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| junnuvi | ln-: late answer: All fields description/title/summary are filled in. I think title will fail for apps which has description/summary in both languages.. | 06:25 |
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| ln- | but not my app for some reason. | 06:25 |
| junnuvi | what is your app? | 06:26 |
| ln- | Sailfactor | 06:26 |
| junnuvi | can you define title for both languages? | 06:26 |
| ln- | no, there's only one title field. | 06:27 |
| junnuvi | yes | 06:28 |
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| junnuvi | hmm, I can see only english descriptions for sailfactor | 06:28 |
| HtheB | Elleo: good morning | 06:29 |
| junnuvi | I quess store will try to add finnish title if descripton etc are available in finnish. But as there is only one title available it will not work. | 06:30 |
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| kimmoli | i can see Sailfactor description in Finnish, as my accound language is in finnish, but i can see also the title. | 06:37 |
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| junnuvi | kimmoli: strange, my account is finnish but Sailfactor description is in English :o | 06:40 |
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| kimmoli | i changed the language back and forth, and language was changed in jolla-store after re-entering jolla account credentials | 06:41 |
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| junnuvi | hmm, for example Sarevo News has finnish description and working title so my logic is not working | 06:45 |
| junnuvi | there is some king randomtitleandlaguagegenerator is store :P | 06:46 |
| junnuvi | king=kind | 06:46 |
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| Quu | coderus: should i use the "old" mitakuuluu or the mitakuuluu2? | 07:39 |
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| Waitee | i believe the "first generation" mitäkuuluu doesnt get much updates anymore | 07:40 |
| Quu | mm'kay | 07:40 |
| Waitee | and mitäkuuluu2 works better than the first one | 07:41 |
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| Quu | okay, i think thats enough info for that :) | 07:41 |
| kimmoli | ... is the 3rd gen called "kuisheiluu" ? | 07:41 |
| Quu | ha | 07:42 |
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| Quu | "teksiviesti" | 07:42 |
| Waitee | kimmoli: also known as morojäbät | 07:42 |
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| kimmoli | i was just wondering what is the name of Younited communiy app? "sinätin" ? | 07:43 |
| pp | kuidaskäsikäib | 07:43 |
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| kimmoli | pp: Ma ei räägi eesti keelt | 07:45 |
| coderus | Quu: Waitee: :) | 07:46 |
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| Acce | "Sinyhdessä" | 07:47 |
| Quu | coderus: so, 2 = 1? | 07:48 |
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| coderus | 1 = 1, 2 = 2, imho | 07:48 |
| coderus | but i'm not sure if understood you orrectly | 07:49 |
| Quu | probably not, it was lame joke | 07:49 |
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| pp | probably only works in finnish ;) | 07:50 |
| Quu | yeah | 07:51 |
| Quu | anyways, changed to 2 already and it looks more fancy | 07:51 |
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| coderus | :) | 07:55 |
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| kimmoli | my daughter uses mitakuuluu, and gotm mostly positive feedback about mitakuuluu2 .. only negative was that cyan led was green | 07:59 |
| kimmoli | Conversation, me "there is an update to mitakuuluu" she "what, again..." | 07:59 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: led color can be changed in settings | 08:06 |
| kimmoli | yep, it said Cyan but it was green | 08:07 |
| coderus | and well, while there is any bugs updates are coming :) | 08:07 |
| coderus | kimmoli: mh | 08:07 |
| coderus | hm* | 08:07 |
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| kimmoli | then i did all them, cyan -> blue, then it was blue | 08:07 |
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| coderus | 00ffff cyan | 08:08 |
| coderus | isnt it? | 08:08 |
| kimmoli | yes | 08:08 |
| kimmoli | and i have my own app to set what ever color to that led, and i can get that cyan there | 08:08 |
| kimmoli | but... i didn't test to cahnge it back to cyan | 08:09 |
| coderus | did you tested your app in blinking mode? | 08:09 |
| kimmoli | öö no. afaik blinks kan be only 'primary colors' of rgb led | 08:09 |
| coderus | exactly | 08:10 |
| kimmoli | byt 00ffff is one of them | 08:10 |
| coderus | yes and it should be okay | 08:10 |
