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| ahjolinna | oh finland https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/iron-sky-the-coming-race--2 | 00:28 |
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| bindi | hi :P | 01:43 |
| FredrIQ | hai | 01:43 |
| bindi | do I want a jolla phone, FIQ? | 01:43 |
| FredrIQ | depends | 01:43 |
| bindi | tohkbd looks nice | 01:44 |
| FredrIQ | what do you want for it | 01:44 |
| FredrIQ | *from | 01:44 |
| FredrIQ | yeah | 01:44 |
| FredrIQ | backed it | 01:44 |
| bindi | a physical keyboard :P | 01:44 |
| bindi | and just... whatsapp and facebook and ssh :D | 01:44 |
| bindi | how fluid is the OS? | 01:45 |
| bindi | a jolla phone is 150 euros used lol | 01:45 |
| FredrIQ | fluid, but a bit weird at first | 01:45 |
| FredrIQ | you get used to it quïxkly though | 01:46 |
| FredrIQ | quickly* | 01:46 |
| FredrIQ | god I miss hw kbd | 01:46 |
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| FredrIQ | not sure if I can recommend jolla | 01:48 |
| bindi | how come? | 01:48 |
| bindi | i had the n900 btw | 01:48 |
| FredrIQ | I've had one for like 3 days :P | 01:48 |
| bindi | oh | 01:49 |
| FredrIQ | refused to leave N900 for something lacking hw kbd | 01:49 |
| FredrIQ | but when it broke completely, I kinda had to | 01:49 |
| Ezko | bindi: whatsapp takes some work to get going | 01:49 |
| Ezko | you need to delete your old account, install android port on jolla, register, install jolla native and register with that | 01:50 |
| Ezko | works great after that though :P | 01:50 |
| bindi | lol | 01:51 |
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| Ezko | for facebook you need facebook messenger for android if you have group conversations | 01:51 |
| FredrIQ | bindi | 01:51 |
| Ezko | conversations with a single person are integrated | 01:51 |
| FredrIQ | if what you mention is all you want | 01:51 |
| Ezko | facebook messenger doesn't notify for group messages | 01:52 |
| bindi | how PITA is sharing pictures to facebook/whatsapp? | 01:52 |
| FredrIQ | you may be better iff with something android coupled with bt hwkbd | 01:52 |
| bindi | maybe | 01:52 |
| FredrIQ | off | 01:52 |
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| Ezko | no idea bindi, i don't do that much :P | 01:53 |
| FredrIQ | both have their strength and weakness | 01:53 |
| FredrIQ | would assume ssh being superior on jolla with a better term by far | 01:53 |
| Ezko | yeah | 01:54 |
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| FredrIQ | but other stuff would require alien dalvik | 01:54 |
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| Ezko | i like sailfish a lot but it definitely lacks software currently | 01:55 |
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| Yaniel | the native whatsapp client is unofficial and may get you banned though | 05:33 |
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| Yaniel | use at your own risk, or use the officil android one | 05:33 |
| Bysmyyr | or not use att all | 05:36 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | kimmoli: got presents for me? :) | 07:53 |
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| kimmoli | r0kk3rz_: not yet... | 08:48 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | kimmoli :( oh well, you might have to post it to me | 08:49 |
| kimmoli | in ~10 mins i know | 08:50 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | cool, i dont think im going far today. hanging around the centre mostly | 08:51 |
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| Jope | stezzzzz | 09:43 |
| Jope | stezz, please reply with your opinion to the mail with the subject: Jolla.ru mailboxes | 09:43 |
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| druberlin | good morning, i am on the fence to buy a jolla today. one question beforehand: i NEED a working whatsapp version on my jolla. Is mitakuulu working or will my account get banned if used ? | 10:03 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | druberlin: some of us have been unaffected | 10:06 |
| r0kk3rz_ | but you can use android whatsapp | 10:07 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | also, if you buy today you can still get 100e off the price :) | 10:07 |
| druberlin | so, whatsapp android will work fine, yes ? | 10:08 |
| druberlin | i will buy today. Just have to make sure my "must have" apps like a public transport app , whatsapp etc work | 10:09 |
| r0kk3rz_ | druberlin: kinda, the android stuff isnt ideal. notifications are a bit iffy atm | 10:11 |
