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| lpotter | yes, amazon store does work | 00:25 |
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| Kabouik | So there's a problem with mine, but don't know how to identify the cause | 00:26 |
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| netzvieh | Kabouik: you installed just the amazon store apk? or is there some fiddling you need to do to get it running? | 00:29 |
| Kabouik | I just installed the apk | 00:29 |
| netzvieh | well I have to wait for some jobs to finish, might aswell try to help :D | 00:30 |
| Kabouik | Time to have a shower in the meantime! :P I'll come back later and see if you're available, otherwise I'll go to sleep (early wake up in 5 hours) | 00:31 |
| netzvieh | Kabouik: well it's 2:30 am here so I won't be around for too long ;) | 00:32 |
| Kabouik | Same here! | 00:32 |
| netzvieh | well I just tried with the free app of the day | 00:36 |
| netzvieh | and it worked just fine | 00:36 |
| Kabouik | Crap | 00:36 |
| Kabouik | Well no, good | 00:36 |
| Kabouik | But it proves there's an issue with mine | 00:36 |
| Kabouik | And I have no idea what it is. Internet connection is working | 00:36 |
| netzvieh | have you tried another app? | 00:37 |
| Kabouik | Yep, a free app of the day too | 00:39 |
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| netzvieh | hmm, that's strange. I'm not sure if there's a way to log/monitor the android network stuff from the jolla side | 00:41 |
| Kabouik | I may end up removing Alien and resinstalling all from scratch, but it will be a hassle to reinstall all .apk files | 00:42 |
| Kabouik | I have an issue with Google Play crashing 100% of the time too, even after reinstallation | 00:42 |
| Kabouik | So wiping the folders corresponding to Alien on the Jolla and then reinstalling it might help | 00:42 |
| Kabouik | But I keep postponing since months :P | 00:43 |
| netzvieh | well I usually wipe once between updates, because i broke something on the device :D | 00:43 |
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| Kabouik | All my .apk files should be in /data/app so it might not be that difficult to reinstall everything | 00:45 |
| Kabouik | But my motivation is around 0 :P | 00:45 |
| netzvieh | hehe | 00:55 |
| Kabouik | Well, time to go to bed! Thanks netzvieh, good night$ | 01:04 |
| netzvieh | good night :) | 01:04 |
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| william_gen | hi,howto ssh to N4 with sailfish os? | 08:14 |
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| PaulePanter | Hi. Ordering a Jolla phone, I find it pretty perky, that it is *required* to enter a telephone number! | 08:15 |
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| william_gen | 1. Enable remote connection in Settings->System->Developer mode | 08:16 |
| william_gen | 2. Set your USB interface on host machine to IP 192.168.2.2 | 08:16 |
| PaulePanter | I hope Sailfish OS is less interested in my privacy. Almost stopped me from buying the Jolla phone. | 08:16 |
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| william_gen | BUT where to set USB interface on host machine IP ? | 08:16 |
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| dunp | ifconfig on linux | 08:20 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | PaulePanter: That would be for the courier when they send out the phone. AFAIK, EVERYONE needs to give a phone number when sending larger parcels through mail or courier | 08:20 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Its not Joll, its simply the law | 08:21 |
| PaulePanter | MFaro-Tusino: No other online shop forced me to give my phone number. | 08:23 |
| PaulePanter | *has ever forced | 08:23 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Online shops for mobile phones? | 08:23 |
| PaulePanter | MFaro-Tusino: No, for TVs or other PC parts. | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | fwiw, we ship with courier, and they very often require phone number as addresses etc get messed up, and calling makes sure people are home | 08:24 |
| PaulePanter | Stskeeps: Well, then it is my problem. I should not be forced to give it. Simple as that. Privacy is more important. | 08:24 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Never NOT been asked for my number for ordering anything online worth more than $100 | 08:24 |
| PaulePanter | You can give a note, saying you recommend it and that is better for the package to get delivered. | 08:24 |
| MFaro-Tusino | But everyone is entitled to their personal preference on privacy | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, -- you can try to contact care about this topic | 08:25 |
| PaulePanter | Stskeeps, MFaro-Tusino: I’ll do that. | 08:25 |
| PaulePanter | Thanks everyone. | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | (also, this isn't an official support channel) | 08:25 |
| PaulePanter | Stskeeps: Is there an official one? I guess only mail, right? | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | mail is only real way in practice, for this kind of thing :) | 08:26 |
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| chem|st | if it is the law... why wasn't I asked for a number when importing stuff with special care at the airport (importing laboratory equipment of the red list, €15k)? | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know about it being the law, fwiw | 09:19 |
| chem|st | well, it's not the law, obviously ;) | 09:19 |
| chem|st | PaulePanter: do you have friends with whatsapp and facebook? | 09:19 |
| chem|st | or hike.in or something? | 09:20 |
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| chem|st | once your data is uploaded to one of them you may stop pcaring about your data, I got a voucher from a pornsite for my 28th birthday to my private email, with my name spelled right, with the correct birthday... invitations to IM services via SMS, notifying me about friends using it (nickname or even realname) | 09:24 |
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| ggabriel | chem|st: are you saying that you only have one real name???!!! :-) | 09:26 |
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| stephg | and does it have a pipe in it ;) | 09:27 |
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| netzvieh | regarding the tel# guy ^ when I'm forced and don't want to give it, I give a fake number? where's the problem with that? | 09:48 |
| ggabriel | nothing afaik | 09:48 |
| ggabriel | they just can't contact you to offer great deals | 09:48 |
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| netzvieh | well the only one trying to contact me via phone for ads is my soon ex-ISP wanting me to stay, but I usually don't give my tel# | 09:50 |