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| kimmoli | i have to check it by changing it to cyan. when i have hands on that phone | 08:11 |
| coderus | well, for me cyan and blue are different colors in led | 08:12 |
| kimmoli | or should i register on kuidaskäsikäib to test it myself ... | 08:12 |
| coderus | maybe it was some of old versions with bug in saving colors settings | 08:12 |
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| kimmoli | 6.3 iirc | 08:13 |
| kimmoli | it was the initial setting | 08:13 |
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| coderus | initial settings was red for private messages | 08:16 |
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| kimmoli | installed, now i need some friends :) | 08:17 |
| Waitee | :D | 08:18 |
| coderus | :) | 08:19 |
| coderus | i'm stuck at this too | 08:19 |
| kimmoli | "add number" from pull down does nothing? | 08:19 |
| coderus | only have 5 contacts and because of that can't reproduce same problems with > 200 contacts users | 08:19 |
| Nicd- | maybe you should create fake contacts? | 08:20 |
| Nicd- | for testing | 08:20 |
| coderus | kimmoli: it opening your phonebook | 08:20 |
| coderus | Nicd-: fake doesnt work :) | 08:20 |
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| kimmoli | i can see the list of all my contacts, but in that page there is pulldown with "add number" (lisää numero ) and that just does nothing | 08:21 |
| Acce | coderus: ask people at github / tjc to add your phone number to their contacts for testing? you could get a prepaid sim for that maybe | 08:22 |
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| kimmoli | heh, i did select update all ... wow there is so many using WU, even our CEO ... :) | 08:24 |
| coderus | kimmoli: thanks, its a bug :) | 08:24 |
| coderus | Acce: ha, no, thanks :D | 08:24 |
| kimmoli | heh. i used it for 10 sec, and found first one | 08:24 |
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| coderus | just nobody touched that item :D | 08:25 |
| coderus | ReferenceError: addContact is not defined | 08:25 |
| coderus | wasnt reimplemented since old UI | 08:25 |
| kimmoli | ouk. i got already 40 contacts. | 08:26 |
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| coderus | Acce: i banned many peoples flooding my number with stupid questions after publishing my number for harmattan client testing :D | 08:28 |
| Waitee | coderus: how about a prepaid number? | 08:29 |
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| coderus | Waitee: well, there are no such critical bugs to do that :) | 08:31 |
| Waitee | true | 08:31 |
| Waitee | :) | 08:31 |
| kimmoli | coderus: hmm, cyan works initially here. maybe it was user error .. | 08:31 |
| Nicd- | coderus: what's the difference between the "Here" and "Nokia" map sources? | 08:32 |
| Nicd- | since Here is Nokia's... | 08:32 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: but they not merged map data and it still provides different map images | 08:33 |
| coderus | you can check it yourself | 08:33 |
| coderus | open sharing location from cover | 08:34 |
| Nicd- | ok | 08:35 |
| coderus | there is a button you can change map source | 08:35 |
| coderus | and you will see difference between nokia and here providers | 08:35 |
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| spiiroin | coderus: I'm kind of hoping you're not blindly restarting mce after led color settings are changed ... | 08:36 |
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| Sail0r | MAybe should also start a Smash your phone campaign | 08:49 |
| Sail0r | with a special smash toh ^^ | 08:49 |
| Sail0r | or the other way around a recycling campaign | 08:49 |
| Sail0r | because one gets so much critics because of phones getting smashed | 08:50 |
| Sail0r | http://oneplus.net/smash | 08:51 |
| Acce | smash TOH: huge hammer with a hydraulic joint, killswitch app | 08:52 |
| Acce | also works for self-defense | 08:52 |
| Acce | personally I am against smashing perfectly working devices | 08:52 |
| Acce | what a waste of resources | 08:52 |
| covox | exactly | 08:55 |
| covox | they don't burn for nearly as long as when they're in one piece | 08:55 |
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| Sail0r | that's why jolla should start a counter campaign | 08:57 |
| Sail0r | pimp your perfectly working phone with sailfishos or smth | 08:57 |
| Sail0r | without wasting resources | 08:57 |
| covox | and then start a bonfire with the incompatible ones | 08:58 |
| Sail0r | :P | 08:58 |
| Acce | or they give a Jolla or TOH or something for people who use old hardware for something useful | 08:58 |
