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| mornfall | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/07/04/1455200/qualcomm-takes-down-100-github-repositories-with-dmca-notice oh joy | 08:32 |
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| mornfall | (and my jolla was so ashamed it rebooted itself immediately upon the news... meh :P) | 08:33 |
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| Kiranos | haha | 09:51 |
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| Hartzi | lol | 10:06 |
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| M4rtinK | rofl | 10:11 |
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| tadzik | ....huh. Am I the only one around here for whom the "swipe sideways on lockscreen for ambiances" doesn't work? | 10:18 |
| tadzik | I've seen this in plenty of videos, but it does nothing on my device | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | you need to have >2 favourites afaik | 10:19 |
| FireFly | ≥2 I'm pretty sure | 10:20 |
| tadzik | 2 is fine, apparently | 10:20 |
| tadzik | thanks, that works | 10:20 |
| tadzik | not that I long for that feature, but it got my "what's wrong with me" sense tingling | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | yess | 10:21 |
| FireFly | I wish that edge action could be used for something more interesting | 10:21 |
| FireFly | But ah well, can't have it all :p | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | tadzik: did you manage to get things upgraded? | 10:21 |
| tadzik | Stskeeps: yes, I put the phone right on the AP at work, and after a reboot it upgraded nicely | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:21 |
| FireFly | I realise Jolla tries to market to less techy people too | 10:21 |
| tadzik | Stskeeps: works perfectly well now, apart from acting weird about mobile data once | 10:21 |
| tadzik | FireFly: patchmanager enables you to put settings in there | 10:22 |
| FireFly | Hm | 10:22 |
| M4rtinK | FireFly: IMHO there is quite a lot wasted potential in the edge action at the moment | 10:22 |
| tadzik | well, part of the settings, but still neat | 10:22 |
| FireFly | that's useful | 10:22 |
| tadzik | there or in the notification area, I went for the latter | 10:22 |
| FireFly | I don't use the notification area much either, so I'd go for settings then | 10:22 |
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| M4rtinK | well, there really isn't anything in the notification area anyway :) | 10:23 |
| FireFly | There probably is if you connect your Facebook and Twitter accounts to the device | 10:23 |
| M4rtinK | really hope this improves in the future | 10:23 |
| M4rtinK | well I use Twitter | 10:23 |
| M4rtinK | and not much | 10:23 |
| tadzik | huh, I made a screenshot and it's not in my gallery | 10:23 |
| FireFly | Hm, okay | 10:23 |
| M4rtinK | I think you can send tweets and get retweet notifications | 10:24 |
| tadzik | but it it *somewhere*. Where are you hiding, screenshot | 10:24 |
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| M4rtinK | but you cant even read those notifications on the screen - it switches you to browser twitter UI | 10:24 |
| tadzik | nah | 10:24 |
| tadzik | I can read them alright | 10:24 |
| M4rtinK | even if you have a real Twitter client installed | 10:25 |
| tadzik | never starts the browser | 10:25 |
| tadzik | (and I don't) | 10:25 |
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| M4rtinK | oh, right | 10:25 |
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| tadzik | ok, this is weird. I have a file in Pictures/screenshots, and the gallery is unaware of it | 10:25 |
| FireFly | well, might be an embedded browser thing | 10:25 |
| M4rtinK | mus have been some time since I've tried it last time | 10:25 |
| * Stskeeps is playing with a nokia xl and suddenly feels a lot less worse about jolla ui.. | 10:26 | |
| M4rtinK | makes the notification screen less useless :) | 10:26 |
| FireFly | Stskeeps: you shouldn't feel bad about the sailfish UI at all | 10:26 |
| tadzik | can I poke the tracker to restart itself, like on maemo? | 10:26 |
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| special | tadzik: see tracker-control, and probably also systemctl --user restart tracker.service | 10:27 |
| FireFly | tadzik: see if it registers a photo first | 10:27 |
