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| Nicd- | http://hurrdurr.org/ | 07:04 |
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| Nicd- | linux is dead. long live the hurr durr | 07:04 |
| TemeV | :D | 07:08 |
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| jaacoppi | gnu hurr durr. Prepare your tin foil hats. | 09:35 |
| entil | http://new2.fjcdn.com/comments/I+tried+i+need+to+name+my+files+better+_a7b8ffa825a715401aaa85aa9e3ce7b0.jpg | 09:36 |
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| anandrkris | dalcde - you could have locked this long long ago :) https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/130 | 12:40 |
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| anandrkris | Oops..wrong window :( | 12:44 |
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| Nicd- | Stskeeps: I hope this new memory chip is taken into account when you plan jolla's next device: http://repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/25120-bw.pdf | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:29 |
| kimmoli | just fast enough cpu, and πfs | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | i want memristors | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:31 |
| ggabriel | i want one of those | 13:31 |
| sharpneli | Memristors and power consumption. Ewww :E | 13:33 |
| sharpneli | No reversible computation on those | 13:33 |
| ggabriel | i loved max typical | 13:34 |
| ggabriel | that I will say in one meeting one day and it will pass as smart talk | 13:35 |
| temmi_hoo | pifs? yet another pre-beta fs, this time with moar cool and internal snmpd? | 13:36 |
| Nicd- | temmi_hoo: https://github.com/philipl/pifs | 13:37 |
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| temmi_hoo | apparently i'm already loving it | 13:47 |
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| ggabriel | apparently google has been doing this for years, but they use e | 13:49 |
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| temmi_hoo | vihart uses tau | 13:52 |
| ggabriel | wait - upper case or lower case? | 13:52 |
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| temmi_hoo | https://www.youtube.com/user/Vihart | 13:53 |
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| scottc | temmi_hoo: this is so cool | 14:01 |
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| schoppenhauer | hello. is it possible to revoke app permissions of android apps in sailfish os? (like many privacy-enhanced android ROMs allow) | 17:27 |
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| r0kk3rz | schoppenhauer: not as yet | 17:30 |
| schoppenhauer | r0kk3rz: why not? | 17:30 |
| r0kk3rz | because it hasnt been implemented yet? | 17:30 |
| schoppenhauer | can't I add another user and run the apps in a dalvik as this user? | 17:30 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont think so | 17:31 |
| r0kk3rz | the last update moved dalvik into a chroot | 17:33 |
| schoppenhauer | meh | 17:33 |
| r0kk3rz | so we will probably see some more permissions related stuff in the future | 17:33 |
| sjtoik | there was some debate over the matter quite some time ago, but i think it was left unresolved | 17:37 |
| sjtoik | there is just too many ways to do privacy restrictions and all of them has some drawbacks | 17:37 |
| merlin1991 | aegis !! | 17:37 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 17:37 |
| * merlin1991 invokes Cthulhu | 17:38 | |
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| r0kk3rz | we'll see what special can come up with for the security model | 17:39 |
| cityLights | how can I stop a service on a systemd host from a python script | 17:40 |
| cityLights | ? | 17:40 |
| merlin1991 | import subprocess | 17:40 |
| cityLights | I figured dbus | 17:40 |
| merlin1991 | subprocess.check_call(['systemctl', 'stop', 'someservice.service']) | 17:41 |
| merlin1991 | or maybe there is some dbus api but I have nfc | 17:41 |
| merlin1991 | I can't even filter down journalctl to what I want to see on the jolla ... | 17:41 |
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| merlin1991 | I managed to find the _PID=X filter, but that is such a hassel | 17:41 |
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| merlin1991 | cityLights: but even if there is a dbus api, unless you do other stuff via dbus I wouldn't do it directly in python since you then need the glib loop and friends for nothing | 17:43 |
| cityLights | I see | 17:43 |
