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| citylight2 | hi, well, after the last OS update the only missing feature I seek is mark and copy text from a webpage | 08:18 |
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| tadzik | oh, don't worry, I have some :> | 08:21 |
| ggabriel | i believe that feature is already there, but on the open source version | 08:21 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ggabriel: not sure. coderus have some patches, and a bleeding edge browser for this feature | 08:22 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but not sure that it got integrated | 08:22 |
| ggabriel | oh, so it's bleeding edge browser + patches | 08:22 |
| ggabriel | fair enough | 08:22 |
| ggabriel | it wasn't working 100% when I saw it though, somebody made a video | 08:23 |
| ggabriel | looked cool tho | 08:23 |
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| coderus | ggabriel: just install patchmanager and warehouse and install many cool patches | 08:52 |
| ggabriel | citylight2: ^ | 08:52 |
| ggabriel | :P | 08:52 |
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| citylight2 | hmm, ggabriel. how long untill it is formally released? | 08:59 |
| ggabriel | I have no clue | 09:00 |
| coderus | citylight2: what you asking about? | 09:01 |
| ggabriel | stock browser copy/paste is the topic coderus | 09:02 |
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| coderus | ggabriel: who knows when it come, even jolla devs don't know this. | 09:06 |
| coderus | this is most long developed feature i know. | 09:07 |
| ggabriel | the future in motion is mmmm | 09:07 |
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| birdzhang | Is sailfish support webp ? | 10:24 |
| coderus | birdzhang: by default it may not contain codecs you want, but it linux device, and you can compile and install required codecs yourself! | 10:27 |
| birdzhang | yeah,i see https://github.com/facebook/fresco ,it's only support android,so i want to know is sailfish support webp | 10:30 |
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| coderus | i think browser engine support this, but no libs for support it in your apps here | 10:40 |
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| birdzhang | i will try | 11:14 |
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| rubdos | Where in Asia does Jolla sell their gear atm? | 12:18 |
| rubdos | Hong Kong and India, am I right? | 12:18 |
| ggabriel | india, china, russia | 12:18 |
| rubdos | whole China? | 12:18 |
| ggabriel | and when i say china, i include hk | 12:18 |
| ggabriel | erm... not sure how extensive it is in china | 12:18 |
| pp | and when you say china, you exclude tablets ;) | 12:18 |
| ggabriel | pp: that's correct | 12:19 |
| ggabriel | and when i say whatever, i exclude everything that's out of stock too | 12:19 |
| rubdos | roger | 12:20 |
| rubdos | thank you | 12:20 |
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| FIQ | oh look, tohkbd just arrived | 12:45 |
| kimmoli | FIQ: please join #jollatohkbd | 12:45 |
| Nicd- | jealous :( | 12:45 |
| kimmoli | busy with FAQ | 12:46 |
| ggabriel | but but | 12:47 |
| ggabriel | why U not work?! :) | 12:47 |
| birdzhang-jolla | 😍 | 12:48 |
| birdzhang-jolla | Awesome | 12:48 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | I guess that AZERTY will come much later | 12:49 |
| SfietKonstantinW | thanks kimmoli, dirkvl and all for your hard work ! | 12:50 |
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| tadzik | first impressions? :) | 12:52 |
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| ggabriel | i don't have it and i'm impressed that they included an rfc tag | 12:53 |
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| ggabriel | so it's being done properly | 12:53 |
| Nicd- | nfc :) | 12:53 |
| ggabriel | argh | 12:53 |
| ggabriel | nfc ofc | 12:53 |
| ggabriel | clearly i've been doing too much intrenetting lately | 12:53 |
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| inte__ | is there any app for jolla which connects to heart rate monitors or gps watches | 13:18 |
| inte__ | such as runtastic? | 13:18 |
| ggabriel | i think bluetooth ones work | 13:19 |
| ggabriel | i use meerun, go to tmo, check the meerun thread, i think people said there what worked for them | 13:20 |
| ggabriel | the jolla has a gps fwiw :P | 13:20 |
| inte__ | ah cool thx | 13:20 |
| inte__ | its only that bluetooth doesnt work for android apps | 13:21 |
| inte__ | or does it, meanwhile? | 13:21 |
| ggabriel | i have no clue | 13:21 |
| ggabriel | i use meerun, which is a sailfish native application that you can get from warehouse/openrepos | 13:21 |
| inte__ | i have meerun installed | 13:21 |
| inte__ | but is there any way to connect a heart rate monitor? | 13:22 |
| inz | at least it is listed in features | 13:23 |
| inte__ | cool just saw it | 13:23 |
| inte__ | always better to read first :-) | 13:23 |
| flux | yes, is there a meerun/jolla-compatible heart rate monitor available? | 13:24 |
| flux | "To be able to monitor your heart rate, you will need a Bluetooth (non-smart) device (Zephy HxM BT, Polar Wearlink+, ...). Sports Tracker devices have been reported to work but are not officially supported" | 13:25 |
| inte__ | yes, yes :-) | 13:26 |
| inte__ | i once installed the app and didn't read further | 13:26 |
| inte__ | there is no actual mention of the heart rate monitoring within the app, though | 13:27 |
