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| Venemo_j | hm, I suddenly have 4G on my jolla | 06:25 |
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| Venemo_j | very suspicious | 06:25 |
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| Stskeeps | maybe mobile provider upgraded you | 06:31 |
| Venemo_j | maybe they did | 06:32 |
| Venemo_j | :) | 06:32 |
| Stskeeps | i love LTE, the low latencies are quite nice | 06:34 |
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| Venemo_j | indeed | 06:35 |
| Venemo_j | pretty cool | 06:35 |
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| Venemo_j | but how's power consumption? | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | sometimes it feels better since latency is lower on web requests | 06:35 |
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| pp | hrmn, this is weird, my mac now gets ipv6 from my cable operator, but my linux desktop (and jolla over wlan) don't... | 07:47 |
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| pp | some dhcpv6 thing apparently, but seems to need some magic to get it to serve something | 07:47 |
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| mornfall | pp: you want radvd actually | 07:56 |
| mornfall | pp: wait, you mean mac as a osx box... behind the same router as the rest? | 07:58 |
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| pp | bridging so it's all from the operator router | 08:22 |
| pp | tcpdumping shows some dhcpv6 action from the mac so that's why I suspect I might need it | 08:22 |
| pp | (used to have radvd + tunnel running locally) | 08:22 |
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| pp | but then again it's all not supposed to work "yet", so might be in some pseudo-state | 08:23 |
| mornfall | dhcpv6 is odd | 08:23 |
| mornfall | is your ISP doing v4 NAT on their side? | 08:23 |
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| Mikaela | I think Jolla doesn't support IPv6 tethering yet, but hwne it does, I think it should use SLAAC + the DHCP bit to ask DHCP for other information including DNS servers | 08:30 |
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| * pahartik notices "Jolla Mobile IPv6" | 08:51 | |
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| pp | 5 real ips, nat by cable box if you want | 09:12 |
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| Acce | pahartik: https://blog.nytsoi.net/2015/05/20/the-future-is-now-ipv6-dual-stack-with-sailfish | 10:26 |
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| pahartik | Acce: Acknowledged | 11:09 |
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| pahartik | Acce: I should probably upgrade "Sailfish Linux" to latest version | 11:12 |
| tadzik | Hmm, how does OOM app killer actually work? Try swapping, and if that doesn't work kill it with fire? | 11:14 |
| tadzik | It's recently hard for me to even hit 9 apps at the same time, especially when android apps are involved, perhaps bigger swap would help ? | 11:16 |
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| Nicd- | I can't even use 3 apps + browser for more than 15 minutes | 11:18 |
| tadzik | If time matters it seems like something's leaking memort | 11:20 |
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| Tegu | and sometimes it kills other apps on the background (nice to find the irc client being killed after browsing for example). sometimes it just goes all out and kills every app | 11:47 |
| Nicd- | it never seems to kill the phone app for me though | 11:50 |
| Nicd- | maybe that's special somehow | 11:50 |
| Tegu | might be. I only have it open when I'm calling so I don't know | 11:51 |
| tadzik | Makes sense for it to be special | 11:51 |
| Acce | afaik the phone function processes have über priority | 12:01 |
| Acce | yesterday I was listening something from youtube and recording a track, I got a call and both were killed instantly | 12:02 |
| * cb400f sends good vibrations in the general direction of the TOHKBD team | 12:02 | |
| Acce | it's somehow over emphasized, probably because people have missed calls when the calling functions started too slowly when low on memory | 12:03 |
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| Nicd- | I always keep the phone app open, it's quicker to call that way | 12:04 |
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| tadzik | Ehh, no matter how many times I remove and add my twitter account, it still shows me content from 2 months ago | 12:18 |
| tadzik | Is this debuggable? | 12:18 |
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| rsz | hi, after the update to latest sailfish release, I have got this http://postimg.org/image/47aa596pp/ can this be resolved somehow? | 12:55 |
| rsz | also my hindi font on the phone also broke, tried installing couple of times, but the phone restarts with red (once) and green lights blinking.. | 12:56 |
