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| Scelt | http://lifehacker.com/hundreds-of-dropbox-passwords-leaked-change-yours-now-1645982533 | 07:13 |
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| meklu | https://blog.dropbox.com/2014/10/dropbox-wasnt-hacked/ | 07:24 |
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| Scelt | "Dropbox wasn’t hacked. NSA approves." :D | 07:25 |
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| coderus | _inte_: while it brings enough income i have enough time to work on it :) | 08:33 |
| _inte_ | :) Good to hear :) | 08:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | coderus: have you thought about using bountysource? | 08:34 |
| r0kk3rz | i imagine the bounty for the cpu bug might have been fairly decent, since a lot of people cared about it | 08:35 |
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| coderus | r0kk3rz: bountysource for fixing bugs? :D | 08:38 |
| r0kk3rz | its a way for people to pledge money to getting bugs fixed and features implemented | 08:38 |
| r0kk3rz | which encourages other people to join in development | 08:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | interfaces with github and picks up things in the issues tracker | 08:41 |
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| coderus | r0kk3rz: features yes, already doing this | 08:43 |
| coderus | but bugs.. :D | 08:43 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 08:44 |
| r0kk3rz | you can also do your fundraising thing you're doing for the n9 through it | 08:44 |
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| coderus | actually there are no more whatsapp developers | 08:45 |
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| coderus | everyone who can help with protocol things already doing this | 08:45 |
| coderus | and we're sharing our investigations | 08:46 |
| r0kk3rz | fair enough | 08:46 |
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| coderus | well, i can create $100 bountysource for proper emoji support | 08:47 |
| coderus | as it's not related to mitakuuluu/whatsapp | 08:47 |
| coderus | and can be used for any other applications | 08:47 |
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| Morpog_Jolla | booooring | 11:39 |
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| Nicd- | hm, got stuck looking at old photos: https://plus.google.com/u/1/events/gallery/ce9avq996iah78clj5g3jbs8jms?sort=1 :) | 12:27 |
| Nicd- | damn I remember last fall, the anxious waiting and the constant refreshing of @JollaHQ twitter account for anything new | 12:28 |
| ggabriel | cool times | 12:29 |
| ggabriel | that's why another device would be cool :) | 12:29 |
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| ggabriel | always reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raTts-iGixU | 12:30 |
| * ruskie wants a jolla tablet | 12:31 | |
| phlixi | ruskie: tried nexus 7? | 12:32 |
| ruskie | I'd prefer a jolla device | 12:32 |
| phlixi | better than nothing? | 12:32 |
| ruskie | got a tab2 10.1 so not really planing another crapdroid tablet | 12:33 |
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| chem|st | ruskie: I'd love to get sfos on my tab2 but samsung was a real bitch when choosing h/w | 13:03 |
| ruskie | I'd like to see what can be done to improve a tablets usability... not just pop the same UI/UX on a tablet | 13:04 |
| chem|st | ruskie: like? | 13:05 |
| ruskie | that's what I'd like to see | 13:06 |
| chem|st | something like a completely sync experience would be cool | 13:06 |
| ruskie | I was impressed with what can be done with a phone when you think about it... the interface for me is so natural that I have issues trying to help people on other devices | 13:06 |
| ruskie | would like to see some things improved certainly... i.e. some places where pulley menus would make a bit more sense | 13:07 |
| SK_work | ruskie: http://jaakkoroppola.blogspot.fi/2014/10/multi-touch-and-bigger-screens.html | 13:07 |
| chem|st | I am unable to use an iPhone, I am unable to wrap my head around that 1 button for all actions | 13:07 |
| tadzik | much better with JP-1301 and 0 buttons for all actions :D | 13:09 |
| tadzik | (or that's how my telecom operator refers to Jolla Phone) | 13:10 |
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| chem|st | never seen anyone calling it JP-1301 but googling it brings up Jolla... | 13:20 |
| chem|st | btw is it Krait 200 or Krait 400? | 13:20 |