| inte__ | to my excuse :-) | 13:27 |
| flux | is the polar wearlink+ any good? | 13:28 |
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| ggabriel | inte__: i don't use hr monitors, so i won't be able to help i'm afraid | 13:47 |
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| krosos | hello, i've got a short question. which package application does jolla use to remove/install packages? is it apkd? if so, where do I find a man page on this? I just need to remove one application installed via warehouse, but warehouse, when listing all packages just freezes. | 14:00 |
| ggabriel | krosos: pkcon | 14:01 |
| coderus | krosos: pkcon | 14:01 |
| coderus | :D | 14:01 |
| ggabriel | coderus: I win :P | 14:01 |
| krosos | thanks! | 14:02 |
| * coderus sends fireball to ggabriel | 14:02 | |
| krosos | apkd is android support iirc, right? | 14:02 |
| * ggabriel saves the fireball in an insulated place for when it's cold | 14:02 | |
| chem|st | krosos: warehouse is a pita for uninstalling anything | 14:02 |
| chem|st | krosos: and yes apkd is android | 14:03 |
| krosos | for a while it was okay, now it's just refusing to work, so ssh into the phone is quicker | 14:03 |
| chem|st | krosos: we are in a rpm environment, so you have pkcon rpm libzyp | 14:03 |
| coderus | krosos: btw, when warehouse is freezing just close it when not responding and relaunch | 14:07 |
| chem|st | coderus: the "list all apps" page always freezes | 14:07 |
| krosos | yes, i know, but this is a freeze which is non-fixable. freezes when listing all apps | 14:07 |
| ggabriel | i'm kinda glad that i use openrepos directly and download the rpm's | 14:08 |
| krosos | some minutes are okay, but after 10 - 30 minutes I give up | 14:08 |
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| flux | meh, polar h7 would be nice BLE + 5KHz heart rate monitor, but I guess given the sorry state of BLE on Jolla, MeeRun won't support it either :P | 14:11 |
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| temmi_hoo | too bad you'll run out of nyquist at roughly 150kbpm | 14:12 |
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| Helle | flux: I've gotten HRM access working for native apps with some tricks | 14:12 |
| flux | helle, bluetooth le? I'm quite doubtful about that.. | 14:13 |
| Helle | flux: yep, to a Mio HRM watch | 14:13 |
| Helle | I mean it was just a proof of concept so far | 14:13 |
| temmi_hoo | so how does the watch perform when you're sweaty and bouncywouncy? | 14:13 |
| temmi_hoo | pro athletes use those monitoring bands and i'm guessing there's a reason as they're annoying as hell | 14:14 |
| krosos | okay, the warehouse *patch* packages are not always named patch? with rpm -qa | grep patch there's not everything listed I installed, and phonehook(?) is not listed as phonehook | 14:14 |
| flux | helle, I think there's technically no problem for using BLE from MeeRun either as long as you have the right library in particular now that there is ble in the most recent qt (? and even if there isn't there is a library to give it), but I think meerun just doesn't quite yet support it | 14:15 |
| flux | helle, so it's some particular program you wrote that works with the watch? | 14:15 |
| Helle | flux: well, HRM is a standard Bluetooth LE profile | 14:15 |
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| krosos | okay, openrepos.net lists the names. that works | 14:16 |
| krosos | is there an -pretend function like with emerge/portage? I have not used rpm in a long time | 14:18 |
| flux | helle, good, but it doesn't solve the bluetooth le infrastructure side on Jolla.. does it exist? I think ble device scanning in particular would need one to have root priviledges. | 14:18 |
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| Helle | flux: yeah, I've got a helper for it and some things like that | 14:19 |
| Helle | it won't be a Harbour app for quite some time | 14:19 |
| flux | helle, so it's not quite "out of the box" experience yet :) | 14:19 |
| flux | meerun isn't in harbour either so I guess that's alright. | 14:19 |
| flux | helle, I guess you're planning to patch MeeRun to support it as well? or just use a separate program for hrm? | 14:20 |
| Helle | flux: I actually was planning a different app because I need it for cycling and MeeRun just does tons of things I don't need and some things I do need aren't in it | 14:21 |
| flux | I use it for cycling as well :) | 14:22 |
| flux | but doesn't that sound like a bigger job to write a whole meerun-limited-to-cycling versus integrating to meerun's HRM support? | 14:22 |
| flux | not to mention, maybe more generally applicaple and greater chances of completing, or perhaps your projects survive better than mine.. :-) | 14:23 |
| Helle | flux: idk I am not a fan of apps having a Pro version either | 14:24 |
| krosos | so with version 1.1.4.29 openrepos repos no longer must be disabled before sysupgrade? that's what i read from the latest upgrade notes in 1.1.6 | 14:24 |
| Helle | so yeah, I am probably just going to make my own app | 14:24 |
| flux | helle, what are you talking about? there is meerun pro? | 14:24 |
| Helle | yep | 14:24 |
| Helle | I think only on Android, with the features all being in the normal app on Jolla | 14:25 |
| flux | well it sure has lousy google visibility.. | 14:25 |
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| Helle | or atleast looking on the website there is now | 14:25 |