| Acce | "Save the world" campaign | 08:58 |
| Sail0r | like my n900 which works as sms sender for my homeserver? ^^ | 08:59 |
| Acce | yep | 08:59 |
| covox | offer a limited edition TOH to the first person to come up with a cure for cancer | 08:59 |
| Acce | I bet any "useless" android phone could be used as mobile modem or sms sender or such too | 08:59 |
| Sail0r | sure | 09:01 |
| Sail0r | I gave my old nokia whatever away as a emergency phone for a charity project | 09:02 |
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| Sail0r | they give away old nokias and android phones with a custom rom with huge buttons for older people to call emergency | 09:03 |
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| coderus | btw, ncdu for sailfish: https://openrepos.net/content/nieldk/ncdu | 09:25 |
| coderus | spiiroin: no :) | 09:26 |
| coderus | i'm using profiled | 09:26 |
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| coderus | storing led pattern name here | 09:26 |
| coderus | and loading pattern in ngfd config from profile | 09:26 |
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| coderus | spiiroin: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/blob/master/server/events/mitakuuluu_private.ini and https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/blob/master/server/patterns/60-mitakuuluu_led.ini and https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/blob/master/server/events/mitakuuluu_private.ini | 09:28 |
| coderus | oops, twice, third: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/blob/master/server/profiled/60.mitakuuluu.ini | 09:29 |
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| spiiroin | coderus: so switching between predefined patterns, not changing one pattern - should be ok | 09:59 |
| coderus | spiiroin: ye, i'm doing exactly same :) | 10:04 |
| chem|st | calendar-alarm showing on locked device... when I touched it it disappeared... | 10:05 |
| chem|st | and somehow birthday calendar started an alarm (maybe I toggled the bitch often enough now) | 10:06 |
| spiiroin | ... but if every app starts to define N patterns ... moving pattern data to runtime changeable config side sounds more appealing that before. | 10:07 |
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| coderus | spiiroin: well, actually there is just 7 available colors for blink mode | 10:25 |
| coderus | it it will be defined in system by default it will be good :) | 10:26 |
| coderus | if it* | 10:26 |
| coderus | spiiroin: also i see no reason why its stricted (by controller?) | 10:27 |
| coderus | using simple script i can set brightness values to /sys leds values and it changing color very smooth | 10:27 |
| coderus | i'd like to see support for more advanced led pattern in future | 10:28 |
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| spiiroin | coderus: what I meant is led control does O(n) processing, where N = number of patterns configured. Now, if number of patterns defined gets to be num_of_apps * 7_or_more just to allow apps to select pattern color at runtime -> at some point we're spending too much cpu time to iterate over patterns that are never actually used | 10:42 |
| spiiroin | the 7 colors for blinking is due to hw, more info at together | 10:43 |
| spiiroin | https://together.jolla.com/question/32529/make-the-led-breathe-like-n900/ | 10:43 |
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| coderus | spiiroin: for breathing its not | 11:02 |
| coderus | spiiroin: check this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7351709/ | 11:03 |
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| coderus | more breathing example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7351733/ | 11:10 |
| coderus | spiiroin: so, in my opinion its just poor-coded | 11:11 |
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| spiiroin | coderus: you see the for loop in that script | 11:12 |
| spiiroin | now if we suspend the device, what happens? | 11:12 |
| spiiroin | the pattern freezes, because the cpu no longer changes the color intensities | 11:14 |
| coderus | spiiroin: i know | 11:15 |
| coderus | i'm talking about more flexible patterns logics | 11:16 |
| coderus | there is no limits in hw, its a lie | 11:16 |
| spiiroin | ok, I stand corrected | 11:16 |
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| coderus | please vote: https://together.jolla.com/question/4957/bug-unable-to-create-two-avatars-from-single-image/ | 11:27 |
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| Nicd- | hmmm, my jolla started showing one of my google calendars on its own (it was synced before too but no events were shown) :) | 11:35 |
