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| tadzik | tbr: what is more: I copied all wifi_* from the old connman directory, and so I don't think I lost any settings at all | 06:34 |
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| tadzik | I sohuld note all that in that TJC thread | 06:35 |
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| TemeV_ | Is there some way to disable those UI hints | 09:54 |
| TemeV_ | e.g. "flick left to do something" | 09:55 |
| TemeV_ | It's been like two monts since I made factory reset and they still keep popping up | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | they disappear after a while, or rather, they should | 09:56 |
| TemeV_ | well, they randomly keep appearing | 09:56 |
| tbr | for me each hint showed up once after upgrading to U8 | 09:56 |
| TemeV_ | for me they were shown once or twice and then randomly every now and then | 09:57 |
| TemeV_ | anyway, there should be way to disable them. They were really annoing after factory reset | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | they're in dconf i think | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | might be wrong | 09:59 |
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| Sail0r | I think they appear everytime the UI "thinks" you are stuck | 10:01 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi SfietKonstantin | 10:08 |
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| SfietKonstantin | morning dr_gogeta86 | 10:10 |
| dr_gogeta86 | still on track with phonebot | 10:11 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ? | 10:11 |
| SfietKonstantin | yep quite a bit | 10:12 |
| SfietKonstantin | working with dbus now | 10:12 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | SfietKonstantin: i've got some ideas | 10:14 |
| dr_gogeta86 | to integrate pushbullet | 10:14 |
| dr_gogeta86 | last evening i've tinker a bit wit websockets | 10:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | are quiet effective | 10:15 |
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| norayr | before asking questions I really interested, like "can I keep my home and all settings on sdcard"? I would like to ask a stupid question. | 10:28 |
| norayr | Is sdcard presence necessary for android apps to work? How can I install f-droid.org "market"? I have downloaded the apk, and try to install it via "File Manager" but it says the file whether corrupted or non installable. | 10:30 |
| PeperJohnny | norayr: You don't need a sdcard | 10:30 |
| PeperJohnny | And i had to install yandex store first, so i could install other stores | 10:31 |
| PeperJohnny | after that i could remove yandex | 10:31 |
| norayr | And yes, I would like to have my home on sdcard. I did it with n900; and if n900 needs repair, I just get out sdcard, and can give the phone without private information. | 10:31 |
| norayr | hm, did you install YM with Jolla Shop? | 10:31 |
| PeperJohnny | yep | 10:31 |
| norayr | okay, thank you. | 10:31 |
| PeperJohnny | for the latter i have no answer :7 | 10:32 |
| norayr | there's something called aptidroide. it's a market installer too. But I wanted to install f-droid only. Cause it's free software. Ok, let's see. | 10:32 |
| tbr | I'm not sure how hard it would be to redirect /home to a SD card | 10:33 |
| tbr | might need some experimenting | 10:34 |
| tbr | might want to make backups and get familiar with recovery first | 10:34 |
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| norayr | ok right after I installed aptoide it became possible to install f-droid installer from file manager. | 10:38 |
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| norayr | tbr: yes definitely I need that. | 10:38 |
| norayr | to learn how to recover device and then to redirect home to sdcard. | 10:38 |
| tbr | note that the OS relies on /home for the user session too | 10:40 |
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| Dicee | hmm | 10:45 |
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| Dicee | any must have apps? | 10:46 |
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| iamtew | depends what you use your telephone for.. | 10:50 |
| iamtew | I use mainly the web browser and that whatsapp thing.. miätkuulu? | 10:51 |
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| kimmoli | makalulu ? | 10:53 |
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| iamtew | this one , https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2 | 10:54 |
| Cal-Drone | kala pala | 10:58 |
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| norayr | ok, and gpodder sailfish client... it cannot connect to gpodder.net? | 11:04 |
| norayr | wow there's a room for it | 11:04 |
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| Lipevakala_ | Hi, i have a nasty Tweetian problem. Afther instalation second launch lists all mentions twice and half of them ar always unread? Ewen reset does not help. Service installed latest sw again but this problem stays? Any hints what to do? | 11:36 |
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| norayr | I have contributed a keyboard layout to Maliit, and it got accepted. Of course I cannot find my layout in Sailfish out of the box. How can I install that? | 11:37 |