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| FireFly | I remember someone suggesting on tjc that Gallery/Photos should only show photos, and not all pictures, but I dunno if anything came out of that | 10:28 |
| tadzik | no, it did not | 10:28 |
| FireFly | oh, okay | 10:28 |
| FireFly | then it's tracker issues I guess | 10:28 |
| tadzik | it previously worked for screenshots. I'll poke the tracker | 10:28 |
| FireFly | okay | 10:28 |
| ggabriel | how do normal users poke the tracker btw? | 10:29 |
| ggabriel | and hi everyone | 10:29 |
| ggabriel | i.e., without terminal | 10:29 |
| special | they shouldn't have to | 10:29 |
| tadzik | "Unit tracker.service failed to load: no such file or dir" | 10:29 |
| M4rtinK | for the record, tracker found some pictures that have the creation date set to the future on my Jolla | 10:29 |
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| special | tadzik: then I guess it's named something else | 10:29 |
| M4rtinK | so I now have to scroll thorugh ~10 pages in the gallery to get to latest fotos :) | 10:30 |
| tadzik | hm, should I look for it in /etc/init.d or somewhere? | 10:30 |
| M4rtinK | every time :) | 10:30 |
| special | systemctl --user | grep tracker | 10:30 |
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| M4rtinK | so some simple category selection like on the N9/N900 - all/taken by camera/other would be welcome :) | 10:30 |
| ggabriel | special: shouldn't being the key words :) | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | tadzik: init.d is so 90's, we use lennartd | 10:31 |
| tadzik | special: aha! tracker-miner-fs.service -- loaded failed fail | 10:31 |
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| tadzik | that sounds pessimistic | 10:31 |
| M4rtinK | actually some of the recently added Systemd features fit almost perfectly to Sailfish OS use cases :) | 10:32 |
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| tadzik | alright, now it found stuff | 10:32 |
| M4rtinK | that stateless stuff, NTP, DHCP, etc. | 10:32 |
| tadzik | is there no service that watches other services and pokes them when they're down? | 10:32 |
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| tadzik | Stskeeps: oh, I'm okay with this :) MTP moved the Overton's window so much recently that I consider systemd completely fine | 10:33 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, I remember reading somewhere Lennart also has a Jolla :) | 10:33 |
| tadzik | one of us, one of us.... ;) | 10:33 |
| Eztran | Well, it's got systemd on it, how could he not? | 10:33 |
| M4rtinK | exactly | 10:33 |
| tadzik | anyways, here's a promised screenshot: http://imgur.com/qCPMhqR | 10:33 |
| tadzik | FireFly: ^ | 10:33 |
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| M4rtinK | tadzik: that looks very handy! | 10:37 |
| FireFly | Oh, neat | 10:38 |
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| walokra | much more usefull than those fb/twitter stuff | 10:47 |
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| tadzik | yeah, easy access to these settings shortcuts was something I was missing from maemo/android | 10:48 |
| tadzik | now it's all there | 10:48 |
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| walokra | windows phone got that just recently with wp8.1. took couple of years for ms to implement that :) | 11:00 |
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| AL13N | Stskeeps: haha: lennartd | 11:11 |
| tadzik | . o O ( It's funny because it's true ) | 11:12 |
| M4rtinK | well, there are quite a lot of people working on systemd these days | 11:13 |
| M4rtinK | and While Lennard & Kay are probably the most active, there are many others | 11:13 |
| M4rtinK | *Lennart | 11:14 |
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| suy | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/graphs/contributors This is nice when you want to know the bus factor of a project. | 11:26 |
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| CosmicDuck | hi there, I tried to connect my jolla to my pc via bt. but the passcode was different. Now jolla says every time to reconnect the passcodes are not the same. So I want to restart the complete coupling from beginning. Any idea how I can remove the old coppling from the jolla so I can recoupling? | 12:21 |
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| Yaniel | settings -> bluetooth -> long press on device -> forget device | 12:24 |
| Yaniel | you need to have bluetooth enabled to see the list of paired devices | 12:25 |
