#jollamobile log for Monday, 2014-08-25

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coderushow many? 5-10 ?00:01
coderusis it too much?00:01
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coderushttps://together.jolla.com/question/54393/please-release-gstreamer-10/00:39
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UmeaboyAre there any made plans to make the upcoming Jolla-phone water/dirt-resistant?00:42
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NaranekI would be very surprised if there were05:57
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pp_ooooh, optima service finally got my phone :D06:40
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pp_posti group </306:40
pp_post office on wednesday morning, I suppose 3rd business day is within limits of "normal" :)06:41
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sqozzhas someone an idea, where i can find logs on my jolla regarding the random reboots i have?09:44
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Nicd-there is one in /var/log09:45
Nicd-systembootlog or something like that09:46
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sqozzthank you :)10:25
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faeniltbr: mmm found a few corrupted files...this is not good :D13:11
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tbrfaenil: yeah, better check integrity of everything important13:19
faenileh :/13:20
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faenilVDVsx: ping13:38
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VDVsxfaenil, pong13:43
faenilVDVsx: my phone has stopped updating email since a few weeks13:43
faenilwhat can I check13:43
VDVsxfaenil, schedule in accts is fine ?13:43
faenilyeah, well it says "Automatically" in google acc13:44
VDVsxfaenil, that's no email schedule13:45
VDVsxthere's no auto for email in google acct, that's for other services, check the schedule under "email" section13:45
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faenilVDVsx: where is it supposed to be? I remember that you had a choice between a few intervals13:47
faenilbut I can't find that anymore13:47
faenilshould that be in the Google account page, above contacts?13:47
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VDVsxfaenil, yes, in same page, there's "Email details", "Email sync" and then "Content sync"13:50
VDVsxunless you are using some older version13:50
faenilVDVsx: I'm using the latest public update..13:50
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VDVsxso is like that13:50
faenilI have13:51
faenil- Calendars13:51
faenil- Email13:51
faenil- Contacts13:51
faenil-- Sync: TwoWay13:51
faenilthat's what I have13:51
VDVsxnothing after that ?13:51
faenilContent Sync13:51
faenil- Sync content: Automatically13:51
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faenilOther services13:51
faenil- Instant Messaging13:51
faenilEOF13:51
VDVsxfaenil, if you go to settings->apps->email is the schedule there ?13:52
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faenilno, only download img auto13:52
VDVsxfaenil, well, so either you are running some half-updated versions or settings went bonkers13:53
faeniland we know that much :D13:54
tbrtry readding the account?13:54
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VDVsxfaenil, you can check what is under: /home/nemo/.cache/msyncd/sync/13:54
faeniltbr: I think I have already after updating to up813:54
VDVsxyou should have one syncemail-xxx.xml13:55
VDVsxthere13:55
VDVsxone per acct13:55
faenilI have it13:55
VDVsxfaenil, pastebin the content somewhere then13:56
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faenilsec13:57
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Nicd-errrr. if I go to settings -> apps -> email, should there be some schedule?13:59
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Nicd-because I only have "download images automtically" and "default account for sending"14:00
faenilVDVsx: it's a 0bytes file14:01
faenil(how cool)14:01
VDVsxNicd-, no, that's per acct now14:01
Nicd-ok, good14:01
VDVsxfaenil, so that's the culpit then14:01
faenileh :P14:02
VDVsxfaenil, have you tried to save the acct, IIRC these profiles are regenerated14:02
faenilAug 25 16:03:16 Jolla [27759]: [W] Buteo::ProfileManagerPrivate::load:152 - Failed to load profile: "syncemail-7" Aug 25 16:03:16 Jolla [27759]: [W] AccountSyncManager::updateSyncProfile:430 - Invalid profile name: "syncemail-7"14:04
faenilalso14:05
faenilAug 25 16:03:16 Jolla [981]: [W] Buteo::ProfileManagerPrivate::parseFile:1096 - Failed to parse profile XML:  "/home/nemo/.cache/msyncd/sync/twitter.Posts-4.xml" Aug 25 16:03:16 Jolla [981]: [W] Buteo::ProfileManagerPrivate::load:152 - Failed to load profile: "twitter.Posts-4"14:05
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faeniltwitter-posts is 0bytes as well14:06
faenilVDVsx: this is what happens when I change an option and Save14:10
faenilhttp://pastebin.com/gx7KsKwJ14:10
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VDVsxhumm, they should be recreated, but I don't remember in which version that was implemented probably not yet there14:11
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faenilVDVsx: ok, so should I recreate accounts and pretend nothing happened?14:15
