 |
| gizmo__ | the more the better I think | 17:58 |
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| gizmo__ | esp. since the jolla still exists in a niche part of the mobile phone world | 17:59 |
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| gizmo__ | hey, did anyone ever tried mounting directories from the sd card (crypted or not) to /home/nemo/Music e.g.? | 18:04 |
| gizmo__ | -tried +try | 18:04 |
| gizmo__ | I've noticed that the sailfish musicplayer will ignore that completely while quasarmx e.g. will work as expected | 18:05 |
| aard_ | gizmo__: tracker watches the directory as directory, not as mountpoint. if you mount something there it won't get indexed. so, don't | 18:05 |
| gizmo__ | basically the whole idea was to have several /home/Nemo users on my sdcard | 18:06 |
| gizmo__ | and switch them at will | 18:06 |
| gizmo__ | for testing | 18:06 |
| gizmo__ | didn't work out :) | 18:07 |
| aard_ | it'll break in interesting ways | 18:07 |
| gizmo__ | it would be great to seal off a user completely in a crypted sd-card | 18:07 |
| gizmo__ | i thinking personal vs. company profile here | 18:08 |
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| gizmo__ | i'm | 18:08 |
| aard_ | I'm currently working on something like that. unsure if it'll make it to your device, though | 18:08 |
| gizmo__ | my main problem with mobile phone at the moment is | 18:08 |
| gizmo__ | that i cant secure anything on them really | 18:09 |
| gizmo__ | my job requires me to encrypt stuff | 18:09 |
| gizmo__ | so i'm bound to laptops | 18:09 |
| gizmo__ | i would love to have stuff stored and accessed on my phone | 18:09 |
| gizmo__ | with the jolla i came pretty far | 18:10 |
| aard_ | one of the next releases will contain opencryptoki, which allows you to store pkcs#11 soft tokens, which already makes things a bit better. I'm also working on supporting crypto modules embedded in sd-cards for use as pkcs#11 tokens | 18:10 |
| gizmo__ | but not far enough :) | 18:11 |
| gizmo__ | sounds amazing | 18:11 |
| gizmo__ | do you have any idea if it will be possible to have multiple users in the future? | 18:13 |
| gizmo__ | and maybe even choose their mountpoint for home? :) | 18:13 |
| aard_ | yes, I need some basic support for that for the security topic, but again, no idea if it'll get to your device | 18:13 |
| gizmo__ | well if it comes to any device i can buy I'll be a happy customer | 18:14 |
| aard_ | jolla does not see security as an important topic, so it'll take a while to get somewhere. also, I'm buying some of the required hardware with my own money | 18:14 |
| gizmo__ | i think I'm not alone with this. But I don't know how big that market actually is. | 18:15 |
| gizmo__ | fo now I'm happy with storing stuff on an encrypted sd-card | 18:16 |
| urs | to weirdest thing about the jolla ecosystem is that I seem to know about 50% of the people in it. Hi gizmo__. :) | 18:18 |
| gizmo__ | urs!!! | 18:19 |
| gizmo__ | hahaha | 18:19 |
| gizmo__ | amazng | 18:19 |
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| Tegu | also, does anyone happen to know some cellular signal meter for jolla? I know csd but it's quite plain.. something that shows different cell towers, maybe? | 18:24 |
| Tegu | I also tried SatSat from F-Droid (android), but it feels somewhat buggy on jolla | 18:25 |
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| Tegu | this seems to have something as well: /run/state/providers/ofono/Cellular/ | 18:45 |
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| coderus | Tegu: https://github.com/nemomobile/libqofono | 18:57 |
| Tegu | hm yea, does the d-bus interface support the same features as that? I should browser ofono dbus stuff more, haven't found other towers and their signals yet | 19:00 |
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| Tegu | satsat shows them somehow, but no signals. and sometimes it doesn't show signal to anything | 19:01 |
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| gizmo__ | n8 everyone | 20:32 |
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