#jollamobile log for Thursday, 2015-04-09

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TMavicaCepi released whatsup for Jolla: https://mobile.twitter.com/negrocepi/status/58591936608619315202:07
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jaacoppiyay04:54
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politieoh nice07:45
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politieits looking good08:15
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TemeVAny screenshots?08:19
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politiehttp://www.jollausers.com/2015/03/a-new-whatsapp-client-called-whastup-too-hit-sailfish-os-soon/08:22
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tadzikomg read your emails people :o08:24
ggabrieltadzik: ?08:24
tadzikggabriel: the screenshots above08:24
tadzik"191 unread emails"08:25
ggabrielright08:25
ggabrieli thought for a second that you were referring to some jolla announcement08:25
politiehehe yea08:25
tadzikyeah, I can see why it sounded like that :)08:26
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TemeVNice, clean SailfisOS style UI.08:32
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Nicd-"he uses S40 protocols and never changes any core code so the app will actually come up as an official app and it almost never gets caught"08:37
Nicd-sounds really trustworthy :D08:37
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jaacoppialmost never not good enough for you?08:37
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tadzikis there actually a single incident of it getting banned?08:40
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Nicd-jaacoppi: not really08:40
Nicd-although I realize it's as good as whatsapp is gonna get on jolla08:40
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politiethey do 24 hour bans so08:43
politieworth a try08:43
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anYcbtw, I recently tried the conversations android app (XMPP with important XEPs, OTR and OpenPGP) on my jolla, works quite nice08:53
anYcnot perfect though :)08:53
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anYc- in case someone else still has contacts with XMPP ;)08:55
Temeany suggestions why recently my Jolla has had an issue that sometimes all the Sailfish-apps crash while alien-dalvik apps keep on going?08:55
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Temei am starting to think it has something to do with the memory card, as it occurs always when i'm listening to music (well that's the only time i've noticed it anyway) and once it crashed exactly at the same spot in a song i was listening when it first crashed.. restarted and played the same song -> crash again08:57
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Temebut why would media player hitting a corrupt block or whatever crash all sailfish apps, but not alien-dalvik?08:58
tadzikalien-dalvik is more bulletproof, apparently08:59
tadzikor it's used to restarting stuff seamlessly08:59
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JoonaaTeme it sounds like your song is doing some black magic09:09
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Temeit's not just that one, also it might not be connected to the memory card or the media player in any way09:10
Temebut i've had weird issues with memory cards before... songs intertwining etc :D09:12
Joonaait could be some specific bytes crashing.. something09:12
Temea few years ago i had some music on a card... it got somehow corrupted over time and there were parts of another song in the middle of another one .___.09:12
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Temei am thinking to just format the card and retransfer all the mp3s... but thought i might ask first if it's something obvious09:13
Hartzichem|st: just a joke09:14
JoonaaTeme: i guess try retransferring and see if it still happens with that song09:14
Temecan't even remember which song it was anymore... it's crashed dozens of times like this :/09:14
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SailTheWorldquit10:24
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Temewrong window10:45
SailTheWorld210:47
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chem|stHartzi: >30 is not bad though ;)11:04
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Hartzichem|st: yeah11:36
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arhi. what's the state of apt-x support in sailfish on jolla (phone)?17:30
ar(the bluetooth audio codec that's supposed to be better than the old a2dp)17:30
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kroanybode ever encountered the problem that the Jolla phone "forgets" the created ambiances? I find myself with only the stock ones regularly. the active ambiance is one I created, but it isn't in the favourites anymore, neither are the other ones I created...17:46
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chem|stkro: for 15months now18:01
chem|stkro: are they still available in gallery but just not favourited?18:02
chem|stor gone for good?18:02
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krochem|st: gone for good :-/18:04
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krochem|st: I guess this means you didn't find a solution yet?18:04
kroI mean it's not tooo bad as long as you don't want to change ambiances... just stick to the one created18:05
krowhile this whole ambiance thing was promoted as a killer feature, to me it's more just a gimmick (a nice gimmick, very well done - but still a gimmick)18:06
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krowell done minus the very short term memory of course :-p18:06
kimmolithat is strange, i still have ambiances since last facreset18:07
krothey seem to disappear (at least) every reboot18:07
chem|stkro: where are they stored?18:08
chem|stsdcard?18:08
chem|staka external storage18:08
kimmolion my phone, the oldest created ambiance seems to have 1 year birthday in 3 days18:08
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krodon't know actually... using default settings. the photo they were based on are on the internal memory18:08
kroor let me check again18:09
chem|stok that is strange then, it is known since day one that external sources for ambiences, sounds or images can disappear18:09
chem|stor be reset18:09
chem|sthttps://together.jolla.com/question/18981/18:10
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krook, no, the pictures I used were taken with my N9, and are indeed residing on the sdcard. will try moving them somewhere in ~nemo/18:11
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krowould have expected that the image is copied over automaticalls in some sort of ~/.ambiance folder or so18:13
krowill do that manually and check after next reboot :)18:13
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krochem|st: kimmoli: thanks for the pointers!18:14
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chem|stkro: yeah that is what is expected, created ambiences being stored on device automatically18:16
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kroalso referenced here: https://together.jolla.com/question/5535 - upvoted them both.18:20
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coderusar: it's better to ask about development stuff in #sailfishos19:51
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