#jollamobile log for Sunday, 2015-07-12

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Stskeepsyaawn04:47
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Coolgeekguys, do you know how I can see the list of native apps without the phone ?07:21
Coolgeeklike in a browser on my PC07:21
tbrthe store is not available outside the app07:24
Coolgeekerf, ok07:26
Teemuwe all just love squinting small screens so much we want to use the phone as our main device and then the computers and whatsuches are used mainly for providing usb power and possibly backup storage07:27
Teemuwhile we are at this, the phone screen image is not available on external displays07:28
tbrI briefly looked at the communications and the jolla T&C. It might be possible to implement a web client, that would run in the user browser. It can't be a hosted solution as that would likely violate the terms.07:31
StskeepsTeemu: and we'll all be wearing http://www.amazon.com/Cybertech-Cervical-Thoracic-Orthosis-Brace-L/dp/B00D7CUVA2/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1436683928&sr=8-11&keywords=cto soon07:31
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Teemustskeeps yes, added with a phone holder07:32
Teemuwhat we can do and possibly should do is implement a sort of mouse-and-keybored-over-ssh control07:33
Teemulikely somebody already did that but it sits in their private git on the laptop or possibly buried somewhen in them githubs07:33
AcceTeemu: hmm? There is VNC server for Sailfish already07:43
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Acceor do you mean something else07:43
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Teemuvnc is okay for the purpose07:56
Accehttps://github.com/mer-qa/mervncserver works, but eats a lot of battery08:00
tadzikhah, people are buying used tohkbd2's for 400€ apparently08:02
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raa700wat10:19
Stskeepstadzik: good investment10:19
Stskeeps:P10:19
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r0kk3rzwell they are a unique item10:36
r0kk3rzmaybe never to be repeated10:36
r0kk3rzwell, unless theres another jphone with toh, then there might be a tohkbd310:38
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r0kk3rzwell thats a bit of a bug in TJC13:47
r0kk3rzthere are two users called simo13:47
r0kk3rzone with a captial S13:47
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coderuswell, i only want to receive mine tohkbd finally :(14:37
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narchieis tohkbd shipping in may too?15:01
narchiecoincidence?15:01
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eye_Ajolla )0!1@ joh15:29
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attahIs it just PEBKAC.. or is Jolla/Sailfish Alliance nowhere to be found on the exhibitors list for MWC Shanghai?19:18
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attahnor is Micromax...19:20
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r0kk3rzmaybe they arent an exhibitor?19:28
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r0kk3rzat global mwc they also did a side private conference thing whatsit19:29
attahyeah, you are right.. so perhaps19:29
attahWorth noting is that Nokia is going to be there :P19:29
Teemui'm guessing the more important stuff are sideshows and private meetings anyway, main booth area is just for the purposes of having something to show for the press19:30
attahguess so19:31
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r0kk3rznokia might be there from a 5g tech perspective19:35
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r0kk3rzhaha, one of the companies there is showing off a selfie robot19:35
r0kk3rzbecause selfie sticks arent absurd enough, you need your own little robotic tripod thing to take it for you19:36
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r0kk3rz"but also make the user become a focus of attention when he or she holds a device with the best touching feel provided by the screen protector."19:40
r0kk3rzwow19:40
r0kk3rzsurely pitching the optical clarity and anti-fingerprintness of your screen protector is enough, without trying to pitch it as a prestige item19:41
attahwat?19:45
attahscreen protectors are snake-oil19:45
attah...and apparently advertised similarly as demonstrated here xD19:46
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r0kk3rznot so much snake oil as ablative armour19:48
Heller0kk3rz: no selfie-UAVs yet ?19:48
Hellelooks like it http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/meet-lily-499-selfie-drone-that-follows-you-around-after-being-tossed-into-air-150118119:49
r0kk3rzbut yes calling it the Diamond J Sapphire screen protector with anti-everything and persona boosting touching feel19:49
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r0kk3rzjust seems to be trying a little too hard, maybe that kind of thing works for the chinese market19:50
* attah goes to fetch his dictionary19:50
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r0kk3rzattah: put another way, a sacrificial layer that takes minor scratches so the screen glass doesnt have to19:51