| r0kk3rz_ | but that may change in the future | 10:12 |
| kimmoli | tbr: still waiting our postipate... | 10:12 |
| kimmoli | r0kk3rz_: ^ | 10:12 |
| tbr | kimmoli: ffffuuuuuu | 10:12 |
| r0kk3rz_ | but mitakuuluu works for me, and others with no bannage | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: noted re u9, nothing will move until next week | 10:13 |
| r0kk3rz_ | tbr kimmoli, finnpost is a bit unreliable huh | 10:13 |
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| tbr | Stskeeps: expected | 10:13 |
| druberlin | thx r0kk3rz_ . Have to admit , planning on using it as a primary phone | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | i barely have internet here | 10:13 |
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| tbr | r0kk3rz_: usually they do work reliably... | 10:13 |
| r0kk3rz_ | all good | 10:14 |
| r0kk3rz_ | might wait until i get back from aus and we can sort some international postage | 10:15 |
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| coderus | wow wow, http://shop.jolla.ru, thanks :) | 10:24 |
| coderus | druberlin: install and use android whatsapp | 10:24 |
| coderus | mitakuuluu is closed and no fither development | 10:24 |
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| Hartzi | :/ | 10:28 |
| r0kk3rz_ | coderus: really? | 10:30 |
| Hartzi | coderus: you'll write a new client? | 10:31 |
| Scelt | druberlin: if you order today the jolla, you'll get 100 € off the price | 10:32 |
| r0kk3rz_ | Hartzi: whatsapp has taken a hard stance on third party clients | 10:32 |
| druberlin | ordering RIGHT NIW :D | 10:32 |
| druberlin | NOW | 10:32 |
| r0kk3rz_ | druberlin: need a discount code? | 10:33 |
| entil | [12:24] < coderus> mitakuuluu is closed and no fither development | 10:33 |
| druberlin | as a ex meego lover and usabilty proffesional really look forward to do some mobile usabiltytests :-D | 10:33 |
| Scelt | druberlin: use this code: 4O-9I-E6 | 10:33 |
| entil | coderus: any chance of getting you to work on textsecure now? ;) | 10:33 |
| druberlin | r0kk3rz_ thx already have one | 10:33 |
| Scelt | druberlin: okay :) | 10:33 |
| r0kk3rz_ | druberlin: from a usabillity side some things are initially a bit jarring | 10:35 |
| r0kk3rz_ | but you quickly get used to it | 10:35 |
| druberlin | r0kk3rz_ they are, especially with readabilty of differenciaton because of font and text size | 10:37 |
| druberlin | BAM, ordered and paid :) | 10:37 |
| r0kk3rz_ | druberlin: be sure to post your findings/recommendations to TJC | 10:38 |
| coderus | entil: no | 10:39 |
| entil | coderus: :( | 10:40 |
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| druberlin | r0kk3rz_ will def do | 10:40 |
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| flux | kicktraq finally has a projection, guestimating $200k..$325k | 10:46 |
| flux | but, of course, the result could even be 0 if everyone decides to withdraw their support ;) | 10:46 |
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| kimmoli | tbr: ductape | 11:02 |
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| tbr | kimmoli: \o/ | 11:09 |
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| Tomo | hi, is there any way to run two instances of alien-dalvik? | 11:13 |
| Tomo | "virtualization" if you can call it that, would solve the problem of having two Skype accounts | 11:13 |
| Tomo | two alien-dalviks = two Skype instances | 11:13 |
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| tbr | I doubt you'd have enough ram for two of them, even if it would be possible, and I doubt that. | 11:20 |
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| * tbr idly ponders if the skype telepathy plugin from harmattan is still working on the N9 and if so if it could be made to work on the Jolla... | 11:21 | |
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| tbr | they recently killed off a load of old clients, so it's rather unlikely. | 11:21 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | tbr, major servicies need incame thats all | 11:22 |
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| tbr | dr_gogeta86: that's a comment regarding what? | 11:23 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | Skype , whatwrongwithyoufacebook and other servicies | 11:23 |
| dr_gogeta86 | nowadays ... also exsotic platform have native skype like smart tvs | 11:24 |
| tbr | in case of skype that's not exactly true. the messenger service itself doesn't need to have a viable business model, IF it is part of a larger business model | 11:25 |