| CosmicDuck | the problem is that the computer is not allready full paired with my jolla vice versa. | 12:28 |
| CosmicDuck | so I is shown in the "other devices in the near" section. Long pressing is not working. | 12:28 |
| CosmicDuck | I've removed the jolla device now from my computer and try it again. But the message still is the same :-( | 12:30 |
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| CosmicDuck | I tried now the coupling from my computer to my jolla. My jolla is asked from my computer for pairing so I used now 0000 as passcode and allow access. Then accept. .... | 12:34 |
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| CosmicDuck | at the moment my computer tries still to connect to my jolla :-/ | 12:34 |
| CosmicDuck | My computer is debian wheezy with kde running. 4ui | 12:35 |
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| CosmicDuck | ok, little bit stupid. repairing from my pc has now been worked. But repairing from jolla was never work if allready a pairing has to been aborted :-( | 12:41 |
| CosmicDuck | I will try to reproduce the issue | 12:41 |
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| CosmicDuck | Does anybody knows where the potcasts from qpodder are stored? On N900 there was in Podcasts directory. | 13:09 |
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| tadzik | CosmicDuck: I don't know about qpodder, but for gpodder I found them in ./.local/share/harbour-org.gpodder.sailfish/Welcome to Night Vale | 13:15 |
| tadzik | (/home/nemo/.local/...) | 13:15 |
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| CosmicDuck | ty | 13:19 |
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| tadzik | crazy shower idea: a Frankenhalf. TOH which is full of slots where you can stick any hardware you wish: a battery, an OLED, an eInk, whatever. So it would end up being like the google ara thing: http://images.designntrend.com/data/images/full/17794/google-ara-project.jpg | 13:27 |
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| M4rtinK | tadzik: yeah, that might work for some hardware | 13:32 |
| M4rtinK | tadzik: a while ago already there was an idea for a common TOH stacking interface | 13:32 |
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| M4rtinK | so you could stack additional battery/batteries on top of a TOH | 13:33 |
| M4rtinK | or reverse | 13:33 |
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| tadzik | right; I sort of expected that'd be a standard TOH feature | 13:35 |
| tadzik | Jolla feels a bit thin after the N900, I wouldn't mind putting 2 or 3 batteries on it... | 13:35 |
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| FireFly | Haha | 13:35 |
| tadzik | I once measured that the N900 was thicker than 2 macbooks airs stacked | 13:36 |
| tadzik | however you pluralize that | 13:37 |
| CosmicDuck | is there a base other half 3d file for modify and printing the other half by ourself on 3d printer available? | 13:38 |
| Yaniel | yes! there is such a thing! | 13:38 |
| Yaniel | called the TOH dev kit or so | 13:38 |
| Yaniel | http://jolla.com/the-other-half-developer-kit | 13:39 |
| CosmicDuck | thx | 13:39 |
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| AL13N | what vcard version is supported v3 or v4 or ? | 13:46 |
| AL13N | for importing contacts? | 13:46 |
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| special | good question | 13:46 |
| tadzik | hmm. I imported mine from android 4.x, it worked :o | 13:46 |
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| tadzik | no eye deer though | 13:47 |
| special | https://github.com/nemomobile/libcontacts/blob/master/src/seasidecache.cpp#L2850 shows us that it's just default versit settings | 13:48 |
| special | versit seems to support vcard 4.0 | 13:48 |
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| tadzik | I like how Sailfish is built on top of nemo and doesn't even hide it too much :) | 13:48 |
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| special | it surprises me how little people take advantage of that. | 13:49 |
| special | most of the code is on github, and all of our changes to it are made and reviewed live on github | 13:50 |
| special | you can learn almost anything you'd want to know from there | 13:50 |
| tadzik | I suppose some people may not be quite aware of it | 13:51 |