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| Stskeeps | https://blog.jolla.com/design-insights-sailfish-os/ | 17:44 |
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| * attah looks at https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=838 | 18:02 | |
| merbot | Mer bug 838 in .Project-core "ciphering indicator API" [Normal,New] | 18:02 |
| M4rtinK | so just in case - new modRana has been released: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1466493#post1466493 | 18:02 |
| M4rtinK | finally with online routing support on Sailfish OS :) | 18:03 |
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| r0kk3rz | is it just me, or does merbot give out the wrong URL | 18:28 |
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| attah | How does one escape a "!" in BASH? :S | 18:56 |
| Mikaela | \!? | 18:56 |
| attah | nope.. it prints the backslash | 18:57 |
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| attah | (in echo "\!?" for example) | 18:57 |
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| toerb | attah: try it without " or with ' | 19:02 |
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| attah | toerb: had tried ', but without seems to do the trick, thanks! | 19:03 |
| attah | Mikaela: i guess you meant that and i ws just slow? :P | 19:04 |
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| Mikaela | I meant \! without quotes, but quotes probably work | 19:05 |
| Mikaela | % echo \! | 19:05 |
| Mikaela | ! | 19:05 |
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| Xiph | gday | 19:06 |
| attah | i was coming from a string with quotes.. and for some reason ! won't escape if quoted | 19:06 |
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| temmi_hoo | you need to be pretty careful when passing around strings with special characters | 19:08 |
| temmi_hoo | escaping and de-escaping and quoting and dequoting | 19:08 |
| temmi_hoo | ... or script using some sane language | 19:08 |
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| attah | temmi_hoo: just playing manually | 19:13 |
| temmi_hoo | this will be a valuable lesson | 19:14 |
| attah | i guess so :) | 19:14 |
| temmi_hoo | next time when your thoughts start to diverge like "i'll just quickly shell-script it", DON'T | 19:15 |
| attah | :P | 19:15 |
| attah | actually i'm playing with AT commands on my jolla | 19:16 |
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| temmi_hoo | at commands make me think it's 1987 again | 19:18 |
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| attah | isn't it? | 19:19 |
| attah | i mean 1984 has come and gone it seems | 19:20 |
| dr_gogeta86 | at command how ? | 19:20 |
| attah | /dev/smd7 | 19:20 |
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| Xiph | any qt/qml gurus here? | 19:52 |
| Xiph | can anyone tell me how to run a function when a page is pushed to pageStack? | 19:52 |
| Xiph | I mean, when the page appear | 19:52 |
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| Xiph | can't find a suiting signal | 19:56 |
| attah | i am a total noob on that.. but i'd assume onCompleted | 19:56 |
| attah | also.. i think #sailfishos is slightly better for those questions, that's where i beg for help anyway :) | 19:57 |
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| Xiph | ah, thanks attah, I'll try there | 19:57 |
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| Xiph | also, onCompleted doesn't seem to exist for Page | 19:58 |
| Xiph | thanks anyway | 19:58 |
| attah | worth a shot, sorry i couldn't be of more help | 19:58 |
| Xiph | np | 19:59 |
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| attah | Xiph: i think i found it! | 20:01 |
| Xiph | :) | 20:01 |
| attah | onSytatusChanged: | 20:01 |
| Xiph | mhm, yea that sounds like something | 20:02 |
| attah | and if on status==PageStatus.Active | 20:02 |
| * attah should not type function names | 20:02 | |
| attah | onStatusChanged of course | 20:02 |
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| Xiph | yes, that was exactly what I was looking for | 20:04 |
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| attah | great! | 20:05 |
| montezuma | Hey guys, I need to shamelessy ask my tjc question here: Does anybody know a workaround to make the alarm sound longer (i.e. playing an entire audio-file or similar)? It really bothers me, that it only lasts one minute (https://together.jolla.com/question/87414) | 20:05 |
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| attah | montezuma: i think i do | 20:08 |