| Stskeepz | msm8930aa or how was it | 13:21 |
| chem|st | or is it Snapdragon 400 with a Krait 200? | 13:21 |
| chem|st | ah the latter | 13:21 |
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| Nicd- | chem|st: remove the battery and you'll see JP-1301 there :) | 13:22 |
| tadzik | so much for jPhone :) | 13:22 |
| chem|st | Nicd-: ah... | 13:22 |
| chem|st | no I wont, I just believe you | 13:22 |
| kimmoli | uptime goes... | 13:22 |
| kimmoli | i refuse to update... 53d | 13:23 |
| chem|st | kimmoli: uptime is irrelevant, the JP-1301 needs reboots from time to time to not being aged anymore | 13:23 |
| kimmoli | the aging battery contacts handle that | 13:24 |
| tadzik | not sure what reminds me of Borg more, the JP-1301 designation or the use of the word "irrelevant" | 13:24 |
| Nicd- | kimmoli: remember to record it with sailtime :) | 13:26 |
| kimmoli | grr | 13:26 |
| kimmoli | not installed there. | 13:26 |
| Scelt | *update* | 13:27 |
| tadzik | is this real life? | 13:28 |
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| tadzik | aww, sailfish can't connect to MSchapv2, or however you spell that | 13:33 |
| Stskeepz | together* has a guide doesn't it | 13:34 |
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| tadzik | ah, I'm not that desperate :) | 13:39 |
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| svuorela | Stskeepz: I her you come and visit my beautiful town soon ... :) | 13:41 |
| Stskeepz | svuorela: i will indeed. twice! | 13:41 |
| svuorela | yay :) | 13:42 |
| Stskeepz | driving it, and open source days | 13:42 |
| svuorela | your name was what made me book a ticket for the upcoming fiasco called opensourcedays. | 13:43 |
| * Morpog_PC wonders what the RC version they have atm 12, 13, 14, ? | 13:43 | |
| Scelt | 121 more likely :P | 13:44 |
| Stskeepz | if you don't mind, what is the problem people have with OSD? i've read some things around the place but i have been too much out of the danish OSS scene after moving to poland | 13:44 |
| chem|st | tadzik: huh? MSChapv2 should work... | 13:44 |
| Stskeepz | so i don't know what's going on | 13:44 |
| svuorela | Stskeepz: the new team (that kicked out the previous team) seems to just be not really up to the task. Having announced and cancelled dates a couple of times before, and this year they haven't done any marketing for the event yet. | 13:45 |
| Stskeepz | ah.. well, i stay out of the politics, just giving a talk :P | 13:45 |
| svuorela | but especially the problem seems to be a lack of marketing. | 13:46 |
| svuorela | I only noticed purely by accident, haven't seen a CfP yet nor any actual notification about it happening. | 13:46 |
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| Stskeepz | my only criteria about conferences is that if one person enjoyed the talk, it's been worth it.. | 13:46 |
| svuorela | I'll be there :) | 13:47 |
| Stskeepz | http://www.version2.dk/blog/drivingit-2014-glaed-dig-til-14-november-68911 is the other one i'm presenting in | 13:47 |
| svuorela | yeah. PTO makes great conferences. but I'm about to change jobs, and I don't think the first thing I should do in a new job is ask for a day off :) | 13:47 |
| Stskeepz | hehe | 13:47 |
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| chem|st | tadzik: connman is for some reason case-sensitive | 13:49 |
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| tadzik | oh? | 13:50 |
| svuorela | Stskeepz: do you have time for meeting up with random people, or do you have a fully booked schedule already? | 13:50 |
| chem|st | tadzik: https://together.jolla.com/question/55969/connman-fails-due-to-case-sensitive-settings/ | 13:50 |
| Stskeepz | so, osd schedule, sec, lemme check my flights.. | 13:50 |
| svuorela | Stskeepz: the osd schedule is TBA. | 13:51 |
| chem|st | tadzik: the manual has TTLS and ttls for example, but only ttls works | 13:51 |
| Stskeepz | svuorela: says '13-20' though | 13:51 |
| svuorela | yeah. | 13:51 |
| svuorela | and 3 talks | 13:51 |
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| Stskeepz | i'll probably take the shit-o-clock flight with arrival 7:35 and leave next day around 13, so probably yes | 13:52 |
| chem|st | tadzik: the workaround thread has MSCHAPV2 in the config, maybe try all upper-case | 13:52 |
| chem|st | "Phase2=MSCHAPV2" | 13:53 |
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| Stskeepz | minus a bit of time to buy all the stuff needed for a danish xmas in poland. | 13:54 |
| Stskeepz | :P | 13:54 |