| tadzik | "Sailfish is an arcane OS with the source code available somewhere" rather than "Sailfish is this shiny QML layer on top of githubbed Nemo" | 13:51 |
| special | it is a somewhat daunting number of repositories | 13:51 |
| special | there are 166 under nemomobile, 113 under nemomobile-packages, 95 under mer-packages | 13:52 |
| special | plus mer-qt and sailfishos | 13:52 |
| tadzik | one would need a map :D | 13:53 |
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| AL13N | looks like the vcardexporter uses 3.0 | 13:55 |
| AL13N | i need to generate a vcf from some odd html backup of some of my lost contacts | 13:55 |
| AL13N | so i can import it | 13:55 |
| special | I think we export 3.0, but you can import 4.0 | 13:56 |
| special | iirc we export 3.0 because of bluetooth? | 13:56 |
| special | hm, sometimes we export 2.1 because of bluetooth | 13:56 |
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| AL13N | special: well, since i lost my sd and all backups, i'm doing what i can to get at least some contacts back | 13:59 |
| special | ouch | 13:59 |
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| AL13N | plan is to use xslt to export to: http://pastebin.com/MA3Z2Cf5 | 14:01 |
| AL13N | special: do you think this is enough to get it to import? | 14:01 |
| special | seems reasonable | 14:01 |
| special | only one way to find out | 14:01 |
| AL13N | heh | 14:01 |
| AL13N | it's gonna take a while until i can generate a proper vcf of all the contacts though | 14:01 |
| AL13N | dirty parsing .html files | 14:01 |
| AL13N | the sad part with the sd, is that i also lost my build chroots, my testing-development, etc... | 14:02 |
| AL13N | pics, videos too | 14:02 |
| AL13N | though i have most of those backupped on my server | 14:02 |
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| pdanek1 | Jolla always activates display after pulling it out of charger, is it intentional feature? Do you really like it? | 14:32 |
| stephg | what's wrong with it pdanek1? I like to know something's happened... | 14:34 |
| AJAX555 | I find it annoying | 14:34 |
| Eztran | It's pretty standard, really, annoying or no. | 14:34 |
| AJAX555 | happens when starting to charge too | 14:34 |
| stephg | to be fair it does it on power events | 14:34 |
| stephg | AJAX555: yes | 14:34 |
| stephg | (and I'd rather have that and find out that the USB I've plugged it into isn't delivering power...) | 14:35 |
| AJAX555 | I'd rather just hear a sound, and not both a sound and activated display | 14:35 |
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| AJAX555 | anyway, that's just my opinion | 14:36 |
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| tobiski | it's good to activate displqy so you can see.if anything has happened while charging. sms, email, missed calls | 14:50 |
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| Anz_ | OsmAnd not loading maps any more.. any idea? | 15:46 |
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| AL13N | special: in case you're interested, i got it working, i now have 70 contacts | 16:12 |
| AL13N | ok, i'll need to modify them abit and i lost the pictures, but still | 16:12 |
| AL13N | it's something | 16:12 |
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| AL13N | is it any use to have a class 10 microSD that could read at 80MB/s ? (sandisk)? | 16:50 |
| pdanek1 | AL13N: I think Jolla will support such speed, but I find A-Data much better value vs price. | 16:53 |
| AL13N | or does it get hotter than the lesser version | 16:53 |
| AL13N | pdanek1: in the shops that i checked, i could only find sandisk and samsung | 16:54 |
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| pdanek1 | What do you think is better, swype to unlock screen or double-tap to unlock screen? | 17:02 |
| pdanek1 | Sorry, not unlock, but to wake up screen (like on Jolla). | 17:03 |
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| M4rtinK | why not both ? | 17:10 |
| M4rtinK | provided the hardware supports it ? | 17:10 |
| M4rtinK | people might have different preferences | 17:10 |
| M4rtinK | or even use cases | 17:10 |
| pdanek1 | Sure, but to set up one of them. | 17:10 |
| M4rtinK | like use with mittens | 17:11 |
| pdanek1 | Which one would you prefer? | 17:11 |
| M4rtinK | or in a car | 17:11 |
| pdanek1 | hm | 17:11 |
| M4rtinK | both everywhere :D | 17:11 |
| M4rtinK | so I don't have to switch all the time :) | 17:11 |