| norayr | I mean other than getting the file and placing it somewhere (already don't remember where) | 11:37 |
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| norayr | and if I place it I am not sure if Sailfish Settings can see that. | 11:39 |
| norayr | I mean may be there's a package which brings all maliit layouts? | 11:39 |
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| Acce | https://mobile.twitter.com/andrewzhilin/status/505686959634014208/photo/1 | 13:04 |
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| Acce | is this happening or just visions | 13:05 |
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| tbr | Acce: that guy only ever does CG and design, from what I can tell. | 13:10 |
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| norayr | I did it right on device https://spyurk.am/posts/989676 | 13:12 |
| norayr | that's why I love linux and don't like android. It's simple, just copy fonts to .fonts in home, and just edit a file. | 13:12 |
| norayr | not sure how to contribute this layout and to whom. but anyway. | 13:12 |
| norayr | if anyone wants to package it then https://github.com/norayr/sailfish-armenian-layout | 13:13 |
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| Lipevakala | Anyone knows where Tweetian (also old versions) store mentions? Twitter account works ok (Android, web and N9 Tweetian too) so broblem is in my Jolla... | 13:25 |
| coderus | Lipevakala: ./.local/share/harbour-tweetian/Tweetian/QML/OfflineStorage/Databases/46946eff97f90d917cf7af61575e9062.sqlite | 13:27 |
| coderus | at /home/nemo | 13:27 |
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| Lipevakala | Thanks coderus. But deleting that and reauthentication does not solve doublementions? Can thre be other locations too? | 13:36 |
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| Milo- | great.. now that my jolla no longer automatically shutsdown every now and then, I have to do it manually | 14:43 |
| Milo- | stupid connectivity bug. | 14:43 |
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| tbr | Milo-: what bug? | 14:48 |
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| Milo- | the one which causes mobile data to be inaccessible until reboot.. flight mode can't be turned on (because it gets automatically turned off before any connection closes) | 14:51 |
| Milo- | only solution is to reboot the phone :/ | 14:51 |
| Milo- | or maybe that's not a bug, but a feature. | 14:52 |
| tbr | hmm, never happened to me | 14:52 |
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| Milo- | keeps happening to me at least once per week | 14:53 |
| Milo- | settings page dims the mobile data favourite icon (can't toggle it anymore) and if any application needs internet, the connection prompt will only show wlan option | 14:54 |
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| kimmoli | what does the mobile settings page show? | 14:55 |
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| stephg | afternoon everyone | 14:55 |
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| Milo- | kimmoli it shows "dna INTERNET disabled" in a very dim font. | 14:56 |
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| Milo- | and network mode has been automatically switched from "prefer 3G" to "2G only" | 14:57 |
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| kimmoli | have you tried to take sim out and reinsert it? | 14:59 |
| kimmoli | or restart connman... | 14:59 |
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| Milo- | reinserting sim might have worked.. | 15:01 |
| Milo- | yes. it was able to connect to the mobile data | 15:01 |
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| artemma | Stskeeps: ping | 15:11 |
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| artemma | Stskeeps: never mind, shot you an email | 15:21 |
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| disharmonic | Hey guys? Should reboots still be happening with the latest firmware? | 16:18 |
| disharmonic | r/?/, | 16:19 |
| coderus | disharmonic: sure | 16:19 |
| coderus | disharmonic: its more hardware than software | 16:20 |
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| Shinryuu | :( | 16:20 |
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| disharmonic | coderus: I see, thx. Gonna look at doing the mod then. | 16:25 |
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| philandstuff | I'm trying to back up my contacts, but the resulting ~nemo/.vault/People/data/all.vcf file doesn't have all of the contacts from my People app. am I doing something wrong? | 17:17 |
| philandstuff | it's got some of them, but nowhere near all | 17:17 |
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| javispedro | possibly some of them are stored in online services, like jabber? | 17:24 |
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| coderus | philandstuff: how you doing backup? | 17:41 |
| coderus | afaik it backuping only local contacts like javispedro said | 17:42 |
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| clau | is anyone else having connection problems (mostly with data) while in roaming? | 17:48 |