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VDVsxfaenil, you can try to remove the xml files and then save the acct again, if that leads to same error as you pasted, only way is recreate accts14:17
faenilokay, thanks14:17
faenilVDVsx: do you already know why it gets truncated, or is "recreate the files" just a way to work it around?14:18
VDVsxfaenil, this is known if a crash happens while those files are be written14:18
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VDVsxit should recreate the files in case of failure or if user removes them14:19
faenilok14:19
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faenilso there's no known "bug", just something that can happen if something at filesystem level goes wrng14:20
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VDVsxfaenil, yes, but I can't remember when the recreation was implemented, gtg now14:21
faenilok14:21
faenilhave a nice evenin!14:21
VDVsxthx, same :)14:22
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Siddeis there any good way to exclude folder from being indexed on a sdcard. I don't want my audiobooks to show up in the media application15:56
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Siddeseems like creating the backup.metadata-fil was a "good enough" solution16:01
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louisdkI have a problem with my Jolla phone. The viberation has suddenly become very weak.18:32
Stskeepscontact care18:33
cb400flouisdk: sounds like a feature, now you should just turn it off completely ;-)18:33
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tadzik:P18:42
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Sail0rlouisdk: had the same one week it completly stopped working but care was fast and replaced it :)18:43
tadzikStskeeps: how does contacting care work if you're in the US?18:43
Stskeepstadzik: welllll.18:43
tadzikStskeeps: a friend of mine was looking to sell his first one, but he didn't because the vibration went down18:43
Stskeepsin practice we're not selling in the US and warranty is within the EU, at a guess..18:44
louisdkcb400f: My Jolla also have a little white dot in the lower center and some yellow inserts in the right side.18:44
louisdkSail0r, you mean like a week?18:44
Sail0rit took a week from getting weak to not function at all18:44
Sail0rhttps://together.jolla.com/question/42761/warranty-repair-reasons-experiences-and-cost/18:46
tadzikStskeeps: what if you driv^Wfly to the us to report it to care?18:47
tadzikerm18:47
tadzikto the EU18:47
Stskeepsthat's easier, i'd presme18:47
Stskeepsas it can be picked up within the EU18:47
tadzikokay18:47
tadzikand then it gets replaced?18:47
Sail0ror repaired18:47
tadzikright18:48
louisdkSail0r, i mean a week for repair?18:49
Sail0rfor me it took 5 days from pickup to return18:49
Sail0r(germany)18:49
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louisdkSail0r, ahh okay :)18:51
Sail0rsend it on monday and got it back on friday18:52
Sail0rso about 5 days without jolla which felt like weeks ;)18:52
* cb400f imagines the horror ;-)18:52
Sail0rI was not use to charge a phone once a day and my samsung went off everyday ^^18:52
Sail0r*used18:52
pp_lessee when I get mine back, sent it on wed and they just started looking at it today :P18:53
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Sail0rI got a whole new phone. I think mine was too fucked up ^^18:54
* louisdk finds it sad that Jolla did on produce their first device with a hardware design parter like Oppo.18:54
louisdk*not18:54
pp_I'm suspecting they'll clean the battery connectors on mine and send it back18:54
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pp_:-)18:55
tadzik:)18:55
Sail0rMine had frequent shutdowns, fall to blackscreen, vibration issues18:55
pp_(which is fair enough if it's the proper fix)18:55
tadzikbtw, is the notification glitch known anyway?18:55
Sail0rwhich one?18:55
Sail0rthere are many at the moment i think18:55
tadzikthe fact that it sometimes stays semi-transparent and locks everything up until you realize that the notification screen is still there, but invisible?18:55
Sail0rnever noticed that18:56
pp_I'm not missing mine that much, my n9 backup is almost as good18:56
Sail0rmy galaxy s2 is horrible ^^18:56
AL13Nmy galaxy Y is alot worse18:57
Sail0rand I learned again why I don't like android at all18:57
pp_(of course app/update situation is horrible and the usb door is breaking again)18:57
Sail0rit's the most unintuitive system i ever had18:58
AL13Nyes18:58
rigo_N9 rulz18:59
AL13Nand the constant app updates that you cannot disable, making it slowlier than ever18:59
AL13Nrigo_: no, jolla rulez18:59
rigo_maybe, but jolla has to think about the next generation hardware IMHO19:01
Sail0rJolla would rule even more if basic functionality would finally work ;)19:01
rigo_because the hardware makes the money, more than the software IMHO19:01
AL13Nwhat's basic functionality? calling? sms?19:01
rigo_Sail0r: no hiccup for me so far19:01
Sail0rfor a smartphone?19:02
Sail0rmark more then one email at a time as read19:02
Sail0rimap folder sorting in right order19:02
AL13Ni don't use the mail app, tbh19:02
Sail0rcaldav and carddav support19:02
louisdkHow critical shall the LCD errors be before Jolla will fix it? I have a light dot in the bottom of the screen and some yellow inserts at the right side.19:02