| tbr | you'll find out, that the smart TVs mostly run android | 11:25 |
| dr_gogeta86 | now skype is the new linq for m$ ... | 11:25 |
| dr_gogeta86 | not samsung ones till 2014 and lg ( some are running webOS ...despite all ods got skype back in the days ) | 11:26 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is just a marketing/possibilities/MONEY thing | 11:27 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | the list was DESC | 11:27 |
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| kimmoli | spiiroin: http://pastebin.com/mYkmzfSF but not working with mce (?) | 11:42 |
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| kimmoli | tbr: https://app.younited.com/?shareObject=c7c09b15-0f7f-9172-1450-ff848a28e0c5 | 11:43 |
| kimmoli | annd where is r0kkerz ? | 11:43 |
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| spiiroin | kimmoli: it needs some work, the slide handling got whacked earlier this year | 11:43 |
| kimmoli | ok | 11:44 |
| spiiroin | kimmoli: I'll try to find some time for it soon | 11:44 |
| kimmoli | should mce listen e.g. EV_KEY--KEY_POWER from all input devices? | 11:44 |
| tbr | kimmoli: nice, ready to go :) | 11:45 |
| spiiroin | kimmoli: yes, and SW_LID(? I'll check) might do something semi sensible too for testing purposes | 11:45 |
| kimmoli | spiiroin: i was not able to "emulate" KEY_POWER from my uinput, i can see them with evdev_trace, but atleast display doesnt turn on... | 11:46 |
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| spiiroin | kimmoli: have you changed proximity config? | 11:47 |
| kimmoli | öm afaik no | 11:47 |
| spiiroin | then probably not ;-) | 11:48 |
| spiiroin | SW_LID = assumed to be display cover -> blanks/unblanks screen -> something to play around with while waiting for slider support? | 11:48 |
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| kimmoli | ok | 11:49 |
| kimmoli | will check on "3rd shift" later this evening. | 11:49 |
| kimmoli | now just need to find r0kkerz somewhere from helsinki | 11:50 |
| spiiroin | kimmoli: stopping mce & running this from console might reveal something: mce -T -l *:match_and_register_io_monitor -l powerkey.c:* -l event-input.c:* | 11:52 |
| pp_ | -Mitakuuluu project closed. No further development for current codebase. New client will be written and released in new year. | 11:53 |
| pp_ | +Mitakuuluu project closed. No further development for current codebase. No answers on your questions. No ETA. | 11:53 |
| pp_ | heh | 11:53 |
| Tomo | oh lawd | 11:53 |
| pp_ | shame, but quite understandable | 11:53 |
| walokra | now all just switch to telegram | 11:54 |
| kimmoli | spiiroin: ok | 11:54 |
| kimmoli | spiiroin: mce: T+0.107 N: event-input.c: match_and_register_io_monitor(): /dev/input/event13: "tohkbd", probe: REJECT | 11:55 |
| spiiroin | kimmoli: that would explain a lot; need to check the code | 11:56 |
| kimmoli | yes | 11:57 |
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| coderus | Tomo: i saw skype-clone apk on xda or something else, to have two skype at the same time. | 11:57 |
| Nicd- | coderus: I just want to thank you for all the hard work you've put into mitäkuuluu. regardless of whether you'll make a new client or not. thanks! :) | 12:00 |
| Nicd- | we need more devs like you | 12:00 |
| Tomo | coderus: thanks, i'll dig deeper | 12:01 |
| * AL13N_work sighs: i need to somehow create more time for me... like cloning or traveling back in time, or making time outside move slower or something | 12:01 | |
| AL13N_work | except for aging, that should not increase... | 12:01 |
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| spiiroin | kimmoli: the "..." in the paste - did you cut out something? like BTN_Z for example? | 12:05 |
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| kimmoli | yes, i enable everything feom KEY_ESC to KEY_MAX (0x2ff iirc) | 12:18 |
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| kimmoli | https://github.com/kimmoli/tohkbd2-daemon/blob/xkbtesting/src/uinputif.cpp#L72 | 12:19 |
| entil | [13:54] < walokra> now all just switch to telegram | 12:21 |
| entil | walokra: why would you want telegram over textsecure, especially when neither exists for sailfish | 12:21 |
| entil | judging by everything online, telegram is somewhere between a hoax and an inferior product, so I'd be really interested in knowing why | 12:22 |