| pdanek1 | Because with double-tap, I'm getting a lot of unintended wake ups. | 17:11 |
| M4rtinK | double tap is good in that you don't have to check device orientation | 17:12 |
| pdanek1 | But so I would do with swype I guess. | 17:12 |
| M4rtinK | but might be harder to do for example in a moving vehicle | 17:12 |
| M4rtinK | swipe is just one movement | 17:12 |
| M4rtinK | etc. | 17:12 |
| pdanek1 | M4rtinK: the swype is meant to any direction. | 17:12 |
| M4rtinK | BB10 has it only from bottom up IIRC | 17:12 |
| FireFly | swipe requires you to somehow "activate" the screen first, no? | 17:12 |
| M4rtinK | nope | 17:13 |
| M4rtinK | on BB10 | 17:13 |
| FireFly | Oh | 17:13 |
| M4rtinK | you swipe from bottom up and thats it | 17:13 |
| pdanek1 | FireFly: that's swipe to unlock, I speak about swipe to wake up | 17:13 |
| FireFly | Ah | 17:13 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, it is similar to Sailfish actually | 17:13 |
| FireFly | Yeah, I was going to say, it does sound similar | 17:13 |
| M4rtinK | as it is continuous | 17:13 |
| M4rtinK | so you can slide half way, check the time and then slide back to lock it again | 17:13 |
| FireFly | I think I'd be fine with both, but I haven't had any issues with double-tap so far, so.. | 17:13 |
| FireFly | that's nice | 17:14 |
| FireFly | certainly an improvement | 17:14 |
| pdanek1 | lol | 17:17 |
| M4rtinK | I kinda wonder how they detect that | 17:17 |
| pdanek1 | a thing came to my mind | 17:17 |
| M4rtinK | so that they don't run a detection algorithm all the time | 17:17 |
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| pdanek1 | M4rtinK: Jolla is also aware of location where you touch/tap, you you double tap in different places, it won't unlock, only in same spot, so Jolla could detect it as well | 17:17 |
| M4rtinK | most probably a special hardware or microcontroller that wakes up the device with an interrupt | 17:18 |
| pdanek1 | you you -> if you | 17:18 |
| M4rtinK | that's how the double tap works on the N9 IIRC | 17:18 |
| pdanek1 | Does anyone still use pagers? :O | 17:18 |
| M4rtinK | the accelerator itself can detect it and send an interrupt | 17:18 |
| M4rtinK | *accelerometer | 17:18 |
| pdanek1 | Imagine you go to phone store and ask for a new pager. | 17:20 |
| pdanek1 | o.O | 17:20 |
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| AL13N | pdanek1: your name rings a bell somewhere, but i can't place it | 17:50 |
| AL13N | maybe #lopsa ? or #mageia or maybe you're regular in #sailfishos | 17:51 |
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| pdanek1 | Ad to interchangeable battery? Really? http://youtu.be/mzMUTrTYD9s | 18:53 |
| FireFly | sadly, it's a selling point | 18:57 |
| FireFly | it shouldn't be | 18:57 |
| pdanek1 | They should rather do hot-swap batteries. | 19:00 |
| pdanek1 | And then advertise. | 19:00 |
| pdanek1 | How much hot-swap was N900? Did you ever manage to exchange battery on N900 online? | 19:01 |
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| pdanek1 | Hmm, I keep saying "was" while N900 is still very alive. :P | 19:06 |
| ln-_ | some people do not recharge their phones when they have the chance, but only when the battery is flat... so i suppose their spare battery would always be empty too. | 19:08 |
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| pdanek1 | :) | 19:15 |
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| ShadowJK | pdanek1, can be swapped with charger attached and custom software | 19:32 |
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| pdanek1 | I do think that physical keyboard on phone will have its little comeback. | 19:59 |
| pdanek1 | Same as mechanical keyboards have its comeback due to pro-gaming. | 20:00 |
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| FireFly | what would be the motivation for physical keyboards on phones? | 20:01 |
| pdanek1 | Maybe more comfortable typing experience. | 20:03 |
| FireFly | That's not a "puller" in the same way as pro gaming, I think | 20:04 |
| pdanek1 | Imagine physical keys, where each has little display + it is touch sensitive. | 20:04 |
| pdanek1 | So the characters on physical keyboard can dynamically change. | 20:04 |
| FireFly | reminds me of the optimus maximus | 20:05 |
| pdanek1 | Just that optimus maximus isn't touch-sensitive. | 20:05 |
| FireFly | I'd rather have real physical buttons | 20:05 |
| pdanek1 | What makes them less real? | 20:05 |
