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| iluminator105 | can you install sailfish on moto g 2nd generation | 17:04 |
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| r0kk3rz | iluminator105: does it have a cm11 image? | 17:07 |
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| iluminator105 | r0kk3rz, yes moto g 2014 is cm supported device i dont if its cm11 or cm12 though | 17:09 |
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| r0kk3rz | if it has cm11 then its possible, not easy though | 17:10 |
| r0kk3rz | since afaik nobody has done the work to port sfos to that device yet | 17:10 |
| iluminator105 | what is sfos | 17:11 |
| iluminator105 | sailfish os k | 17:11 |
| Yaniel | sailfishos | 17:11 |
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| iluminator105 | r0kk3rz, so install cm11 then boot sailfish image after rom is installed? | 17:12 |
| r0kk3rz | iluminator105: not so much, more like run through the HADK, and then once you get something that boots spend ages getting all the device drivers to work | 17:14 |
| r0kk3rz | #sailfishos-porters can help if you want to develop a port for that phone | 17:15 |
| iluminator105 | is jolla releasing new phone with sailfish os soon | 17:15 |
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| r0kk3rz | nothing has been announced | 17:16 |
| iluminator105 | so only up to date sailfish supported device is nexus 5 | 17:20 |
| r0kk3rz | bitly.com/port-status << list of ports and what works in each | 17:23 |
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| kimmoli | r0kk3rz: did you progress mqtt-sailfish furthan than waht is in da github? | 17:43 |
| * kimmoli so many typos | 17:44 | |
| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: nah i havent touched it in a while | 17:44 |
| r0kk3rz | the library needs digging into to find out whyfor segfault | 17:44 |
| kimmoli | sounds fun | 17:45 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 17:45 |
| r0kk3rz | might be easier to just interface with mosquitto rather than use the qmqtt library | 17:45 |
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| kimmoli | is "tool settings" in dutch really "gereedschappen instellingen" ? | 17:47 |
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| attah | aaaah, finally linux on the desktop :) now follows my first serious attempt on a useful SFOS app | 17:57 |
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| kimmoli | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0wdW-PEsNQ | 20:30 |
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| gogeta | kimmoli wich program do you use for 3d prototyping ? | 20:55 |
| kimmoli | varicad | 20:56 |
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| Turski | freecad works pretty nice a'lso ;) | 21:16 |
| Turski | and as the name says, it's free (and actually opensource) | 21:17 |
| falfa | i just upgraded | 21:20 |
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| attah | mwahahaha.. cover art fixing app is mostly GUI-work from being complete | 21:26 |
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| pdanek | https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/spcc-the-missing-application-for-your-jolla-phone#_=_ | 21:35 |
| pdanek | Do you think 20k for such app is reasonable? | 21:35 |
| pdanek | Seems way too much. | 21:36 |
| zutto | 20k is around 6 months of cost for one developer | 21:37 |
| zutto | so not really | 21:38 |
| HtheB | pdanek: wtf | 21:40 |
| HtheB | they are smart.... | 21:40 |
| HtheB | they know, they can't reach 20K... | 21:40 |
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| HtheB | and they already got the money from people who already payed | 21:41 |
| HtheB | 20k for something simple :/ wtf seriously | 21:41 |
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| jphilipz | hi all, just wondered if there is an updated list of mobile devices that sailfish has successfully been installed on | 21:48 |
| M4rtinK | jphilipz: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 21:49 |
| pdanek | HtheB: the app doesn't seem to be so complex, or maybe it is technically, but not so large userbase I guess | 21:51 |
| zutto | you guys are being silly | 21:51 |
| zutto | you're not paying 20k to get that app | 21:51 |
| jphilipz | M4rtinK: thanks | 21:51 |
| M4rtinK | also I wonder what their plans are for distributing it | 21:51 |
| zutto | you're paying 20k to get the effort of these 2 developers who will do everything they can to make it more available to you | 21:52 |
| M4rtinK | in regards of OpenRepos and/or Harbor | 21:52 |
| pdanek | zutto: right, seems reasonable maybe | 21:52 |
| jphilipz | M4rtinK: so jolla only supports what mer supports? | 21:53 |
| zutto | to me it seems quite reasonable atleast | 21:53 |
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| M4rtinK | well, it they worked on something like open source messaging UI with MUC, SIP support, video calls, etc. | 21:53 |
| jphilipz | M4rtinK: i mean sailfish | 21:53 |
| M4rtinK | that would be a real project | 21:53 |
| M4rtinK | an advanced call/sms blocker really does not look that interesting | 21:53 |
| M4rtinK | jphilipz: basically yes | 21:54 |
| HtheB | mato^: | 21:54 |
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| phlixi | what do they mean with "Private sms"? | 22:02 |
| kjetilho | I'd assume encrypted | 22:04 |
| phlixi | encrypted transport? then its an IM, since SMS will not work.. they would marked it as an IM client/network then | 22:06 |
| phlixi | encrypted storage, well... the proper approach would be to encrypt the filesystem | 22:07 |
| phlixi | and jolla already announced something in that directioin | 22:07 |
| phlixi | also i do not see the connection to blocking calls/sms | 22:07 |
| phlixi | (ok, i see the connection to sms^^) | 22:07 |
| phlixi | as much as i like to see poeople trying to do business on sailfish, i think this one is doomed... | 22:08 |
| phlixi | sad :( | 22:08 |
| phlixi | (and frankly, jolla should support payment in store...) | 22:09 |
| * attah wishes payments will be Humble Bunde / Bandcamp-style | 22:11 | |
| phlixi | is that where the customer decides about the pricetag? | 22:11 |
| attah | pretty much | 22:12 |
| phlixi | i think its a nice option, but i guess there are a lot devs that would prefer to have a pricetag | 22:12 |
| attah | mostly *with* a minimum price | 22:12 |
| phlixi | ah, ok | 22:14 |
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| phlixi | then its a more advanced version of simply having a regular pricetag :D | 22:14 |
| attah | yeah.. and it seems to be able to leverage those who want to/can pay more to do so | 22:14 |
| Turski | how about average pricetag? if there's more paying custromers, the minimum price would drop? :) | 22:15 |
| phlixi | especially in the jolla universe, i guess there are better chancec to have the simplest possible solution, since there are so many things to do | 22:15 |
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| attah | not convinced.. anything that can leverage more bigger payments would probably be worth it with such a small user base | 22:16 |
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| kjetilho | phlixi: could be layered over SMS like keybase.io | 22:21 |
| phlixi | yes, but that does not make sense | 22:21 |
| kjetilho | why not? | 22:21 |
| phlixi | would only work with someone who also uses the same client, the same as with threema, textsecure etc, just it uses sms as transport below (which is expencive, and technically nonesense when you have ip) | 22:22 |
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| kjetilho | if they indeed used keybase.io's coding, it could interoperate | 22:24 |
| phlixi | what do we want the money for: building a shop | 22:24 |
| kjetilho | but they're offering family packs etc. anyway, so... | 22:24 |
| phlixi | (besides lawyer etc) this does not sound like an open standard to me | 22:25 |
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