| entil | http://cryptome.org/2014/11/textsecure-secure.pdf haven't read it yet, but it should be a compelling argument for textsecure | 12:22 |
| Tomo | yeah there was quite a lot of controversy about the security contests they were organizing | 12:23 |
| entil | http://support.whispersystems.org/customer/portal/questions/6537925-compatibility-and-integration also masha kolenkina's reply is quite compelling, with links | 12:23 |
| walokra | is someone using textsecure? whatsapp and somewhat telegram are used also with other than developers | 12:23 |
| Tomo | why not Viber? | 12:23 |
| entil | walokra: textsecure is allegedly bundled with cyanogenmod nowadays, that makes a huuuuge customer base | 12:23 |
| Tomo | it's better than whatsapp at least, dunno about security | 12:23 |
| Tomo | and it's widely adopted | 12:24 |
| entil | On July 24, 2013, Viber's support system was defaced by Syrian Electronic Army. According to Viber, no sensitive user information was accessed.[35] | 12:24 |
| entil | the mossad denies knowledge | 12:24 |
| entil | so why's viber "better" than whatsapp? | 12:24 |
| Tomo | desktop client | 12:24 |
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| walokra | even telegram is better in that regard | 12:25 |
| kimmoli | spiiroin: ah, i see now; https://github.com/nemomobile/mce/blob/450b575e2c8679125e548ccc99f2754bf8cca466/event-input.c#L762 | 12:25 |
| entil | I'm personally not swayed by a desktop client, I have irssi ;P mobile messaging is the thing | 12:25 |
| Sidde | textseure or something else secure would a better client than those populare unsecure stuff | 12:25 |
| Tomo | well i am not about to type on my mobile except for when i'm on the go | 12:26 |
| spiiroin | kimmoli: yes -> assumed to be 3d sensor of some sort -> ignored | 12:26 |
| entil | and I'm kinda rubbed the wrong way when jolla is at a junction where there's a void in mobile messaging and people suggest less secure solutions | 12:26 |
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| Tomo | no desktop client = sms beats it | 12:26 |
| entil | it would be a kind of a statement if the community effort went into textsecure, because of it apparently being the most secure app and widely backed by cyanogenmod and other android people | 12:27 |
| spiiroin | kimmoli: might be better to list only events that are actually emitted? | 12:27 |
| entil | Tomo: the reson why whatsapp trumps sms (and mms et al) is that it incurs no extra charges over wlan, and some people, providers or whatever might have expensive media messages | 12:28 |
| entil | and, as much as it hurts, people want to be chatty, and that can be expensive over sms | 12:28 |
| entil | so sms does not necessarily beat it :P | 12:28 |
| kimmoli | spiiroin: yes, i had it like that, but when testing i did enable _all_ just to avoid adding them one-by-one | 12:28 |
| Tomo | don't see what's wrong with Facebook chat in that regard | 12:28 |
| Tomo | "everybody" is there, and supports all functionality | 12:28 |
| entil | the fact it's facebook? | 12:28 |
| Tomo | and how is Whatsapp not Facebook? :D | 12:29 |
| Nicd- | Tomo: facebook is going to shut their xmpp | 12:29 |
| Ezko | i got plenty of friends who aren't on facebook but use whatsapp | 12:29 |
| entil | oh, also doesn't integrate with sailfish, nor does an app exist for sailfish, and I just heard they shut down their apis | 12:29 |
| entil | Tomo: that's a real problem as well, obviously | 12:29 |
| Nicd- | Tomo: so with facebook we'd be in the same "unofficial client" situation | 12:29 |
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| Tomo | i am not talking about Jolla here, i am more talking about in general | 12:29 |
| entil | people need to get a clue about this privacy stuff. I used mitakuuluu/whatsapp mainly because of the missus and my family, but she got a mobile plan with unlimited sms and I can call or sms my family when I need to, so it didn't abruptly end my life or anything | 12:30 |
| entil | but even the joking around with my brothers could've been seen as infringing the TOS | 12:30 |
| Tomo | for Jolla i don't see a proper solution for mobile messaging as none of the secure platforms have critical user mass | 12:30 |
| entil | and I doubt people generally want to be in a situation where the provider can and will read and resell your communications, which may even accidentally break the TOS because of bad humor | 12:31 |
| Tomo | you tell people to get textsecure and they will be like "lol get whatsapp" | 12:31 |