| kimmoli | buttercookies? | 13:54 |
| Stskeepz | plenty of beer. | 13:54 |
| kimmoli | i could use one of the cookie jars made of sheetmetal | 13:55 |
| tadzik | chem|st: oh, I'm not even trying, I don't need to connect to the wifi so much to be bothered to write configs manually :) | 13:57 |
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| svuorela | Stskeepz: but flæskesteg can't last that long :P | 13:59 |
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| chem|st | tadzik: hehe ok, the UI does not support enterprise networking | 13:59 |
| tadzik | right :) | 14:00 |
| pdanek | This is amazing. | 14:01 |
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| stephg | Stskeepz: does the new alleged new SSL vuln mean that u9 was about to ship? :P | 14:21 |
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| stephg | as always, more beer, and kind words of support are the solution | 14:24 |
| clau | I take it updating Qt isn't that easy. | 14:38 |
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| shanttu | Facebook notifications hasn't worked in 3 months and Twitter feed on event view stopped also a couple of weeks ago. Any idea what to do? Removed and re added accounts already. | 16:51 |
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| -verne.freenode.net- [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp | 17:36 | |
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| Morpog_PC | shanttu, you could try to delete app access on facebook and twitter for the jolla | 18:05 |
| c0ck4m0u53 | Evening. Im having trouble installing/ updating any apps from store. There is always the same message "Problem with store could not install/ update insert app name here". I have tried pkcon refresh as normal user. | 18:07 |
| Morpog_PC | Look at my Jolla, my Jolla is amazing. Give it a lick - mmmmh it tastes like raisins! | 18:07 |
| Morpog_PC | widely based nonsens on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4fyhzS3UM | 18:08 |
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| Morpog_PC | c0ck4m0u53, try as root | 18:09 |
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| TemeV | c0ck4m0u53: I seem to have same problem | 18:14 |
| TemeV | Someone preparing store for update? | 18:15 |
| * TemeV is feeling hopeful | 18:15 | |
| r0kk3rz | well it is that time of the month | 18:15 |
| c0ck4m0u53 | Morpog_PC: running it as root didnt help | 18:15 |
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| c0ck4m0u53 | TemeV: fingers crossed then:D | 18:16 |
| Morpog_PC | well, what did it say when it was running as root and didn't help? | 18:16 |
| c0ck4m0u53 | yes, run it as root and the problem persists | 18:17 |
| TemeV | c0ck4m0u53: no, I'll just keep my thumbs up. That's the Finnish way :) | 18:17 |
| r0kk3rz | is taking its time for me | 18:18 |
| r0kk3rz | we'll see if it breaks | 18:18 |
| r0kk3rz | yep, it breaks | 18:18 |
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| r0kk3rz | so its not just you c0ck4m0u53 | 18:18 |
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| TemeV | I bet someone at Jolla just messes up the store to give people false hope of update :p | 18:19 |
| c0ck4m0u53 | ok but thats just cruel | 18:20 |
| r0kk3rz | well yeah there could be that | 18:20 |
| r0kk3rz | it could just be broke, not for false hope | 18:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | just broke | 18:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | not sure what hours they put in in finland, but its a bit odd to be breaking stuff for a reason this late in the day | 18:21 |
| c0ck4m0u53 | so it might be just a "normal" breakage with no hidden agenda:D | 18:22 |
| Nicd- | yeah, store seems to be broken | 18:23 |
| TemeV | it's 21:27, so normal people wouln't be working, but what I hear people at Jolla might have peculiar working times :) | 18:23 |
| r0kk3rz | well the real question is when did it break | 18:24 |
| r0kk3rz | sure its broken now, but has it been like that for hours? | 18:24 |
| c0ck4m0u53 | well I have noticed it about an hour ago | 18:24 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe they try and schedule their outages to be late at night? | 18:25 |
| shanttu | Morpog_PC, thanks your tip worked great for twitter. Facebook account minutes on "Setting up account..." state. Hope setup is successful. | 18:25 |
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| Morpog_PC | sounds good | 18:26 |
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| r0kk3rz | store wont even load now | 19:08 |