| pp | sounds typical :-) | 11:36 |
| Nicd- | I was just going to remove and readd the account | 11:36 |
| pp | hmn, mine is now missing events again | 11:37 |
| Nicd- | I added an event to that specific calendar today and it synced fine to google, maybe that has something to do with it | 11:37 |
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| pp | there's a magic sqlite that may help | 11:38 |
| Nicd- | I did that already for my other google account | 11:41 |
| pp | hmn yea, it's again getting duplicate (or triplicate) events and then not showing them | 11:42 |
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| Yaniel | hmm removed my exchange account and re-added it and now the duplicate calendar is gone :3 | 11:43 |
| Nicd- | hope these bugs are fixed in the near future | 11:43 |
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| pp | hmn, rm gcal.ini and resaving account made it maybe work | 11:45 |
| pp | maybe with dbus-send --session --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.meego.msyncd /synchronizer com.meego.msyncd.startSync string:'google.Calendars' | 11:45 |
| pp | extra copy of event in sqlite | 11:46 |
| pp | and I still can't really rely on the calendar :( | 11:46 |
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| meek_geek | what is up | 15:56 |
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| Nicd- | that ^ | 15:57 |
| meek_geek | Nicd-, is he james bond ? | 15:57 |
| jmlich | Nicd-, Do you have correctly configured time on you computer? | 15:58 |
| Nicd- | jmlich: yes | 15:58 |
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| jmlich | so, maybe incorrect time at server. I am in CEST time zone. Are you pointing on the time? | 15:59 |
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| Nicd- | jmlich: no | 16:01 |
| jmlich | so, what is the question? | 16:01 |
| Nicd- | meek_geek asked what was up. that was the line that was above his question | 16:01 |
| jmlich | Ach, I see | 16:02 |
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| meek_geek | Nicd-, I see | 16:07 |
| Nicd- | seems it was the worst joke ever | 16:08 |
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| meek_geek | Nicd-, oh | 16:10 |
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| Quu | Aard: care replied (after 2 weeks waiting) and told me to send the phone to optima service. | 16:34 |
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| flanag | Quu: Can I ask what's the problem? | 16:35 |
| Quu | flanag: random shutdowns | 16:35 |
| Quu | talked with Aard and he said its ok to swap phone trough him, but care seems to ignore everything i say to them | 16:35 |
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| flanag | Quu: I've been wondering about the service too as I have the loose battery too, causing the random shutdowns | 16:36 |
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| flanag | I wonder how they can even fix that? By giving me a new device? | 16:37 |
| Quu | that MIGHT help | 16:37 |
| flanag | (I have done the paper trick but it's not acceptable for a 400€ phone..) | 16:37 |
| Quu | i just kinda want to swap phone so Jolla people can look at my phone | 16:37 |
| flanag | so I want it serviced properly | 16:37 |
| Quu | but if i send it to optima, they will just do whatever they do with it | 16:38 |
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| flanag | I think someone said that Optima molded some plastic to the phone to make the battery fit better.. | 16:38 |
| Quu | lol | 16:38 |
| flanag | that doesn't sound too good for me | 16:38 |
| Quu | i dont have that kind of problem | 16:38 |
| Quu | battery doesnt even have any space to move around | 16:38 |
| flanag | it's already been confirmed | 16:39 |
| flanag | that the battery is the problem | 16:39 |
| flanag | I know it doesn't move at all | 16:39 |
| flanag | but it's still not close enough | 16:39 |
| flanag | I think I've seen a message that said that they investigated it already | 16:40 |
| Quu | i just want working phone :p | 16:40 |
| Quu | had 4 shutdowns today again | 16:40 |
| flanag | I never believed myself that it would be the battery (as it seemed to fit so well) but it is that.. | 16:40 |
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| raa70 | i had 4-5 hangs(red led blinking) today | 16:41 |
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| raa70 | 2 times with alarms and 3 with mitäkuuluu | 16:41 |
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| LuckyY | Hi, Is there an reliable way to fix the damned reboot issue? (running latest version) | 16:44 |
| LuckyY | Could not find anything on the wiki | 16:44 |
