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| kimmoli | i missed this hackday, hope the next one is already in planning... | 05:26 |
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| AL13N | Sage-: ping | 08:56 |
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| AL13N | Sage-: i notice that wlan is doing constantly direct scans for all remembered wlans? | 08:57 |
| AL13N | Sage-: wouldn't it be better to scan passively (broadcast) instead of that, with once in a while a direct scan of remembered wlans? | 08:57 |
| AL13N | and, when actually connected, to scan less frequently unless a beacon has been dropped? | 08:58 |
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| AL13N | that is to say, when associated, it would seem to be more efficient to scan the the essid, (in case you move into a region with a different bssid having the same essid and higher quality? | 09:00 |
| AL13N | iinm this kind of approach would probably draw less power and have a bit higher throughput of data | 09:01 |
| AL13N | (or possibly less collisions) | 09:01 |
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| sardini | hello, why is 'import QtGraphicalEffects 1.0' don't working anymore ? | 10:24 |
| Yaniel | define "don't working" | 10:24 |
| sardini | zypper in qt5-qtgraphicaleffects tell me is ok and installed | 10:24 |
| Yaniel | and this is more a question for #sailfishos | 10:25 |
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| sardini | Yaniel, underligned on qtcreator and an error at compil | 10:25 |
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| ggabriel | o/ | 10:25 |
| Yaniel | I still don't know anything about the problem | 10:25 |
| sardini | module "QtGraphicalEffects" is not installed | 10:25 |
| sardini | I need/want use: RectangularGlow{} | 10:27 |
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| Yaniel | is it installed on the emulator or sdk vm? | 10:28 |
| sardini | on both | 10:28 |
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| sardini | it's ok now, need to restart the vm ... Don't ask me why, I don't know :) | 10:30 |
| sardini | thank you Yaniel | 10:30 |
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| Acce | was the lipstick "Fatal error in CALL_AND_RETRY_0 allocation failed - process out of memory" already a known problem? | 11:08 |
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| Acce | what about the screen randomly turning off and back on? | 11:13 |
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| Yaniel | if it is related to lipstick crashing, yes | 11:13 |
| Yaniel | (red/green fast blinking) | 11:13 |
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| Acce | yeah, lipstick crashed, and after it got back up, the screen goes black randomly when used | 11:14 |
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| Yaniel | interesting | 11:17 |
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| Acce | yeah, nothing in the logs though.. probably some aftermath of the memory being too full | 11:21 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu update v0.2-7. More cover actions, more options, more translation strings! | 11:57 |
| PeperJohnny | Nice, thank you coderus | 11:58 |
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| hene- | coderus, nice, thanks! | 11:59 |
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| Azog | thp: gpodder does not resume at the last position, is that a known problem? | 12:30 |
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| joldar | anyone here know how to add hebrew/arabic support to sailfish? | 12:39 |
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| tbr | joldar: what in particular? | 12:41 |
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| kimmoli | TJC vote-up request... this makes me so angry sometimes; https://together.jolla.com/question/33333/bug-call-out-of-recent-call-list-can-switch-to-wrong-number-reproducable/ | 12:46 |
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| AL13N | kimmoli: what specifically makes you angry? | 13:51 |
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| AL13N | it's annoying when i have a contact that has a landline and mobile and i have no idea which i'm calling from the last list... cause i see 2 items for that contact, identically named. and while calling it's also not visible | 13:53 |
| kimmoli | AL13N just that. I hade my friends door-code in contact, i was trying to call to that... | 14:04 |
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| junnuvi | kimmoli: how about disablig "fast dial" from settings? | 14:08 |
| kimmoli | then it opens contact-card, hihghlight first number of that contact, not the one where the call was from. that is what the TJC 33333 is all about | 14:10 |
| junnuvi | settings -> application -> phone .. (I'm not sure what it is if you phone language is english, but in finnish it's "soitto saman tien" :) | 14:10 |
| junnuvi | ah sorry I havent read that TJC.. | 14:10 |
| kimmoli | the "soitto saman tien", both active/disabled - has pros and cons | 14:11 |
| junnuvi | now I have and understand what is problem :) | 14:12 |
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| coderus | joldar: Schturman know. he is using arabic in Jolla | 15:09 |
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| Venemo | AL13N: yeah that annoys me too | 15:28 |
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| cvp | hi :) | 16:07 |
| Nicd- | hey cvp | 16:07 |
| Nicd- | I'm supposed to return an English assignment today, but school systems are down | 16:08 |
| Nicd- | so Sailfish coding it is then \o/ | 16:08 |
| Acce | :D | 16:08 |
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| cvp | Nicd-: and what do you coding ? :D | 16:09 |
| Nicd- | cvp: WeeCRApp | 16:09 |
| cvp | what a crapp app ? :D | 16:09 |