| pdanek1 | They're as real. | 20:06 |
| ShadowJK | you dont want to as touch sensitive as the screen | 20:06 |
| FireFly | "touch-sensitive" to me sounds like you'd lose the tacit feedback | 20:06 |
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| pdanek1 | FireFly: I don't think so. | 20:06 |
| FireFly | or do you mean being able to swipe and things on top of a key, in addition to being able to press it? | 20:07 |
| pdanek1 | Yes. | 20:07 |
| FireFly | Hm | 20:07 |
| pdanek1 | It's already coming | 20:07 |
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| pdanek1 | but not with display on each key :( | 20:07 |
| FireFly | Could be interesting, but I don't see what you can do in such a small space | 20:07 |
| pdanek1 | so text on key is fixed | 20:07 |
| pdanek1 | not small space | 20:07 |
| pdanek1 | keys are aware of each other | 20:07 |
| FireFly | I think the display-on-key thing is more interesting than the touch-sensitivity-on-keyboard | 20:07 |
| pdanek1 | so you can swipe over keys | 20:07 |
| FireFly | Hm | 20:07 |
| FireFly | doesn't the spacing between keys cause issues? | 20:08 |
| pdanek1 | seeems not, as BlackBerry has done it | 20:08 |
| pdanek1 | I just wish other manufacturers would adopt it | 20:08 |
| pdanek1 | FireFly: it's called BlackBerry Passport, release in September this year, but I wish it would have display on each key too. | 20:09 |
| FireFly | Oh, it's a phone | 20:10 |
| FireFly | I was thinking full-size keyboard | 20:10 |
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| FireFly | will be interesting to see what the reaction to it is, good to see innovation anyway | 20:11 |
| pdanek1 | FireFly: I can see it possible on full sized keyboard too | 20:11 |
| Nicd- | I want the Nokia Communicator form factor back ;) | 20:11 |
| pdanek1 | FireFly: so far people who have tried were very impressed but I guess we have too see | 20:11 |
| FireFly | Nicd-: clamshell form factor? | 20:12 |
| Nicd- | yes, but a big one. with a 1080p touch screen and full QWERTY | 20:13 |
| Nicd- | inside | 20:13 |
| pdanek1 | Yea, we all do. :( | 20:13 |
| FireFly | that would be sweet | 20:13 |
| Nicd- | and on the outside you could have a low power screen for notifications | 20:13 |
| Nicd- | and for answering calls | 20:14 |
| pdanek1 | Nicd-: that's already on market | 20:14 |
| pdanek1 | e-ink screen on back | 20:14 |
| FireFly | Like the (3)DS/Pandora, except smaller and thinner | 20:14 |
| pdanek1 | YotaPhone | 20:14 |
| pdanek1 | and YotaPhone 2 is in development | 20:15 |
| FireFly | I wonder if a clamshell TOH would be doable | 20:15 |
| FireFly | I don't see any reason for it not to be | 20:15 |
| Aciid | drill holes, attach leather | 20:15 |
| Nicd- | pdanek1: but it's not a flip phone | 20:16 |
| Aciid | hardleather would actually be neato | 20:16 |
| Aciid | https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/42829817/for-those-who-use-jolla-phones-and-follow-their | 20:16 |
| Aciid | this thread needs help | 20:16 |
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| Nicd- | that yotaphone is quite interesting, at least if someone ports sailfish for it | 20:17 |
| FireFly | since when does 4chan print the thread title/whatever in the URL? | 20:17 |
| Nicd- | with control over the eink display | 20:17 |
| Aciid | FireFly: it's a secret | 20:17 |
| entil | FireFly: (it's called a slug ;) | 20:18 |
| FireFly | ah | 20:18 |
| entil | Slug (web publishing) a user- and SEO-friendly short text used in a URL to identify and describe a resource | 20:18 |
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| FireFly | I feel sorry for moot if 4chan is still a huge single-file PHP script, like the "leaked" version sometime last year | 20:19 |
| FireFly | but I guess it's his choice | 20:19 |
| pdanek1 | https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/42829817/for-those-who-use-jolla-phones-and-follow-their --> "It's also getting swype keyboard in the next update in July." Is it? :O:O | 20:19 |
| ShadowJK | I thought he didn't do coding | 20:19 |
| Aciid | FireFly: it's not the source leak is old as potatoes | 20:20 |
| Nicd- | pdanek1: it's not | 20:20 |
| Aciid | moot has money, that site is running a full ad publishing system, theres no reason to have let it deprecate | 20:20 |
| FireFly | Aciid: oh | 20:21 |
| ShadowJK | is coda still with 4chan? | 20:21 |