| entil | cyanogenmod people have it, many android users have, and tbh jolla has nothing | 12:31 |
| entil | at least jolla users can use it together | 12:31 |
| Nicd- | is textsecure over sms? | 12:32 |
| entil | the big issue is that there are few people up for running the project | 12:32 |
| entil | Nicd-: yes | 12:32 |
| Nicd- | ok, then it's not a choice | 12:32 |
| entil | it can encrypt sms | 12:32 |
| Nicd- | sorry :P | 12:32 |
| entil | Nicd-: not only sms .P | 12:32 |
| Nicd- | sms is too expensive | 12:32 |
| entil | also gcm and websockets | 12:32 |
| Nicd- | needs a server? | 12:32 |
| Ezko | textsecure sends over web if both users have it | 12:32 |
| entil | yeah, got to connect somewhere, that's not different from anything else | 12:32 |
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| Nicd- | who runs the server? | 12:32 |
| Nicd- | do I need to run my own? | 12:32 |
| entil | they do, but it's end-to-end encrypted, so that's ok | 12:33 |
| entil | I'm not sure how the messaging is passed, whether or not you can run your server, but the server _is_ open-source | 12:33 |
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| entil | so not having studied that yet, my gut feeling tells me whatever the server layout for it is, it's smart | 12:33 |
| Nicd- | yeah, I was thinking from a UX point of view | 12:34 |
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| entil | it'd be damned stupid to ship textsecure to all those users bundled with cm and then have them stuck on one server when everyone else uses something else, there has to be some kind of server discovery and routing in there | 12:34 |
| Nicd- | if the infra is already up and I don't need to configure it, that's good | 12:34 |
| entil | but the server is opensource and websocket support is almost there https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/1000 so this can be figured out | 12:34 |
| entil | https://github.com/JavaJens/TextSecure/tree/feature-1000 that was the link I meant to paste, sorry | 12:35 |
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| Nicd- | well, I like choice so I'm all for TextSecure support | 12:35 |
| Nicd- | and if it's end-to-end, it sounds really nice | 12:36 |
| entil | the problem is getting this thing going for real, like figuring out who has the time to actually step up :/ I cannot, but I would pledge for kickstarter or donate or somehow else help out | 12:36 |
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| entil | we have a lot of UI clues from mitakuuluu, even though that project is dead, so it'd be mostly about running the websocket server and implementing it | 12:37 |
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| Nicd- | apparently there's no iOS client yet (even though it was promised a while ago) | 12:37 |
| Nicd- | that's not good | 12:37 |
| entil | yeah, they're working on all that | 12:37 |
| entil | bro, the websocket support's probably not merged yet, but that doesn't mean we should'nt get a head start | 12:37 |
| Nicd- | well, a requirement for me is that I can talk to my wife who's using an iphone | 12:38 |
| walokra | "talk" :) | 12:38 |
| Nicd- | well, message | 12:38 |
| Nicd- | but apparently it has some kind of calls too | 12:38 |
| Scelt | massage? | 12:38 |
| Nicd- | Scelt: that's IRL | 12:38 |
| entil | hehe | 12:38 |
| Scelt | oh, okay | 12:38 |
| meklu | go implement a remote massaging protocol then | 12:39 |
| meklu | get the big bucks | 12:39 |
| meklu | and sell out for 20 billion dollars | 12:39 |
| Nicd- | meklu: did you try our game yet? | 12:39 |
| meklu | preferrably not zimbabwean | 12:39 |
| entil | be that as it may, it's not like the textsecure protocol implementation will descend from the heavens the day after tomorrow and everyone who has to communicate with ios users is fucked | 12:39 |
| meklu | Nicd-: crap, of course I had to forget :| | 12:39 |
| entil | more likely it'll take a while both for them to release for ios and the jolla community to release for sailfish | 12:39 |
| Iltsu | I just put this here https://xkcd.com/927/ | 12:40 |
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| meklu | the title-text there is rather outdated now :( | 12:41 |
| meklu | everything is micro-USB | 12:41 |
| antranigv | Hay, small question, is the sailfish OS on the Jolla phone the same everywhere ? I'd like to buy it from Russia, as I live in Armenia :) but I hope I won't get a russian version or smtn.. :) | 12:42 |