| flanag | LuckyY: fold some paper to the bottom of the battery to bring it closer to the top | 16:45 |
| flanag | ... | 16:45 |
| Quu | maybe i should try that too | 16:45 |
| Quu | if it fixes the problem, im fine with it | 16:46 |
| LuckyY | srsly? | 16:46 |
| flanag | yes.. | 16:46 |
| flanag | it's on together | 16:46 |
| flanag | an official answer from Jolla Care too | 16:46 |
| Quu | thats how i fixed my zte blade and htc desire z | 16:46 |
| LuckyY | Ah | 16:46 |
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| flanag | Quu, LuckyY, found the official answer: "Jolla care answered to my request (thanks guys!) and wrote following: | 16:48 |
| flanag | "Take a piece of paper, fold it so that it becomes 0.5-1 millimeters thick. Then insert this folded paper between the bottom part of the battery and the phone body. The idea is to press the battery tightly upwards against the battery contacts of the phone body (see the attached picture). | 16:48 |
| flanag | We have measured that if the contact of the battery to the phone body is loose (although it does not seem to be loose), then the impedance over this connection is higher and can cause a voltage drop in some current peak situations, making the phone eventually turn off as the voltage drops momentarily under the allowed minimum level. Then use your phone normally (with mobile data) in those same conditions where your phone usually | 16:48 |
| flanag | reboots. Observe if the reboots continue or not. Thanks a lot!" | 16:48 |
| flanag | I haven't had any reboots or battery level drops since I added that piece of paper - but it only has been a couple hours so far. The next days will show if this is a solution to those battery problems. Please try the same and share your experiences with a comment below this answers. Good luck :-)" | 16:48 |
| Quu | hmph | 16:48 |
| Quu | yeah, sounds logical | 16:48 |
| LuckyY | Do you have a link for the picture? | 16:48 |
| flanag | no I don't, as the guy who posted that had taken it straight from a message from Jolla | 16:49 |
| flanag | so he didn't attach the picture | 16:49 |
| LuckyY | ah | 16:49 |
| flanag | but it's the bottom of the battery | 16:50 |
| flanag | the narrow side | 16:50 |
| flanag | the point is to bring it closer to the connectors | 16:50 |
| LuckyY | yeah | 16:50 |
| Nicd- | luckily my reboots have stopped on their own, possibly the battery connects better now | 16:50 |
| Nicd- | how I wish hardware was always optimal in real life :) | 16:51 |
| flanag | Nicd-: it's only a matter of time that you'll see a reboot again | 16:51 |
| Quu | Nicd-: mine were gone for ~2 weeks again | 16:51 |
| Quu | yeah. | 16:51 |
| Nicd- | flanag: I have not had them since the week before 1.0.4 | 16:51 |
| flanag | maybe the temperatures affect that | 16:51 |
| flanag | (if you live in Finland or somewhere close) | 16:52 |
| flanag | it's not so cold anymore | 16:52 |
| LuckyY | patch inplace lets see :) | 16:53 |
| flanag | I wonder if Jolla will post an announcement about this | 16:53 |
| Quu | oh god, you can fit so much paper in there | 16:53 |
| flanag | Quu: how many times could you fold the paper? | 16:54 |
| flanag | mine is folded twice I think | 16:54 |
| Quu | 4 :p | 16:54 |
| flanag | wat | 16:54 |
| Quu | indeed | 16:54 |
| Quu | erh no. 8 layers | 16:54 |
| Quu | i dont know | 16:54 |
| flanag | are you putting the paper on the "bottom" (the narrow end opposite to the connectors)? | 16:55 |
| Quu | paper i used is watermarked official papers from bank of helsinki | 16:55 |
| Quu | yes | 16:55 |
| flanag | how can you put 8 layers there | 16:55 |
| Quu | use the force luke | 16:55 |
| flanag | I used the force (when testing) and I nearly got my battery stuck there | 16:55 |
| Quu | yeah its probably stuck | 16:56 |
| LuckyY | folded 2 times here | 16:56 |
| Quu | this paper might be bit thinner than normal A4 | 16:56 |
| flanag | must be | 16:56 |
| flanag | I love how I also fixed my rattling volume rocker with paper | 16:56 |
| flanag | my Jolla is filled with paper | 16:57 |
| Quu | ha | 16:57 |
| Quu | how did you do that? | 16:57 |
| flanag | a small piece of paper (folded maybe once) stuck inside the small "hole" | 16:57 |
| flanag | (I left a tab there so I can pull it out) | 16:58 |
| flanag | but it tightens the hole so the rocker can't shake anymore | 16:58 |
| flanag | I did this already in December and it's been fine since then | 16:58 |
| Quu | need to test that too :p | 16:59 |
| flanag | it just feels bad that I have to do this (especially the battery paper) with a 400€ phone | 16:59 |
| Quu | meh, thats how you fix things | 17:00 |