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| FireFly | pdanek1: it's probably referencing the video some community member posted of their swype-y keyboard that they said they wouldn't release (at least not currently) for licensing/patent reasons | 20:22 |
| FireFly | at least, that's what I'd guess | 20:22 |
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| pdanek1 | FireFly: yea I saw the video, just got excited now that's it may be coming in official update :D | 20:23 |
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| Nicd- | pdanek1: it's not coming | 20:24 |
| FireFly | Who knows? I think it's unlikely, but if it does, that's great | 20:24 |
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| coderus | i saw in some video next sailfish update will get widgets on lockscreen, maze device lock method, flash in browser, firefox apps in browser and usb otg! 100000%! | 21:07 |
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| Nicd- | and qwerty oh for all preorderers for free | 21:09 |
| coderus | no, qwerty toh is only shop feature, it's too high costs loss if gift for preorders | 21:11 |
| coderus | (inside info from jolla, sorry) | 21:11 |
| ighea_ | why I can't have nice things :( | 21:12 |
| coderus | nice things for investors :) | 21:14 |
| pdanek1 | coderus: is next update really getting that? | 21:15 |
| pdanek1 | or it's joke? I never recognize | 21:15 |
| Nicd- | it's a joke | 21:15 |
| Nicd- | stop listening to people. they have already listed the things that are coming in the next update | 21:15 |
| ighea_ | yes, and still no official red back cover toh | 21:16 |
| Yaniel | did you mean "poppy red" | 21:17 |
| ighea_ | it is orange | 21:17 |
| Yaniel | vermilion | 21:17 |
| ighea_ | no no, there are only few colors for men and that is not clearly one of them. I say it is orange and so it shall also be. :( | 21:19 |
| coderus | vermilion? i see that word first time in my life, really! :D | 21:20 |
| ighea_ | Only true red is the color of blood and please do not try to feed me anything about royal | 21:20 |
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| FireFly | Sometimes I think I'm the only one who actually likes the colour of the LE TOH | 21:24 |
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| pp | the color is "I spent 100e and all I got was this lousy t-shirt... And this lovely phone" | 21:25 |
| pdanek1 | Is angry birds coming as native game to Jolla? | 21:27 |
| pdanek1 | Since there was some partnership with Rovio, is it still valid? | 21:27 |
| pdanek1 | Rovio was supposed to create some smart other halfs. | 21:28 |
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| ighea_ | LE TOH, heh... it is the most expensive piece of plastic I have bought to the date, so far... | 21:29 |
| coderus | pp: you didn't spent 100e for toh and t-shirt, you invested 100e and got toh and t-shirt for free as "thank you gift" | 21:29 |
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| ighea_ | and it still looks better than the white or optional aloe which I bought | 21:30 |
| coderus | Jolla costs 399e in past, you bought it for 299e because you already invested 100e as preorder ;) | 21:31 |
| coderus | telling "i bought that le toh and t-shirt for 100e" is a lie | 21:31 |
| coderus | and i hate liars | 21:31 |
| coderus | bye | 21:31 |
| FireFly | take it easy, people can make mistakes.. | 21:35 |
| pdanek1 | Rather find out, when is the Angry Birds other half coming out. :P | 21:36 |
| special | our ship never leaks :> | 21:38 |
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| pdanek1 | special: so it is coming! interesting | 21:42 |
| special | that is a strange interpretation | 21:43 |
| special | "never" and "tomorrow" would both be leaks, I'd say | 21:43 |
| pdanek1 | :D | 21:44 |
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| Yaniel | ighea_: vermilion, crimson, scarlet, ... | 22:03 |
| inte | is there any way to review a detailed call log? | 22:05 |
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| pp | some of the first one ringtones are pretty good too, I'm happy with my purchase :-) | 22:32 |
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| meklu | hmm, what the heck... | 23:10 |
| meklu | after fiddling with some i18n stuff with my application, TextSwitch components no longer have the ball next to them | 23:11 |
| meklu | it's just empty | 23:11 |
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