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| Ezko | antranigv: asked for language when i started mine at least | 12:43 |
| Tomo | i could make a joke about how the russian version comes with additional tools iconic to a certain political system... but i'll skip it :) | 12:43 |
| entil | mjt@ishtar:~/src/git_checkouts/TextSecure-Server (mergetest)$ git merge origin/websocket | 12:43 |
| entil | Already up-to-date. | 12:43 |
| entil | (mergetest is actually the same as master) | 12:44 |
| entil | so the websocket support is actually in the server already, that's a freebie | 12:44 |
| antranigv | Ezko: that's not a problem :D I can change the language :) | 12:44 |
| joonahoi | oh, i didn't know that jolla is sold in russia as well | 12:45 |
| entil | https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure-Server " Communication is handled by a REST API and Push messaging (both GCM and APN)." APN is in this case Apple Push Notification, right? | 12:46 |
| antranigv | Tomo: is it a joke or real ? :D It is "waitable" from the russians :P | 12:46 |
| antranigv | joonahoi: they have just announced it :) yayy GNU-ers in Armenia ^_^ long waiting | 12:47 |
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| meklu | antranigv: I think they sell it in Kazakstan already | 12:48 |
| meklu | I'm fairly certain the OS is the same everywhere :) | 12:48 |
| Tomo | antranigv: a joke, i don't think the russians share the same sense of humor conserning that area :D | 12:49 |
| antranigv | meklu: thanks for the info (: too bad Armenia is not that much connected with Kazakstan in tech field | 12:51 |
| antranigv | Tomo: politics, Putin, everywhere :3 | 12:51 |
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| coderus | meklu: kz != ru | 13:20 |
| meklu | coderus: I know | 13:20 |
| kimmoli | r0kk3rz_: HUHUU | 13:20 |
| meklu | it's geographically faaairly close though | 13:21 |
| coderus | Tomo: i could make a joke about other countries may think they are know about current situation in russia, but i'll skip it and continue ignoring you | 13:21 |
| Tomo | might as well get it from finland by that logic :) | 13:21 |
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| Tomo | coderus: jokes are based on exaggeration... | 13:23 |
| Tomo | exactly why i decided to word it like that | 13:24 |
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| TMavica | off topic question, is there any temporary data sim card I can get in finland? | 14:13 |
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| Nicd- | you can get a prepaid | 14:14 |
| VDVsx | http://prepaidwithdata.wikia.com/wiki/Finland | 14:14 |
| VDVsx | nor sure if update to date | 14:14 |
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| VDVsx | the prices, I mean | 14:15 |
| TMavica | can get in HEL airport? | 14:15 |
| meklu | probably | 14:16 |
| meklu | I would assume there to be a kiosk of sorts | 14:16 |
| meklu | like an R-Kioski or something | 14:16 |
| Shinryuu | ^ | 14:16 |
| Shinryuu | R-Kioski might help you | 14:16 |
| r0kk3rz | TMavica: theres shops everywhere in helsinki | 14:16 |
| meklu | ask for a prepaid thing | 14:16 |
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| Nicd- | there is an R-Kioski in HEL, they sell some prepaid cards | 14:17 |
| Shinryuu | indeed | 14:17 |
| r0kk3rz | you can always drop into an Elisa/sonera/dna store | 14:17 |
| Nicd- | http://www.finavia.fi/en/helsinki-airport/services/shops/rkioski-5/ | 14:17 |
| TMavica | Thanks. R-Kioski is a operator? | 14:17 |
| Nicd- | no | 14:17 |
| TMavica | Nicd-: THANK! | 14:17 |
| meklu | R-Kioski is a general small store chain | 14:18 |
| meklu | a franchising thing I think | 14:18 |
| r0kk3rz | convenience store | 14:18 |
| Nicd- | the operators are Elisa/Saunalahti, Sonera/Tele Finland and DNA | 14:18 |
| meklu | ah, that's the term | 14:18 |
| entil | heh, we don't relate to them exactly as stores, but close enough | 14:18 |
| meklu | ^ | 14:18 |
| TMavica | I feel the Name is difficult remember for me, LOL | 14:18 |
| ernesti | close to 7/11 | 14:18 |
| ernesti | *similar to | 14:19 |
| TMavica | which operator prefered to? | 14:19 |
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| Nicd- | they are pretty much the same | 14:19 |
| tigeli | TMavica: does not really matter :) | 14:19 |
| Nicd- | I would choose whichever is the cheapest | 14:19 |
| meklu | not much of a difference unless you plan to get an actual contract | 14:20 |
| r0kk3rz | ive got a travel sim that worjs everywhere. but im sure elisa/sonera/dna all have comparable deals | 14:20 |