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| cb400f | rsz: what happens if you "long tap" those exclamation marks and re-add those settings shortcuts (also by long tap) | 13:27 |
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| rsz | it says remove from favorite | 13:27 |
| rsz | should I? | 13:28 |
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| cb400f | worth a try, you can re-add favourites by long-tapping your favourite settings modules | 13:30 |
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| cb400f | hopefully when you re-add them to favourites they will have their proper look | 13:31 |
| rsz | after long tapping & removing... the ui has become normal! :-) thanks cb400f !! | 13:32 |
| rsz | can you help with this: http://postimg.org/image/4q3p069lr ? | 13:32 |
| rsz | everytime I install the rpm or pkcon, the phone reboot. | 13:33 |
| cb400f | which rpm are you installing? .. maybe it has some reboot thingy in the post installation scripts | 13:34 |
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| rsz | this one: https://openrepos.net/sites/default/files/packages/657/abki-lohit-ttf-fonts-1.0-4.armv7hl.rpm from here: https://openrepos.net/content/abyzthomas/indian-language-fonts-sailfish | 13:35 |
| rsz | I tried installing 3-4 times, first time it rebooted with a red light blinking, after that every install post reboot, I got green light blinking | 13:36 |
| rsz | but the keyboard font never got installed... | 13:37 |
| Mikaela | does Aptoidewant to update Facebook and then complain about "no apk found" for anyone else? | 13:37 |
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| rsz | cb400f: another screen shot indicating an unnamed text input keyboard: http://postimg.org/image/75dy3kjdr | 13:43 |
| cb400f | hmm... those openrepo thingies are not "official", tested stuff | 13:45 |
| cb400f | does 'rpm -q abki-lohit-ttf-font' imply that the package is installed? | 13:45 |
| rsz | it worked fine on older sailfish versions, the current version somehow misconfigured it... | 13:46 |
| rsz | it says not installed | 13:47 |
| rsz | rpm -qa | grep lohit also returns nothing. | 13:48 |
| cb400f | hmm.. maybe get in touch with the package maintainer if possible, and ask him to update the package for the latest Sailfish | 13:50 |
| rsz | ok.. thanks for the help! :-) | 13:50 |
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| FIQ | Hi, is there a way to disable a WPA password for internet sharing on the jolla? | 15:42 |
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| FIQ | I tried to simply blank the field, which just resulted in "The password must be at least 8 characters long" | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | don't think so | 15:44 |
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| FIQ | hm... why not | 15:47 |
| FIQ | seems a bit silly but w/e | 15:47 |
| FIQ | thanks anyway! | 15:47 |
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| lloydbraun | Hi, anybody around? | 16:39 |
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| Sail0r | FIQ: why should anyone want unprocted internet sharing? | 16:43 |
| Sail0r | so anyone can use your volume | 16:44 |
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| Mikaela | https://openwireless.org/ is one thing that comes to mind and maybe quickly letting someone access the internet or testing some WLAN issue if it happens with only encryption are some things that come to mind | 16:47 |
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| lloydbraun | Is there a good method for tri-booting Android, Sailfish, and Ubuntu Touch? | 17:05 |
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| locusf | lloydbraun: which device? | 17:06 |
| lloydbraun | locusf: I have Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4, but I'm willing to get a different device too. | 17:07 |
| locusf | I wonder if gnexus has multiboot | 17:07 |
| locusf | err multirom | 17:08 |
| lloydbraun | locusf: doesn't look good: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/help/multirom-t3031959 | 17:08 |
| lloydbraun | locusf: is multirom required in order to dual-boot or tri-boot? | 17:09 |
| locusf | lloydbraun: afaik yes | 17:09 |
| lloydbraun | I could use the Nexus 4 np. | 17:09 |
| lloydbraun | Is Nexus 5 or 6 better supported? | 17:09 |
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| locusf | nexus 4 and 5 could be equal | 17:10 |
| locusf | nexus 5 is the prime target though | 17:10 |
| lloydbraun | locusf: you mean equally well supported? | 17:10 |
| locusf | gnexus multirom isn't supported | 17:10 |
| locusf | lloydbraun: yes | 17:10 |
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| locusf | I don't remember correctly | 17:10 |
| locusf | lloydbraun: visit #sailfishos-porters for details | 17:11 |
| lloydbraun | locusf: by prime target you mean most actively developed? Is support there as good as he Nexus 4 currently? | 17:11 |
| locusf | lloydbraun: yeah, though I don't know if n4 support has been as active as n5 | 17:11 |