| r0kk3rz | its even more broken | 19:08 |
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| clau | checking for sailfish updates is also dead | 19:23 |
| Tegu | I guess it uses store. at least when I check for updates, it checks for app updates at the same time | 19:24 |
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| phlixi | just updated an app from the store | 19:25 |
| phlixi | works fine for me | 19:25 |
| tigeli | we are dealing with some issues with database replication | 19:26 |
| Tegu | Now it loads for me but updating an app seems to take a while.. ah, okay | 19:26 |
| tigeli | db is now up & running again and store should work again | 19:26 |
| tigeli | but might be bit slow | 19:26 |
| r0kk3rz | cheers tigeli | 19:26 |
| clau | thanks for the info tigeli | 19:28 |
| tigeli | np | 19:28 |
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| tigeli | still fighting with it.. and some short breakages are expected | 19:30 |
| r0kk3rz | sounds fun for 11pm on a tuesday | 19:35 |
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| Nicd- | just went outside and BAM aurora borealis | 19:42 |
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| tmynttin | where? | 19:45 |
| Nicd- | tampere | 19:46 |
| Shinryuu | interesting | 19:47 |
| Shinryuu | usually you don't see them that often in south | 19:47 |
| tmynttin | cool | 19:48 |
| r0kk3rz | really? | 19:52 |
| r0kk3rz | the south of finland isnt very far south | 19:52 |
| r0kk3rz | light pollution probably doesnt help though | 19:53 |
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| Morpog_PC | does anybody know where the folder and icon config for desktop is stored? | 19:55 |
| Morpog_PC | Just put an icon i a folder and the whole folder vanished.... | 19:55 |
| Morpog_PC | in* | 19:55 |
| Morpog_PC | oh what the hell the folder was in a folder | 20:00 |
| Morpog_PC | that shouldn't be possible at all | 20:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | its folders all the way down | 20:03 |
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| Morpog_PC | ? | 20:05 |
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| clau | the road to hell is paved with folders | 20:07 |
| Morpog_PC | aaah, lol | 20:07 |
| Morpog_PC | i shoulod have made a screenshot, damn :D | 20:08 |
| r0kk3rz | i wonder if theres some kind of limit | 20:09 |
| r0kk3rz | of folders in folders | 20:10 |
| Morpog_PC | you cannot put folders in folders | 20:10 |
| Morpog_PC | i just triggered a bug | 20:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | oh | 20:11 |
| clau | I take it you talk about Sailfish folders in app screen | 20:11 |
| Morpog_PC | sure, lol | 20:11 |
| clau | :) | 20:11 |
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| stephg | can you all please stop saying 'folders' | 20:15 |
| stephg | 'directories' please! | 20:15 |
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| Nicd- | folders folders folders folders | 20:16 |
| Nicd- | FOLDERS | 20:16 |
| clau | :D | 20:16 |
| Morpog_PC | I'm not on filelevel -> folders | 20:16 |
| Nicd- | fffffolders F O L D E R S folders | 20:16 |
| r0kk3rz | skeuomorphism is where its at yo | 20:16 |
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| Nicd- | hey clau did you see that folder I sent you | 20:16 |
| stephg | Nicd- in Windows weenie shocker ;) | 20:16 |
| Nicd- | stephg: sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my folders folding | 20:17 |
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| stephg | :D | 20:17 |
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| Turski | this discussion reminds me about VISKI | 20:21 |
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| stephg | I thought whisky got barred or banned or something, judging by the twitter of late from .fi :P | 20:26 |
| Turski | ;) | 20:26 |
| M4rtinK | I actually also saw a nested folder once in the Jolla | 20:27 |
| raa700 | Thou shalt not advertise hard liqours in finland | 20:27 |
| M4rtinK | but it behaved in some strange way IIRC | 20:27 |
| raa700 | I think our oversized public sector is running out of things to do so they fiddle around with all kinds of nonsense | 20:28 |
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| Turski | raa700: +1 | 20:29 |
| tigeli | now store should work again (the installation too), please confirm :) | 20:30 |
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| Morpog_PC | now open the gates, flood us, release the update! | 20:31 |