| cvp | no .... but what is it ? | 16:10 |
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| Nicd- | WeeChat Relay App | 16:11 |
| Nicd- | a native GUI for the WeeChat IRC client | 16:11 |
| cvp | ok i will check | 16:13 |
| Nicd- | it's not public yet | 16:13 |
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| Nicd- | WeeChat is though (not made by me) | 16:13 |
| cvp | ok its a irc client with a bit more features :) | 16:15 |
| cvp | file transfer possible ? : ) | 16:15 |
| Nicd- | well, the client is not running on the device | 16:16 |
| Nicd- | WeeChat runs on a server, the client just runs a GUI (WeeCRApp) which connects to the server | 16:17 |
| cvp | ah ok | 16:17 |
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| Nicd- | my aim is to make IRCing more convenient than with FingerTerm | 16:19 |
| Nicd- | time will tell how well I'll succeed | 16:19 |
| cvp | we will see, good luck :) | 16:19 |
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| coderus | use profanity.im | 16:25 |
| Nicd- | what does that have to do with my app though? | 16:26 |
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| pahartik | Nicd-: It sounds interesting | 16:27 |
| Nicd- | pahartik: hey, I saw you yesterday | 16:27 |
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| pahartik | Nicd-: That is most likely if you were at local "Jolla and Sailfish hack day" event | 16:31 |
| Nicd- | yep, I was the WeeChat client guy | 16:31 |
| pahartik | Nicd-: Very good | 16:34 |
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| pahartik | Nicd-: Do you know who I am due to badge I was wearing? | 16:37 |
| Nicd- | yep | 16:37 |
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| * pahartik upgaded "Sailfish Linux" to latest version 1.0.4.20 early today | 16:41 | |
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| coderus | Nicd-: its not about your app :) | 16:55 |
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| Nicd- | don't really see the value of profanity.im, I use bitlbee for xmpp so I can use my IRC client | 17:00 |
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| TemeV_ | I like using znc and irc for sailfish. Nicer to use than Fingerterm, but weechat and native ui for it would be more sophisticated solution :) | 17:16 |
| Nicd- | I hope I can make it convenient for people to use | 17:17 |
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| Kiranos | quasseldroid for android works great for irc on jolla | 17:26 |
| Nicd- | in theory my app could be extended to support quassel as well | 17:27 |
| Nicd- | at least I'm aiming for such modularity | 17:27 |
| Kiranos | that would be nice | 17:27 |
| Kiranos | would be good to be able to multitask it | 17:27 |
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| Kiranos | and see status still now you can just have one android app at a time | 17:28 |
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| Nicd- | I can confirm now that the yellow blinking led never stops even though the incoming email was read with another device and the notification is removed | 17:48 |
| Nicd- | happened twice today | 17:48 |
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| Bysmyyr | I got very brilliant idea: https://together.jolla.com/question/36969/release-locked-orientation/ | 17:58 |
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| clau | in case anyone wants to know, ordering a Jolla now is really fast. I made the order on Monday and by Thursday it was already in country, though the bastards from FedEx take more time to deliverit in country than internationally. I should get it tomorrow. | 18:35 |
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| stephg | Nicd- about the email thing, how do you mean 'when the notification is removed' | 18:36 |
| Acce | stephg: no notification in the events screen | 18:36 |
| stephg | i.e. if I check my mail on my computer, then wake the jolla, I still have 68 unread mails (on jolla, but deleted in IMAP) | 18:37 |
| stephg | after that, no more blinky | 18:37 |
| Acce | Don't know if the symptoms are exactly the same, but I occasionally get vibration alert + blinking, when I turn the screen on, no notifications | 18:38 |
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| clau | Acce, I got it too. | 18:39 |
| clau | since latest update. | 18:39 |
| Acce | I usually have had some unread mails after this, if I go and check the email app | 18:39 |
| clau | but, I didn't touch the emails by other means, if I recall. | 18:39 |
| Acce | yeah, probably something to do how they sync the emails | 18:40 |
| clau | it's just that I get sound + led, and I check it immediately and the events screen is completely empty. | 18:40 |
| clau | when I check the email app I can see the new unread email(s) | 18:40 |
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| stephg | you all imap or gmail or what | 18:46 |
| stephg | there could be all sorts of stuff underneath that cause differing behaviour | 18:46 |
| clau | gmail imap, yes | 18:47 |
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| clau | but, why would I get just sound+led? | 18:47 |
| clau | btw, it happened just a few times. generally it works correctly. | 18:47 |
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| stephg | dunno, tempted to say works for me, but then I disregard more or less everything the LED does unless it's blue | 18:49 |
| stephg | or red, but that's different ;) | 18:49 |
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| pahartik | tbr: You did give instructions of how to use "sailfishos:chum:1.0.4.20" at event yesterday? | 18:54 |
| tbr | pahartik: as a user? something like "ssu ar chum $repourl" | 18:55 |
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| tbr | pahartik: lbt said something about about chum:latest being workable too now | 18:56 |