| netzvieh | 10min till meeting :) | 09:50 |
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| rangoy | give a fake number when you order, suddenly your jolla is delivered to some random luck bastard :) | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | remember, community meeting in 6 minutes in #mer-meeting | 09:54 |
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| walokra | easier to just read the meetup notes than idle :) | 10:08 |
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| chem|st | ggabriel: nope I do have several... but the one used in the mail is the one of my birthcertificate... | 10:09 |
| chem|st | netzvieh: soon ex isp? | 10:10 |
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| netzvieh | chem|st: switching my internet service provider | 10:14 |
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| chem|st | netzvieh: and that got your mobile number? | 10:26 |
| chem|st | or landline | 10:27 |
| netzvieh | landline, since i head landline with them aswell | 10:27 |
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| PaulePanter | chem|st: I think so, but I do not use these services myself. | 10:42 |
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| PaulePanter | chem|st: Do you mean these services harvest my phone number despite they should not? | 10:42 |
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| pp | 10:48 | |
| netzvieh | PaulePanter: if your friends have fb app on their phone, fb has your tel# and other stuff | 10:48 |
| PaulePanter | netzvieh: That’s unfortunate. Thank you. I suspected it, but never heard it directly. | 10:49 |
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| PaulePanter | Anyway, Jolla should set a good example and give me more reasons to tell my friends about good things to convince them to buy a Jolla phone. | 10:50 |
| PaulePanter | Just for your interest, I contacted care@jolla.com and they forwarded the request to the security team. | 10:51 |
| chem|st | PaulePanter: they harvest phonebooks, so if any of your friends has your name and number they have your name and number | 10:51 |
| PaulePanter | I also asked them to create a GnuPG key for <care@jolla.com>. | 10:51 |
| PaulePanter | chem|st: Yes, thanks for making me aware of that. | 10:52 |
| chem|st | PaulePanter: how do you think hike.in got my name and number to send me a SMS? | 10:52 |
| PaulePanter | chem|st: No idea. I never heard about “hike.in” before. | 10:53 |
| chem|st | you may take care of your privacy as good as you can, but a single friend who does not take care fscks you over for good | 10:53 |
| PaulePanter | chem|st: I know. | 10:53 |
| chem|st | PaulePanter: hike.in is just another whatsapp | 10:53 |
| PaulePanter | chem|st: I see. | 10:53 |
| chem|st | proprietary IM | 10:53 |
| PaulePanter | chem|st: Still, I am an optimist and hope hike.in and Facebook won’t give access to third party or Jolla. So chances are a little higher less people, I do not want to have my number, know my number. | 10:55 |
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| Aard | PaulePanter: well, you should hope that they do give us permission to integrate it properly, as the integrated service won't do bad things with your data :p | 10:57 |
| netzvieh | Aard: "signondb accessible": This will be changed in the upcoming update, with a bigger change in privilege handling. This is code was inherited from the N9 (masked by aegis there), and is shared with Ubunutu (the privilege control bit is Jolla specific, though) -- could you elaborate a bit more? :) | 10:59 |
| Aard | on which bit? | 11:00 |
| netzvieh | the planned privilege handling | 11:00 |
| tango_ | planned parenthood | 11:01 |
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| Aard | netzvieh: the original privilege handling was basically a quick hack to make things suck less + conform with some TOS. what we did now was auditing all services requiring something with privileges, still using the same technology, and tie down privileges on several locations + adjust services when necessary. together with that we're introducing stuff like an unprivileged contacts database | 11:08 |
| netzvieh | Aard: thanks :) | 11:10 |
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| Yaniel | can haz meeting logs? | 12:42 |
| ggabriel | Yaniel: they normally email them to devel-sailfish | 12:42 |
| ggabriel | with a link and whatnot | 12:42 |
| Yaniel | someone might have had the link at hand here too | 12:43 |
| Yaniel | whatever | 12:43 |
| ggabriel | it wasn't emailed yet | 12:43 |
| Yaniel | (I'm not on the list) | 12:43 |
| ggabriel | Yaniel: i'll share when i get it then :) | 12:44 |
| Yaniel | okay, thanks :) | 12:44 |
| SK_work | ggabriel: Yaniel http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-05-06-10.00.log.html | 12:45 |
| ggabriel | SK_work: thanks | 12:46 |
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| Yaniel | ty | 12:47 |
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| SK_work | pvuorela: can you come on #sailfishos ? :) | 13:01 |
| pvuorela | sure. | 13:01 |
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| raa70 | goddamn reboots | 15:26 |
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| Yaniel | *sigh* someone could tell tracker that this is not even fun anymore | 17:08 |
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| Yaniel | removed the files, rsynced them back, restarted tracker | 17:28 |
| Yaniel | and guess what: nothing in media player | 17:28 |
| Yaniel | and one stuck tracker-extract process | 17:28 |
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| Anz_ | where to find mitakuuluu support? | 18:00 |
| slate | From coderus | 18:00 |
| raa70 | tmo thread | 18:02 |
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| coderus | :) | 18:42 |
| slate | helpdesk closed? | 18:43 |
| slate | :D | 18:43 |
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| Yaniel | doesn't seem like it is indexing the sd card after all? | 19:11 |
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| Yaniel | lots of "extraction task went rogue and took more than 20 seconds" in journal | 19:16 |
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| Yaniel | and then "Got second extraction DBus error on" a lot of files | 19:19 |
| Yaniel | and then nothing else happens | 19:19 |
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| tango_ | hm does the builtin browser support webrtc? | 20:09 |
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| Eztran | HTML5test suggests not. | 20:12 |
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| Turski | http://turski.dy.fi/foo/kappyra.png | 22:58 |
| Turski | my first battery curve \o | 22:58 |
| Turski | time to go sleep now... | 22:58 |
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