| Morpog_PC | :D | 20:31 |
| \go | ahahahah | 20:31 |
| raa700 | release the kraken | 20:31 |
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| \go | tbt | 20:31 |
| tigeli | :D | 20:32 |
| * Morpog_PC installs random app | 20:37 | |
| tigeli | if the promised sslv3 vulnerability gets releases today.. guess what happens with the update :D | 20:38 |
| Morpog_PC | works | 20:38 |
| Tegu | install the coin app for maximum randomness | 20:38 |
| tigeli | Morpog_PC: thanks | 20:38 |
| Morpog_PC | screw that security released, give us an hotfix ;) | 20:38 |
| Morpog_PC | hehe | 20:38 |
| tigeli | :) | 20:39 |
| Morpog_PC | you're welcome tigeli | 20:39 |
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| Morpog_PC | theres a coin app? | 20:40 |
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| stephg | tigeli: I thought it was the other way round; I thought u9 being ready meant there'd be a new vulnerability | 20:41 |
| * Morpog_PC already loves the coin app | 20:42 | |
| Morpog_PC | Protip: release u9 and add the fix to u10 and release that 2 days later. People will love you :D | 20:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | tigeli: store works | 20:50 |
| r0kk3rz | good job | 20:50 |
| r0kk3rz | agree with the out of band patching for security | 20:50 |
| r0kk3rz | unless the QA procedures are too much to execute for a small fix | 20:51 |
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| lukedirtwalker | r0kk3rz: is there shuffle in SirenSong? | 20:56 |
| r0kk3rz | yes and no | 20:57 |
| lukedirtwalker | that means? | 20:57 |
| r0kk3rz | the random infinite play queue is kinda shuffle | 20:57 |
| Morpog_PC | you have to use the coin app for each shuffle :D | 20:57 |
| r0kk3rz | qmediaplaylist does have a shuffle function, so i can easily implement that | 20:58 |
| r0kk3rz | but at current, if you mean you have a playlist that you jumble up and play through sequentially, then no | 20:59 |
| lukedirtwalker | I'm looking for an implementation, because I want to do something similar. Thanks for your infos | 20:59 |
| r0kk3rz | oh right | 21:00 |
| r0kk3rz | qmediaplaylist is probably what you want then | 21:00 |
| r0kk3rz | has a shuffle function that presumable jumbles the list, as its not a play mode | 21:00 |
| tigeli | r0kk3rz: thanks | 21:00 |
| lukedirtwalker | To look how they do it yes. But I can't use it. | 21:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | roll your own then | 21:01 |
| r0kk3rz | pretty sure theres plenty of array shuffling algorithms around | 21:01 |
| tigeli | r0kk3rz: it is the fact that usually patching thing like openssl will make the whole world to rebuild.. :) | 21:01 |
| r0kk3rz | tigeli: yeah fair enough, some things arent so easy to patch in isolation | 21:02 |
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| tigeli | but yeah.. I understand the need for faster delivery of hotfixes | 21:02 |
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| lukedirtwalker | r0kk3rz: yeah, thanks. | 21:03 |
| tigeli | but at least we are patching android-vulns faster than others ;) though that | 21:05 |
| Morpog_PC | that conspiracy theory about Kokias end made my day :D http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1442971&postcount=37 | 21:05 |
| tigeli | is not hard thing to do | 21:05 |
| Morpog_PC | Nokias* | 21:05 |
| lukedirtwalker | Morpog_PC: interesting theory :) | 21:07 |
| Morpog_PC | http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/009/832/dafuq-did-i-just-read-meme.jpg | 21:08 |
| \go | kimmoli, face | 21:11 |
| \go | good night guys | 21:11 |
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| \go | is ever a pleasure be here | 21:11 |
| kimmoli | gn | 21:11 |
| r0kk3rz | Morpog_PC: thats pretty good | 21:13 |
| r0kk3rz | i do believe that elop was a plant to tank nokia so MS gets a cheap price on the sale | 21:13 |
| r0kk3rz | but doing it for the NSA/Prism/etc | 21:13 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah maybe not | 21:13 |
| Morpog_PC | MS killes lots of other companys before. BoD at Nokia should be put in jail forbeing that naive. | 21:14 |
| Morpog_PC | killed | 21:14 |
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| r0kk3rz | well elop was an MS employee, suddenly changes nokias strategy to be full MS | 21:16 |
| r0kk3rz | how much more overt can you be | 21:16 |
| Morpog_PC | well, thats history | 21:17 |
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