| montezuma | Awesome! | 20:08 |
| attah | but on your own risk... | 20:08 |
| montezuma | attah: Meh, That's what a Jolla is for, isn't it? | 20:08 |
| attah | /usr/share/jolla-alarm-ui/pages/AlarmDialogBase.qml | 20:09 |
| attah | towards the end "interval: 60000" | 20:09 |
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| montezuma | Oh. Theres a whole directory for the clock UI that I missed. Great. | 20:12 |
| attah | well.. i have patched stuff in the past :P | 20:12 |
| attah | did it work? should i put in an answer on tjc? | 20:13 |
| montezuma | One second my wlan is a bit slow, even locally. | 20:14 |
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| montezuma | It works!! Absolutely fantastic. Now I can get to the point where the song is really great! Thanks a lot attah. Please add it to tjc! | 20:18 |
| attah | You are quite welcome! | 20:19 |
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| montezuma | By the way: If the audio-file is over, it starts again, if the time has not stopped. It does not snooze after the song. | 20:20 |
| Tofe | montezuma: are you really sure you use it as an alarm ? :) | 20:20 |
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| attah | montezuma: I'm looking in to it ;) | 20:23 |
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| montezuma | Tofe: It took me a solid minute to understand what you meant. Then I started laughing tears. Yes! Yes I do use it as an alarm. But I hate that it interrupts the song every morning right before it gets funny. | 20:23 |
| Tofe | oh, ok :) | 20:24 |
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| montezuma | attah: No need to, at least for me. I would say that I prefer it that way since I still have control when it should snooze/stop. | 20:27 |
| montezuma | Tofe: The song is youtu.be/vCiG7xoEb2Y btw, notice the 1 minute mark. | 20:28 |
| attah | montezuma: found it anyway.. /usr/share/ngfd/events.d/clock.ini | 20:28 |
| montezuma | Ah, I recognize that file. Thanks again. I will test it in the following days. Are you ok with already accepting your answer? | 20:32 |
| attah | by all means :) | 20:33 |
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| Xiph | are there no operators in this channel? | 20:38 |
| stephg | Xiph: why do you ask? | 20:39 |
| kimmoli | they are lurking... | 20:40 |
| stephg | always lurking | 20:40 |
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| Xiph | just curious | 20:41 |
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| zetaz | Hello there ! | 21:00 |
| phlixi | Hi zetaz | 21:00 |
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| zetaz | anyone knows of a web browser that have a "reader" mode : keeping only text and meaningful images, and throwing away what doesn't matters. And formating all so that it fits on the screen ? | 21:01 |
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| zetaz | or at least would have clues how to do it ? | 21:01 |
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| phlixi | doesnt firefox has such a mode? | 21:01 |
| zetaz | This would be great and fit very well with the gesture based interface of sailfish : tabs could be in a page one swipe away | 21:02 |
| zetaz | phlixi: firefox is an android only app right ? | 21:02 |
| phlixi | sure | 21:03 |
| zetaz | so it can't benefit from silica's interface... | 21:03 |
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| phlixi | well, you swipe to go to the "reader mode" (or whatever it is called), of course i understand you would prefer a native app :) | 21:03 |
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| zetaz | I thought a bit about it, but web is so complex, that I don't really know how to do it.. it is not just keeping text tags, as now everything is in HTML div's with CCS, or javascript generated... | 21:04 |
| r0kk3rz | jolla-browser uses gecko, so maybe you can play around with about:config | 21:05 |
| zetaz | phlixi: we got some discussion about this on jaakko's blog. I said I would take a look, but so far I didn't find a lot of things on how it's done... I assume firefox for android's code is open source, so could look there but I fear the complexity of it... | 21:06 |
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| zetaz | hi r0kk3rz ! do you have a clue at what to look in the config ? | 21:07 |
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| phlixi | i guess userstyles, in a greasemonkey/stylish way | 21:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | zetaz: no idea | 21:08 |