| TMavica | Nicd-: Thats a good idea | 14:20 |
| meklu | I'd go for the cheapest as well | 14:20 |
| TMavica | but i no time to choose which is cheapest i think | 14:20 |
| meklu | well, then go with the first one you see :D | 14:20 |
| tigeli | I got sim from three.uk.. 25GB of roam data for £15 in various countries. :) | 14:21 |
| tigeli | like in Finland ;) | 14:21 |
| TMavica | One more questions: any HSBC bank in Finland? | 14:21 |
| tigeli | TMavica: not to my knowledge | 14:21 |
| meklu | never seen one | 14:21 |
| TMavica | O my god | 14:22 |
| r0kk3rz | ONOZ | 14:22 |
| Shinryuu | what is that | 14:22 |
| TMavica | is a bank.. | 14:22 |
| tigeli | TMavica: you have Danske bank, Nordea, OP.. and some smaller ones to choose from | 14:22 |
| Nicd- | S-Pankki, Ålandsbanken, POP-pankki... | 14:22 |
| ernesti | POP | 14:22 |
| r0kk3rz | whyfor you need a bank | 14:23 |
| tigeli | for a robbery ;) | 14:23 |
| meklu | deposits/withdrawals I guess | 14:23 |
| Shinryuu | oh snap | 14:23 |
| ernesti | atm? | 14:23 |
| TMavica | r0kk3rz: I dont want to put so many cash to finland | 14:23 |
| TMavica | ernesti: yes | 14:23 |
| r0kk3rz | chuck your card into an otto and be done | 14:23 |
| meklu | (Lähi)Tapiola never handled any cash | 14:23 |
| ernesti | there are many atms around | 14:23 |
| ernesti | they are called OTTO | 14:23 |
| Nicd- | TMavica: finland has ATMs that are called Otto. you need to check with HSBC if your card will work here. it may have extra charges | 14:23 |
| TMavica | Nicd-: thanks! bookmarked Otto | 14:24 |
| Nicd- | http://koyttoliittyma.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/ottopiste.jpg | 14:24 |
| tigeli | TMavica: people in finland pretty much use credit&debit cards.. and they are accepted almost everwhere | 14:24 |
| ln- | TMavica: banks are a very unpractical way of withdrawing cash, and many of them don't even serve cash. | 14:24 |
| Nicd- | that's what they look like | 14:24 |
| r0kk3rz | ive used an aus/uk/travel card | 14:24 |
| Tegu | the prepaids seem to have some differences. for example, it might have either some minute based pricing or day based pricing (fuu don't know the english terms) | 14:24 |
| Shinryuu | TMavica: they look like this in the streets, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Ottopiste.jpg/220px-Ottopiste.jpg | 14:24 |
| TMavica | tigeli: I no any credit card | 14:24 |
| r0kk3rz | its fine, unlike japan where nothing works | 14:24 |
| Shinryuu | oh someone already posted a link.. | 14:24 |
| tigeli | TMavica: not even debit one? | 14:24 |
| ernesti | visa electron is also fine :D | 14:25 |
| TMavica | I always pay all with cash of EPS | 14:25 |
| TMavica | or EPS | 14:25 |
| r0kk3rz | visa debits are the bomb | 14:25 |
| meklu | debit is pretty cool | 14:25 |
| Nicd- | TMavica: what is EPS? | 14:26 |
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| TMavica | Easy Pay System | 14:26 |
| TemeV | seems to be quite overloaded acronym :) | 14:26 |
| r0kk3rz | TMavica: where are you from? | 14:26 |
| TMavica | Hong Kong | 14:27 |
| Nicd- | TMavica: well, either you need to bring cash with you or you need to ask your bank for a card that will work in Finland (and find out the charges) | 14:27 |
| tigeli | not from finland.. at least | 14:27 |
| r0kk3rz | HK, yeah dunno if your card will work | 14:27 |
| TMavica | Nicd-: yes i finding, but no information | 14:27 |
| r0kk3rz | unless its a visa/MasterCard | 14:27 |
| TMavica | r0kk3rz: yes, but in UK, there is many HSBC around | 14:28 |
| Nicd- | TMavica: you must ask your bank. they will know | 14:28 |
| TMavica | you guys know what is UnionPay? | 14:28 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah but thats because its a UK bank | 14:28 |
| TMavica | HSBC is all over the world | 14:28 |
| r0kk3rz | but its still a uk bank | 14:28 |
| r0kk3rz | we have them in aus | 14:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | you should be able to get a travel MasterCard like i have | 14:30 |
| TMavica | if Finland's atm got a label call UnionPay, then I can draw out money from my HK bank | 14:30 |
| r0kk3rz | prepaid, but in different currencies | 14:30 |
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| r0kk3rz | so i use it to buy euros/pounds | 14:30 |
| kimmoli | r0kk3rz: soon... | 14:31 |
| r0kk3rz | they charge 5AUD for the conversion | 14:31 |
| r0kk3rz | waiting kimmoli :) | 14:31 |
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| Nicd- | TMavica: UnionPay does not work with Otto | 14:32 |