r0kk3rzbut admittedly the latest corning glasses do seem to be rather tough19:52
attahr0kk3rz: thanks, dictionary wasn't much use19:52
attahi'd say they have been from the original gorilla glass even19:52
attahsure.. my private N9 isn't perfect.. but it is in far better shape than most screen protectors i have seen19:53
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r0kk3rzwell people seem to buy the cheapest ones they can find, and never replace them19:54
Stskeepsattah: so glad we don't have a booth, can't imagine the hassle to get a visa for that19:54
Stskeeps:P19:54
r0kk3rznot attending Stskeeps?19:55
attahwould it be different for just having a backstage room?19:55
Stskeepsnot attending, i'm going to enjoy my holiday :)19:55
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Stskeepswill be watching the fireworks from a hotel room with a big beer in my hand19:56
Stskeeps:P19:56
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r0kk3rzsounds like a fair trade19:56
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dr_gogeta86wireworks as a joy or as a war20:39
dr_gogeta86?20:39
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pdanekMWC in 3 days, do you expect announcement of new device?20:48
pdanekNew device partner from India.20:49
pdanekUnfortunately not China, they make terrific phones.20:49
r0kk3rzunsure whether we will see a new device or not20:50
r0kk3rzseems logical to have something to show along with the os announcement20:50
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pdanekBut Indian smartphone? meh20:51
pdanekI want top-end Jolla device :D20:52
pdanekLike Ubuntu has its Meizu.20:52
r0kk3rzyeah but you have to start somewhere20:53
r0kk3rzi havent seen an indian phone to really judge20:53
r0kk3rzand it might be a moot point as it may not be available outside of india20:54
pdanekright20:54
pdanekso we might still need Jolla 220:54
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pdanekAsus ZenFone 2 has 4G RAM21:03
pdanekwow21:03
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pdanekhttp://unleashthephones.com/2015/01/17/micromax-yu-yureka-review/21:10
pdanekMicromax Yu brand smartphone, doesn't look bad at all.21:11
pdanekThat would be sufficient as Jolla 2.21:11
pdanek(Indian company, rumored to be the company making Sailfish devices)21:11
r0kk3rzthats simo's pick, but i think thats wishful thinking21:11
r0kk3rzthey already sell cyanogenmod phones21:12
r0kk3rzand there are several indian OEMs to choose from, most of which i know nothing about21:12
pdanekright21:13
pdanekBut Yureka looks like something I would definitely buy with Sailfish21:13
pdanekclean phone design, high end specs21:13
r0kk3rznot arguing there21:14
fluxno nfc either, which is perfect for Sailfish :P21:15
dr_gogeta86yu are pretty supported on aosp and cm roms21:15
dr_gogeta86as well some miui ports21:16
pdanek2Which fits sailfish in terms of porting?21:16
r0kk3rzadmittedly cyanogen supported phones21:16
dr_gogeta86pdanek2, f* good21:17
pdanek2MIUI, right, Xiaomi is very popular in Indian21:17
pdanek2India*21:17
dr_gogeta86i've saw unofficial ports21:17
pdanek2Yureka is the best that Sailfish community can wish for21:18
r0kk3rzdoes look nice21:18
r0kk3rzbigger higher dpi screen, and decent spec bump is all thats needed though21:18
r0kk3rzcompared to jphone that is21:19
pdanek2And it doesn't have bullshit design21:19
pdanek2Fits with simplicity if sailfish21:19
pdanek2Really clean looking phone21:19
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sakustarall we really need is a qwerty phone before the day the tohs die ;p21:41
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sakustarwhy has no one brought them back21:41
r0kk3rzthey've tried, and nobody has bought them21:56
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Nicd-so... first part of my summer holiday already over and afaik no info about new sfos manufacturer?22:04
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pdanekNicd-: We should all get hyped for Yu Yureka with Sailfih OS.22:13
pdanek:D22:14
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bennypr0faneHey guys, I can't activate developer mode in Aslaakajärvi. I might have this: https://together.jolla.com/question/89476/cannot-re-enable-developer-mode/ except I could never enable it in the first place. I come from a fresh reset and directly upgrading to current release.22:35
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bennypr0faneBasically, after I tap "enable developer mode" in system settings, I get to agree to conditions, then the little white bar progresses to about one fifth of the length, and that's it, nothing moves before the screen blackens. When I switch it on again, it's either still frozen progress bar or back to square one: "enable dev mode", while events view contains a notification: "enabling dev mode failed, problem with jolla store". If I o22:57
bennypr0fanepen Jolla store, it says "package jolla-developer-mode was not found in store"22:57
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