rigo_uuhh oohhh, email client and linux is a very sad story at the moment19:02
Sail0rlouisdk: contact care?19:02
Stskeepslouisdk: look at typical standards for dead pixels, but yeah, contact care19:03
Stskeepsthis isn't a official channel, care are the ones helping with care things :)19:03
AL13Nrigo_: i'm still using Kmail atm, since there is no better one, but that one also has it's issues19:03
louisdkSail0r, I'm trying to capture the dead pixels with a sg2 camera. It's not that easy :)19:03
Sail0rhehe19:04
Sail0rcare will think "w0000t the whole screen is broken" ;)19:04
Sail0ra good advisor which I read about dead pixels sometime ago "Make a screenshot ;)"19:04
louisdkSail0r, lol :p19:04
* cb400f thinks care will wonder why louisdk used his Jolla for a hammer >:-)19:05
rigo_AL13N: i'm kde user since version 1.1 and after 3.5, the first usable version of kontact was 4.11.219:05
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* louisdk used this Jolla while building a Sailboat .... *NOT* :P19:05
AL13Nrigo_: i'm a kde user too, but seriously PIM needs some love, and it's not even ported to KF5 yet19:06
rigo_AL13N: it regularly consumed all resources on my quadcore 8GB ram machine19:06
AL13Nno doubt about it19:06
AL13Nrigo_: i had to turn off indexing19:06
rigo_try it now, since change to baloo, it works better, but semantic capabilities are gone19:06
AL13Nmy hexcore 16GB machine too19:06
* louisdk feels kinda homeless in the land of Desktop Environments for Linux.19:07
AL13Noh19:07
AL13Nso that's baloo19:07
* rigo_ thinks the new KDE 4.11 is usable again19:07
AL13Ni've seen it ported to KF519:07
AL13Nthe kmail part is usable, but... well it still has it's issues19:07
cb400f95% of kde apps are not ported yet... and kdepim is prolly one of the bigger modules19:08
AL13Ni have a few imaps at work and i often have to set offline and back online again19:08
AL13Ncb400f: indeed19:08
rigo_yep, replaced virtuoso, the virtuose in useless resource consumption19:08
AL13Nyes19:08
AL13Nthat was good news for me when i heard that19:08
* rigo_ has done semantic web since 1999, but the KDE use was not the right thing to do, killed the nice idea of semantics on desktops and is now gone again for years to come19:09
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louisdkIf I do a backup on my Jolla device which settings ain't gonna be saved?19:24
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Shinryuudoes anyone happen to know any macros that are compatible with jolla?19:47
ShinryuuI wonder if 'universal' ones are ok to go with19:47
AL13N.spec file macros?19:55
AL13Nor?19:55
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Shinryuusome lens stuff for camera19:56
ShinryuuI tried to use lens from a dvd drive but I have to mount it somehow19:56
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AL13Noic20:09
AL13NShinryuu: like that magnetic lenses TOH thing?20:09
kimmolii use easy-macro.20:09
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ShinryuuAL13N: Well it doesn't matter if it's a clip one. I think flypig has some cases optimized for lens mounts but they are still in BETA and he's willing to fix the desing anytime soon iirc.20:15
Shinryuukimmoli: thanks for the info20:16
Shinryuualso that might work for me because I'm not a fan of flash at all20:19
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eyea_UK_jolla )0!1@ yoh20:29
eyea_UK_how is everyone!20:29
eyea_UK_?20:29
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keithzgI hope flypig gets those designs nailed down soon. I'd really love both a lens mount (which would be very fun to play around with) and a lego case.22:26
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keithzgAlthough in terms of camera bits, I actually really miss the HDR from the N900 days. It had a kindof unique overdone-but-lo-fi quality that I wouldn't wish on people as a default, but was really neat for taking more artistic photos. The best photo my parents have of the view from their apartment in Lyon is actually one I took with my N900 that way.22:29
keithzgAre there any alternate camera apps or such for SailfishOS yet?  I really do miss the crazy, admittedly often pointless things that became possible with the N900's camera.22:30
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lpotterkeithzg: there is one from the openrepos thing23:00
pahartikkeithzg: I still carry "Nokia N900" along every day, for camera and tracking purposes23:00
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FireFlyThe N900's camera is really good23:30
FireFlyOr at least, that's what I recall..23:30
keithzgIt's certainly the best 5 megapixel camera out there.23:31
FireFlyThe photos I take with the jolla seem to come out more blurry, but I'm not sure if it's due to the camera hardware (or software), or the form factor23:32
keithzgI remember pitting it against a mid-range Lumia when I was working for a phone company a few years back. The Windows phone was laughably inferior despite both being 5mp and the Lumia being by that point being literally years newer.23:32
keithzgWell, yeah, the camera button on the N900 helps a lot with movement while pressing.23:33
FireFlyYeah23:33
* keithzg misses physical camera buttons23:33
keithzgAnd the lens cover on the N900! Oh, what we've given up in the name of style and slimness.23:33
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