| clau | it's barely usable :( | 17:48 |
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| philandstuff | coderus: yeah that was it, it wasn't backing up contacts from google contacts | 18:07 |
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| eyea_UK_ | jolla )0!1@ joy | 18:08 |
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| stephg | having no internet sucks :( | 18:14 |
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| iamtew | eh, uh? how does that work? | 18:18 |
| ShadowJK | clau, mobile data works a bit better for me than wifi.. | 18:19 |
| ShadowJK | And anecdotally, data in germany was somewhat unstable on my jolla.. but it has been somewhat unstable on every phone I've had with me to germany | 18:19 |
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| stephg | ShadowJK, similarly anecdotally had *terrible* battery life when roaming in greece for the last few weeks but a) was the same for my g/f's N4 and ii) it immediately got better back in athens | 18:23 |
| stephg | turns out really sketchy 2G/3G sucked the life out of my jolla when we were in the more remote parts | 18:23 |
| stephg | ^^ even if data was off (e.g. overnight) | 18:24 |
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| ahjolinna | stephg: Apply a layer of tape at the battery, opposite side than the connector...that helps and it fixes the reboot problem what some people have had | 18:27 |
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| stephg | ahjolinna, I don't have the battery problem, this was purely symptomatic of where I was and the connection (I get well over a day back in london on 4g) | 18:29 |
| kimmoli | having ssh tunnel open and also lots of use (no games though) i get battery down to 15% in 12 hours | 18:31 |
| ahjolinna | stephg: believe me you should do it, a finnish engineer told me(works for IBM...he is also my neighbor) that this will help/increase battery life on 2g/3g and fix the reboot problem | 18:33 |
| stephg | will it fix my g/f's N4 too? ;) | 18:33 |
| ahjolinna | no, this Jolla phone problem | 18:34 |
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| ahjolinna | *this is | 18:34 |
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| stephg | ahjolinna, that's what I mean, she saw the same problem at the same time in the same place; it was environmental, not jolla specific, I was relaying a similar story to ShadowJK | 18:37 |
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| ahjolinna | stephg: well anyway, you should try it...I have been using that trick for months and it works...and same with my friends | 18:40 |
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| stephg | hehe fair enough | 18:42 |
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| stephg | chem|st_, I quite like your sloep idea | 18:45 |
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| pp_ | clean the connectors while you're at it | 18:58 |
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| clau | ShadowJK, I never had problems with my N9 though. | 20:48 |
| clau | ShadowJK, and these problems are not just "bad signal"-like. Sometimes, | 20:48 |
| clau | data connection is deactivated | 20:48 |
| clau | and can't be reactivated without a reboot, or if I'm lucky just with a flight mode activation/deactivation | 20:49 |
| clau | I have two Jolla's with the same exact issue. | 20:49 |
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| clau | One has a CZ sim and works fine in CZ, but not abroad, while the other has a foreign sim which works very badly in CZ and any other country, except the home country | 20:50 |
| clau | I just hope the next update will address this issues, otherwise I might have to replace one of the phones. | 20:52 |
| clau | *these | 20:52 |
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| meklu | is there some documentation anywhere on what all the mitäkuuluu status stuffs signify? | 22:12 |
| meklu | i.e. person status and the orbs on messages | 22:12 |
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| clau | meklu, afaik the orbs are like this: red = the message has not yet been sent to the server (ie. connection issues) | 22:25 |
| clau | yellow = message has been sent to server, but not yet confirmed to be received by the destination | 22:25 |
| clau | green + yellow = message sent and received on destination (does not mean it was also viewed though) | 22:26 |
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| clau | As for contact status, when you get a bar on the left of the picture, I think it means the contact is online at that time. I noticed that sometimes the status is not properly updated, however I don't know if this is a WA or mitakuuluu issue. | 22:27 |
| clau | There's also a difference inside the contact view: when the contact is online, you will see a bright bar just below the name, otherwise you will see the text "Last seen <date & time>". | 22:29 |
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| Kabouik | I'm trying to do that (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1417072&postcount=393) but get an error when trying to start or enable the service, "bad message". Any ideas? | 23:30 |
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