| lloydbraun | locusf: you would go with N5 overall? | 17:12 |
| lloydbraun | Does anything work on the Jolla phone that doesn't work on N5? | 17:12 |
| locusf | lloydbraun: personally yes | 17:12 |
| locusf | lloydbraun: android support, camera isn't as good but is experimentally supported | 17:12 |
| locusf | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 17:13 |
| locusf | for full support table | 17:13 |
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| lloydbraun | locusf: not sure whether to grab the Jolla phone or dual-boot on what I have now | 17:16 |
| lloydbraun | I want to give it a fair evaluation but it looks like the ports aren't great with hardware | 17:17 |
| locusf | lloydbraun: Jolla phone :) | 17:17 |
| locusf | if its available to you | 17:17 |
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| lloydbraun | locusf: I'm headed to Spain very soon | 17:17 |
| lloydbraun | Is the Jolla phone sweet? | 17:18 |
| locusf | and your home country has the gsm bands | 17:18 |
| lloydbraun | I'm in the US. Which bands? | 17:18 |
| locusf | ok | 17:18 |
| locusf | then its 2g only | 17:18 |
| lloydbraun | locusf: for sure? | 17:21 |
| locusf | yep | 17:21 |
| lloydbraun | what a drag | 17:22 |
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| lloydbraun | locusf: but ported Sailfish work at 3G in the US? | 17:23 |
| locusf | lloydbraun: afaik yes | 17:23 |
| locusf | jcbjoe: you remember n4 working for you? | 17:24 |
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| lloydbraun | locusf: can I install Sailfish to dual-boot alongside he current Android install on my Nexus 4 without wiping it? | 17:34 |
| locusf | lloydbraun: don't get me wrong, the porting effort has been going on for a year in July since hadk was released, its has been steadily progressing to more better support | 17:35 |
| locusf | lloydbraun: nope, you have to use cm10/11 as your base os | 17:35 |
| coderus | no multirom? | 17:35 |
| locusf | hmm ah yes | 17:36 |
| locusf | well | 17:36 |
| locusf | to be honest, I don't know as I've not used multirom | 17:36 |
| lloydbraun | Are multirom and CM substitutes? | 17:36 |
| coderus | lloydbraun: #sailfishos-porters | 17:37 |
| locusf | again, don't know :) | 17:37 |
| locusf | yeah thats the main channel for this :) | 17:37 |
| locusf | though many of us hang around here too, there are some more knowledgeable individuals than me there :) | 17:38 |
| lloydbraun | OK thanks guys, I think I'll try to switch back to my Galaxy Nexus as my "working" phone and tri-boot the Nexus 4 with Android, Sailfish, and Ubuntu. N4 looks like have better support than GN. | 17:38 |
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| * Stskeeps yawns | 18:09 | |
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| * svuorela hands Stskeeps a cup of coffee | 18:30 | |
| Stskeeps | thanks, much needed | 18:32 |
| kimmoli | potion number 12648430 | 18:34 |
| temmi_moo | love potion number 9 | 18:34 |
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| tiwake | love poison song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocWWaPZ_M2s | 20:02 |
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| Mag-en00b | encountered a ringtone bug: tried to use a short audio clip as message ringtone, but it appears that OGG and MP3 that are <9sec long bug out the audio system for a short time. WAVs of any length work. test files for reproducibility: http://gima.iki.fi/random/Short_Ringtone_Test.zip | 22:55 |
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| Mag-en00b | there really needs to be a bug tracker | 23:00 |
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| coderus | Mag-en00b: together.jolla.com | 23:12 |
| Mag-en00b | as i understand that's a place for feature requests to be voted, and then the developers act on the most-voted features. leaving a bug report there that affects only a handful of people would need me, in addition to doing that, to rally a support group of people to vote for my bug report for the developers to even take a look at that | 23:15 |
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| coderus | Mag-en00b: post bug in tjc and promote it here and in #sailfishos | 23:19 |
| Mag-en00b | ook. by promoting, you mean to just post url to it? | 23:19 |
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| Mag-en00b | promoting bug report: "Short MP3,OGG notification tones dont work": https://together.jolla.com/question/93965/bug-short-9sec-mp3-and-ogg-dont-work-as-notification-tones/ | 23:36 |
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| FIQ | <Sail0r> [16:44:06] FIQ: why should anyone want unprocted internet sharing? | 23:55 |
| FIQ | messing with legacy devices | 23:55 |
| FIQ | obviously having open wifi normally is a terrible idea | 23:55 |
| FIQ | but imo should be possible to do if you really want to | 23:55 |
| FIQ | but w/e | 23:56 |
| TemeV | I guess it is possible via terminal | 23:59 |
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