| Quu | i have 300e headphones, they stay together with duct-tape and zip-ties | 17:01 |
| flanag | lol | 17:01 |
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| Pnuu | the holy pair, duct-tape and zip-lock ties | 17:03 |
| Quu | yuuup | 17:03 |
| tbr | I thought it was duct-tape and WD40 | 17:04 |
| tbr | one for when it shouldn't move and the other for when it should | 17:04 |
| Yaniel | and if it does not help, just add more | 17:04 |
| ln- | "Voit käyttää pakkaamiseen laitteen myyntipakkausta, mikäli se on tallella. [...] Laite tulee toimittaa Optima Servicen huoltoon kirjelähetyksellä [...] Itella Oyj:n kirjepostin maksimikoko on 250 mm x 400 mm x 30 mm" | 17:05 |
| ln- | did someone's jolla come in an original box that is at most 30 mm thick? | 17:06 |
| flanag | hah | 17:06 |
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| flanag | they didn't think those instructions through | 17:06 |
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| Quu | yeah i got similar | 17:07 |
| flanag | ln-: is your Jolla going to the service because of the shutdowns or something else? | 17:09 |
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| ln- | flanag: sim card holder issue | 17:09 |
| flanag | ln-: I'm also suffering from that.. | 17:10 |
| flanag | I wish they would just give me a new device | 17:10 |
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| Scelt | ln-: do you have that mudguard holding the sim card still? | 18:35 |
| ln- | a what? | 18:36 |
| Scelt | a rubber flipflap | 18:36 |
| Scelt | semmonen perhanan kumpiläpyskä | 18:37 |
| Scelt | I was just wondering how sim card could escape the holder | 18:37 |
| flanag | Scelt: it's not really "escaping", it's just moving around which causes a disconnection | 18:38 |
| ln- | ah, yes, there's a kumiläpyskä. but it's not that the sim escapes the holder, it's just that the contacts are somehow bad. | 18:38 |
| flanag | yeah, the "golden triangle" in the corner | 18:38 |
| flanag | that's the problem | 18:38 |
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| Scelt | okay | 18:38 |
| Scelt | I'm just having issues that sometimes jolla drops the gsm connection but it's not whining about any sim card issues | 18:39 |
| ln- | it doesn't even need to visibly move... if i have the back cover off, just touching the sim a bit makes it disconnect. | 18:39 |
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| flanag | ln-: same here | 18:39 |
| Scelt | ln-: does jolla whine that sim card connection lost? | 18:39 |
| ln- | Scelt: yes. | 18:39 |
| ln- | and i need to re-enter the pin. | 18:39 |
| Scelt | okay, I'm not having that problem then | 18:39 |
| Scelt | just bad connection sometimes I guess | 18:40 |
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| Nicd- | it's the little touches :) anyone called 112 / 911 on their jolla yet? | 20:56 |
| Nicd- | I just did today | 20:56 |
| suosaask1 | was there something special? | 20:57 |
| Nicd- | yeah | 20:57 |
| Nicd- | the color scheme turns completely red | 20:57 |
| Nicd- | and it reads in the middle "Do not end the call until you are given permission" | 20:58 |
| Nicd- | or something to that effect | 20:58 |
| Nicd- | I thought it was a nice touch | 20:58 |
| joonahoi | Well, did you? | 20:58 |
| joonahoi | wait for the permission, i mean | 20:59 |
| Nicd- | yes :D | 20:59 |
| joonahoi | :D | 20:59 |
| Nicd- | of course | 20:59 |
| suosaask1 | well, as long as that call works, every time, without a glitch... | 20:59 |
| walokra | how do you see the text/color if you're speaking to the phone :) | 20:59 |
| Nicd- | walokra: right before putting it to my ear | 21:00 |
| Nicd- | but I didn't have time to take a screenshot... :P | 21:00 |
| walokra | you could have put it on speaker phone :) | 21:02 |
| suosaask1 | by the way, if you lock your device (with a security code), what is the emergency call selection like on Jolla? | 21:02 |
| Nicd- | I would imagine it's like when you are unlocking your SIM card | 21:03 |
| special | there is a button which allows you to dial emergency numbers | 21:04 |
| Nicd- | yeah | 21:05 |
| Nicd- | I clicked it by accident one time <_< | 21:05 |
| Nicd- | and the "call" after that | 21:06 |
| Nicd- | managed to end it before it connected though | 21:06 |
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| mtd | anyone know of a simple pyotherside application (ideally suitable for on-device tweaking / development)? | 21:52 |
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| mtd | (this is the best single set of instructions so far: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1413330&postcount=64 ) | 22:11 |
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