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Sail0rno good days for Google09:24
Sail0ron the blackhat09:24
Nicd-?09:26
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Sail0r11 ways via libstagefright09:40
Sail0r1 certi_gate09:40
Sail0r^^09:40
HelleSail0r: libstagefright, I am not surprised at all09:46
Sail0ryeah because it was disclosed before blackhat09:46
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HelleSail0r: no, I mean, due to the way the media DSPs work I am not surprised09:48
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pp_probably not the last holes in that area :-)09:57
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lardmanMorning all, I've just installed Sailfish os on an old Xperia Pro I had lying around, as per http://reviewjolla.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/install-sailfish-os-on-sony-xperia-pro.html, but it now gets stuck on the boot spash screen10:39
lardmanany thoughts on debugging the issue?10:39
* lardman wonders if this is the right channel10:39
tbr#sailfishos-porters10:40
coderus#sailfishos-porters10:40
lardmancool, thanks tbr & coderus10:41
coderusthis one is about jolla itself :)10:41
lardmansure10:41
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pp_\o/ "Repair completed"11:13
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arvuthey all12:51
arvutis irssi available?12:51
arvutand startable from fingerterm like on the n9?12:52
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arvut(so I don't have to ssh back home to use irssi with phone)12:52
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tbrhttps://build.merproject.org/search says some people did build it12:53
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Yanielbut why would you not ssh/mosh home?12:54
arvutYaniel: lag, on 4G12:55
arvutI don't like it12:55
arvutand it requires me to wake up homebox as well12:55
arvutI don't like to run my i7 desktop 24/712:56
arvutaltho, I found it awakened and running for 3 days when I got home from london last time, think windoze has put some weird wakeup timer on the system, I dualboot gentoo and win8.1 on different drives12:57
Yanielmosh is pretty good at hiding lag12:57
kidarvut: https://openrepos.net/content/rzr/irssi12:57
arvutmosh is what?12:57
arvutkid: cheers12:57
chem|stmobile ssh12:57
kidarvut: https://mosh.mit.edu/12:58
chem|stor mobile shell12:58
arvutchem|st: is it used in fingerterm?12:58
Yanielyou have to install it separately but yes12:58
YanielI use it12:58
kidarvut: brilliant replacement for ssh on mobile clients, and with network lag12:58
arvutkid: I'll check it out then12:58
arvutso its on openrepos too?12:59
kidarvut: yup12:59
arvutI need to get into that, I haven't installed anything from there yet12:59
YanielI installed from mer obs12:59
arvutI was suggested something from there awhile ago, can't remember what exactly12:59
kiduse the app https://openrepos.net/content/basil/warehouse-sailfishos12:59
arvutit was something I had use of12:59
arvutahh, some bluetooth software for sharing anything on device with nearby phones, that was it13:00
arvutfilebox or whatever13:00
kid:)13:00
arvutcouldn't share files with my sis, who also has a jolla, I got some of her audio from her last phone that she wants back, and we had no memorycard to transfer it with at the time13:01
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arvutsending files from phone memory via bluetooth is something every phone should be able to do13:05
Yaniellike the iphone?13:06
arvutnever owned an iphone, so dunno about those strange devices13:06
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Yanielspoiler: it does not implement bluetooth obex13:06
Yanielat least didn't last time I checked13:06
arvutobex?13:07
YanielOBject EXchange13:07
arvutah13:07
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Yanielwell, not that it matters as you'll never see a single file unless you jailbreak it13:07
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arvutwell, that's iphone in a nutshell anyway13:07
arvuthence the need to stay as far away from it as possible :)13:08
Yanielit just happens to be roughly the definition of "smartphone"13:08
arvutoh13:08
arvuteven most androids?13:08
Yanielthe iphone that is13:08
arvutahh13:08
arvutyeah.. I guess13:08
Yanielas far as your average user is concerned at least13:08
arvuthalf of my family uses apple hardware though, and they are rather strict about not using anything non-apple13:09
arvutalthough, getting my sis to buy a jolla was a big step, but she had a defect samsung s4 mini and had to get a new phone anyway13:10
arvutnext step is to teach her a bit of cli, I wrote her a tiny script that moves anything in her android apps picture folders to actual gallery, instagram and facebook clients for android don't play well otherwise13:11
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HtheBguys13:13
HtheBdoes someone know how to change the default browser into an android browser?13:13
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HtheBI saw a post on TJC, but I couldn't get it to work :(13:13
YanielI guess you'll have to poke xdg-config13:13
HtheBany idea how?13:15
HtheBhttps://together.jolla.com/question/1836/set-default-browser/13:15
HtheBThis is what I tried :(13:15
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Yanielhmm that looks more correct than what I had in mind13:21
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HtheBYaniel: well, I tried, but no lock :(14:01
HtheBluck *14:01
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Stskeepzattah: O_o16:37
attahStskeepz: trying out the compatible-ish battery16:38
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Stskeepzattah: ah.. pocket lead protector too?16:52
attahnot going that far i think, i'll put *some* trust to the internal protection16:53
attahthe fit and resemblance is uncanny16:54
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Stskeepzattah: i so wish there was a standard for battery connectivity17:20
Stskeepz:P17:20
attahyup, me too17:20
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Venemo_jthere are standards18:37
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enedilHello!19:32
Stskeepzhello hello19:32
enedilHow about getting other mobile OS on Jolla Phone?19:32
enedilis it locked somehow?19:33
Stskeepznot locked19:33
Stskeepzjust will take grease19:33
Yanielwas locked at some point tho19:33
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enedilOne may start porting Ubuntu Phone to Jolla19:34
Stskeepzyeah, but that was due to evil maid attacks19:34
Stskeepzenedil: ubuntu phone requires 4.2.2 or 4.4 now19:34
Stskeepzafaik19:34
Stskeepzso i wouldn't bother19:34
enedilWhat do u mean?19:34
Yanielandroid driver version19:34
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enedilAfaik Ubuntu phone is not tied to android19:36
Stskeepzyes, but it needs drivers and on most mobile devices, android drivers are the only thing available19:37
Stskeepzneither is sailfish for that matter19:37
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enedilI start to understand you. So, you basically say that Ubuntu phone wants some exact version of firmware which sailfish doesn't support?19:43
Stskeepzit wants certain APIs that the drivers on the device doesn't have (drivers are 4.1.2 level apis, theirs is 4.4)19:44
Stskeepztheirs=their requirements19:44
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Lipevakala_Damn, sms  not working in beta...20:14
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stephgStskeepz: holiday harder! I feel you're not holidaying hard enough ;)20:19
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attahstephg: I second that! (also, he needs to set up a beer donations system)20:39
stephgattah: :)20:52
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Sail0r:D https://static.ylilauta.org/files/vm/orig/m0aba71b/if-you-ever-feel-useless-remember-that-somebodys-job-is-to-install-turn-signal-systems-at-bmw-indicators.jpg21:53
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tadzikI like how we don't have to click the link :)21:58
Sail0r:D22:04
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