| kimmoli | here | 14:33 |
| Nicd- | at least that is how it was back in 2012 | 14:33 |
| TMavica | Nicd-: GOD. | 14:33 |
| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: downstairs? | 14:33 |
| kimmoli | yes | 14:33 |
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| kimmoli | ordering something | 14:34 |
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| kimmoli | where u? | 14:35 |
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| Ezko | does anyone know why my google account keeps logging out on my jolla? | 14:47 |
| Ezko | my facebook account did aswell | 14:47 |
| Nicd- | it's a bug | 14:48 |
| Ezko | bah | 14:48 |
| Ezko | i guess i'll just leave it logged out the next time it does that | 14:48 |
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| r0kk3rz | :) | 15:08 |
| r0kk3rz | being on mobiledata is like that | 15:08 |
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| Sail0r | german jolla users http://www.golem.de/news/tohkbd-eine-hardwaretastatur-fuer-das-jolla-1411-110437.html | 16:07 |
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| till- | my jolla is acting strange, seems like it can't save changed preferences anymore, for example i'm not able to switch usb to developer mode, it always returns to charge only. and android's gapps are constantly crashing. anyone experienced something similar? | 20:14 |
| coderus | till-: run btrfs fi show and show output | 20:21 |
| till- | coderus the metadata space is not complete full yet | 20:22 |
| till- | but i just found a "no space left on device" in a camera log... so i might try another rebalance | 20:23 |
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| kimmoli | spiiroin: mce: T+0.068 N: event-input.c: match_and_register_io_monitor(): /dev/input/event13: "tohkbd", probe: KEY, BUTTON or SWITCH | 20:27 |
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| coderus | till-: show btrfs fi output please | 20:28 |
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| till- | coderus: http://pastebin.com/g7m0Kwfc | 20:34 |
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| coderus | till-: just 400 MB free, you can run balance now and no more lags after reboot :) | 20:38 |
| gogeta | till-, are you rebalancing ? | 20:39 |
| till- | it's not lags, its things not getting saved and wrong size of directories, looks like a file system corruption to me | 20:39 |
| till- | is it "safe" to do rebalancing with uitukka? | 20:40 |
| gogeta | yep | 20:41 |
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| till- | okay, doing a backup now and than try rebalancing. is there a fsck for btrfs or is that done during rebalancing automatically? | 20:42 |
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| gogeta | do it from recovery | 20:43 |
| gogeta | not from running os | 20:43 |
| coderus | till-: btrfsck is here | 20:43 |
| till- | isn't that explicitly forbidden on uitukka? | 20:43 |
| coderus | till-: what are you talking about? | 20:44 |
| till- | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202208763 says: "If you are using Recovery Mode with SailfishOS 1.0.8.19, 1.0.8.21, or even 1.1.0.38/39, running some features of the Recovery Mode are bound to break your device." | 20:46 |
| gogeta | always | 20:47 |
| till- | so you suggest using the recovery mode shell and then run the rebalance from there? | 20:49 |
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| Ezko | did mitäkuuluu die completely now? | 21:36 |
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| Nicd- | well it's open source so anyone is free to continue working on it | 21:38 |
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| gogeta | some community campaign is needed | 21:41 |
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| gogeta | not also for sfos fellas but also for our legacy | 21:42 |
| gogeta | n9 n900 | 21:42 |
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| till- | okay seems that i've got it working again :) did btrfs repair in rescue mode, afterwards reinstalled all usb related packages. thanks guys | 21:50 |
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| coderus | till-: but did you balanced? | 21:58 |
| till- | not yet | 21:58 |
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| just4info | is there a recent tutorial on how to use 64gb sd cards? guess there was an update or something, my media/sdcard folder is missing | 22:11 |
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