| phlixi | however, this would not be a tap for an article, but writing css for one page where you expect to read articels | 21:08 |
| phlixi | i do not know if it is possible to fork sailfish browser (no idea what licence it is) and if it is "easy" to add the reader mode maybe its already half there, maybe nothing of it is with gecko | 21:09 |
| zetaz | r0kk3rz: just opened it... that is a holy list of parameters ! ;) | 21:10 |
| phlixi | but there are some alternative browsers, you might want to have alok atthem and check wether they have such a feature, or somthing similar | 21:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | zetaz: yeah theres a few, no idea if any of that helps you though, so good luck | 21:13 |
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| zetaz | r0kk3rz: thanks for the idea. We'll see what's in there. | 21:14 |
| phlixi | maybe a backup of the original file is not a bad idea | 21:14 |
| zetaz | phlixi: sure. | 21:14 |
| phlixi | i did not found a similar feature after a quick look at webcat | 21:16 |
| phlixi | maybe using an rss reader is an alternative for at least a subset of the occasions where you would like to use a reader-mode | 21:16 |
| phlixi | in the end this is the logical consequence to simply use the rss that is there anyway and to apply some default styles => that actually pretty much the definition of what an rss reader does | 21:17 |
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| zetaz | phlixi: There is not only news that would benefit from it. A wikipedia page for example. But for some website, using the rss feed is indeed a good idea. | 21:33 |
| phlixi | thats why i put "for at least a subset of the occasions" :-) | 21:33 |
| phlixi | i know its not perfect | 21:33 |
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| zetaz | I found out that the reader mode in firefox was introduced in firefox 38 nightly. It seems to use some javascript to do the work (ReaderMode.jsm) | 21:34 |
| zetaz | ^firefox desktop 38 nightly | 21:34 |
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| zetaz | so at some point it could be possible to test directly on PC how that works | 21:35 |
| fennekki | :OOOO | 21:35 |
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| fennekki | reader mode in desktop firefox? | 21:35 |
| fennekki | Finally! | 21:35 |
| zetaz | not yet out... they seem to talk about it for ages. | 21:35 |
| phlixi | i tried on my jolla, and its actually firefox 26 (should upgrade, but i do not use firefox on the jolla anyway...) | 21:35 |
| zetaz | fennekki: http://www.ghacks.net/2015/02/07/mozilla-starts-to-push-reader-mode-to-desktop-firefox/ | 21:35 |
| phlixi | ah, desktop... | 21:36 |
| phlixi | :-) | 21:36 |
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| phlixi | maybe you could hacj something together with a bookmarklet to convert the current page into a "reader page" with that js | 21:36 |
| phlixi | however, i have no idea if it is possible and if yes how to use something like bookmarklets (again, maybe some greasemonkey-style approach could work) | 21:37 |
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| zetaz | phlixi: a hack is what I am looking for right now, to make a proof of concept. I won't have the skill to do much more, if I can already do that. | 21:38 |
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| zetaz | I didn't know the word bookmarklets before you said it... not starting well ;) | 21:38 |
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| phlixi | little bit javascript in a bookmark | 21:42 |
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| phlixi | however i never really tried to do such thing in a mobile browser (would make a lot sense there) | 21:42 |
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| zetaz | phlixi: adding this to my search list. Thanks. Right now, I am downloading sailfish browser (and embedlite/gecko) sources to see what is in there regarding this javascript. | 21:52 |
| zetaz | to be continued.... | 21:52 |
| phlixi | have fun! :-) | 21:52 |
| zetaz | phlixi: not sure where I will land, but it should be fun :D | 21:53 |
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| zetaz | in gecko's source, but I found that the readermode is availlable in the android part, but no mention of it in the embedlite part. Not sure if it is only adding some hooks there, or it needs a lot of hard work to pull it there due to missing things... | 22:00 |
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