| Helle | another reason for me to not bother with them | 14:25 |
| flux | ok, so they provide an internet view to the data as a service | 14:26 |
| flux | seems like a feature to me :-o | 14:26 |
| flux | I'm not sure where the "Pro" part comes in | 14:26 |
| Mikaela | krosos: that is what I also understood and I would like to have confirmation too | 14:26 |
| flux | helle, btw, is your program already available somewhere? | 14:27 |
| krosos | i'm not sure, it might be that the last early release update I already had the repos back and did it without thinking about it, so it might work like this | 14:27 |
| Helle | flux: I can probably throw it on a github, it currently just shows that Bluetooth LE + HRM works and displays current HR | 14:28 |
| flux | helle, works on Linux PC too as well I imagine? | 14:28 |
| Helle | but later as I need to actually go finish doing stuff for uni and then go for an hour or two cycling when the sun decides to calm down a little | 14:28 |
| Helle | flux: yep, originally wrote it for there, then just trivially ported it | 14:29 |
| flux | helle, yes, I encourage you to make it available :) | 14:29 |
| flux | helle, have a nice ride. | 14:29 |
| Yaniel | openrepos repos being enabled is no problem, some often installed patches are | 14:29 |
| flux | oh now I found the PRO version on the meerun.com/#!app, including HRM (for non-jolla platforms it seems) | 14:31 |
| krosos | sailfishos-phoneui-merge-calls-patch-0.1-6.armv7hl would be a patch I assume? I've no idea where patchmanager went, this is what I got via rpm listing, no idea if jolla has official patches named like this | 14:31 |
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| chem|st | krosos: no idea but the guy behind it should be punched until he cahnges the package name! | 14:33 |
| krosos | they are all named like this | 14:34 |
| chem|st | in rpm there are packages,patches,sources so no idea how you actually determine something like that if the name is not already telling it properly | 14:34 |
| krosos | just opened a page on openrepos, calendar patch: sailfishos-calendar-patch-$version.rpm | 14:34 |
| chem|st | if it is a patchmanager plugin why not call it patchmanager-plugin-$what_is_it_for-version | 14:36 |
| krosos | yeah, no idea why.. | 14:36 |
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| chem|st | I guess you can tell by the sailfishos in the front of package name is all non-jolla stuff | 14:38 |
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| svuorela | christmas comes early this time of year - thanks dirkvl and kimmoli | 17:16 |
| kimmoli | o/ | 17:17 |
| entil | yeah, thanks! | 17:17 |
| svuorela | it does feel heavier - and quite a bit thicker .. | 17:19 |
| entil | no leaked beta drivers?-) | 17:20 |
| entil | I love it | 17:20 |
| entil | I hate how small phones of today are, so ymmv all around | 17:21 |
| r0kk3rz | the magnets probably weigh a bit | 17:26 |
| tbr | entil: if by "leaked" you mean, there have been builds of the open source software on OBS for the last half year, yeah | 17:27 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah kimmoli has been rather covert about the whole thing | 17:27 |
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| entil | probably to avoid a ton of support requests | 17:31 |
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| TemeV | uuh, happy birthday to me (one day early though). Thanks dirkvl! :) | 18:50 |
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| kimmoli | TemeV: cgrts | 18:54 |
| kimmoli | and thqnkw | 18:54 |
| kimmoli | thanks | 18:54 |
| r0kk3rz | keyboards for everyone! | 19:01 |
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| TemeV | kimmoli: and thank you too! (Now that I got the sw working also) :) | 19:07 |
| Obi-Lan | tohkbd half sit in &%¤&% tight | 19:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | kinda needs to for the pogo pins to work | 19:20 |
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| Raim | hey, I installed harbour-systemmonitor from OpenRepos, but the systemd unit file is not loaded. any hints how I can debug this? | 21:38 |
| Raim | I checked 'systemctl status harbour-systemmonitord.service' and get "Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)" | 21:39 |
| Raim | but /usr/lib/systemd/user/harbour-systemmonitord.service exists | 21:39 |
| Raim | I also tried a 'systemctl daemon-reload', but there is nothing in journalctl about this... | 21:39 |
| kimmoli | systemctl --user status har... | 21:42 |
| kimmoli | or as ruun systemctl-user status har... | 21:42 |
| kimmoli | Ä'root | 21:42 |
| Raim | duh, thanks | 21:44 |
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| Raim | 'systemctl --user enable harbour-systemmonitord.service' => "Failed to issue method call: No such file or directory" | 21:46 |
| Raim | these error messages are not that helpful | 21:46 |
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| Raim | okay, figured it out. it was a permission problem on ~/.config/systemd/, which was owned by root for whatever reason. | 21:56 |
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| FIQ | is there a way to disable input suggestion field? | 23:33 |
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| FIQ | I never used it in any of the devices I've had with it, and it just feels in the way, so I always disable it.. but can't find a way to on the jolla lol | 23:34 |
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