| pahartik | tbr: I was wondering if I should submit packages I constructed, to it | 18:56 |
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| lbt | tbr: I think we should keep chum based on numeric versions | 18:56 |
| lbt | but people can use sailfishos:latest for ease of use | 18:57 |
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| lbt | hmm | 18:57 |
| lbt | I think we need a chum repo in ssu.ini which uses the version number | 18:58 |
| tbr | lbt: ah, so the build target is available as latest but chum should not? I'll trust you on that. I just need to understand it properly | 18:58 |
| lbt | yeah - I've not fully thought it through | 18:58 |
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| pahartik | tbr: I have stuff at "home:pahartik", not sure if they are good enough for some larger audience, but they work for me | 19:02 |
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| tbr | pahartik: well, if you have installed/uninstalled, tested the packages, you can SR them. There is a way through osc and through the web interface | 19:04 |
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| pahartik | tbr: Is it appropriate to use "Debian GNU/Linux" source packages as source? | 19:10 |
| tbr | pahartik: that will hardly work, you need RPMs... | 19:11 |
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| pahartik | tbr: No, I mean that sources that I use are from Debian archive mirror | 19:12 |
| pahartik | tbr: Then I just wrote "specfile" for each | 19:13 |
| tbr | pahartik: why not upstream? | 19:13 |
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| Quu | why not zoidberg | 19:13 |
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| Nicd- | stephg: when I read the email on my computer, Jolla will sync the read status and remove the notification about new email | 19:15 |
| pahartik | tbr: It is easy to get with "apt-get source", and I assume Debian to have sane version | 19:15 |
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| Nicd- | stephg: but the LED will keep blinking | 19:15 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.2-8. New media select row style and bugfixies | 19:19 |
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| pahartik | tbr: I am asking since I mostly know how to use "osc" but not sure about what is appropriate | 19:20 |
| Quu | coderus: fast updates today :) | 19:21 |
| clau | cool, thanks coderus | 19:22 |
| coderus | Quu: just bugfixies and silica hacking :) | 19:22 |
| clau | going to update shortly | 19:22 |
| Nicd- | updated | 19:22 |
| Nicd- | the new pushupmenu is cool | 19:23 |
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| tbr | pahartik: as long as the sources are identical to those of upstream there is no difference, but please note that RPM specs exist for many packages, most of the time along with sources or a mechanism to obtain them automatically from upstream. | 19:26 |
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| tbr | so writing it from scratch just for the sake of it does not make sense | 19:26 |
| clau | yep, the menu is very nice | 19:26 |
| pahartik | tbr: Acknowledged | 19:27 |
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| stephg | Nicd-, ok | 20:08 |
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| stephg | I shall try to reproduce in the morning, let's try and keep VDVsx's work to a minimum | 20:10 |
| cvp | coderus nice work :) | 20:12 |
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| stephg | ;) | 20:19 |
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| ggabriel | no bind-tools in mer-tools :( | 20:20 |
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| stephg | ggabriel, dig is on openrepos irrc | 20:48 |
| ggabriel | yeah, i'll pass on openrepos for the time being | 20:48 |
| ggabriel | i'll test some other way ;-) | 20:49 |
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| stephg | well I don't use warehouse myself but a handful of from there I do use | 20:50 |
| stephg | but bind-utils sholuld be safe | 20:50 |
| stephg | or worse case build it yourself | 20:51 |
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| ggabriel | i think i'm gonna have to start bootstrapping the sdk to build stuff like this | 20:51 |
| stephg | someone may have one build on obs | 20:52 |
| stephg | (if you trust that more than openrepos) | 20:52 |
| ggabriel | true, so i need to learn all about it ;-) | 20:52 |
| ggabriel | i'll wait for a rainy day | 20:52 |
| ggabriel | weather is too good these days | 20:52 |
| stephg | hehe | 20:53 |
| stephg | yes | 20:53 |
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| stephg | ggabriel, when you do, write it up, blog about it | 20:56 |
| ggabriel | somebody needs to do that, right? :) | 20:59 |
| ggabriel | just don't hold your breath | 20:59 |
| ggabriel | i've got as many open projects as ff tabs | 20:59 |
| ggabriel | and i have a lot of ff tabs | 20:59 |
| ggabriel | anyway, later | 20:59 |
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| stephg | hehe | 21:02 |
| stephg | ok well is bed time here too | 21:02 |
| stephg | catch you and everyone in the morning | 21:02 |
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| clau | ggabriel, what are you afraid of more exactly? is it just about the possibility of messing the phone, or are you afraid of trojans/backdoors? | 21:09 |
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| szopin | Looks like I ran into btrfs balance issue when creating the chroot, system/about shows 7/13.7 used, but can't install anything more into the chroot. Anyone has experience with " btrfs blockgroup allocation problem."? | 21:14 |
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| szopin | interesting, in the 5 minutes from starting 'btrfs fi balance /home' 800mb somehow got added, system/about now whosing 7.8 used :/ | 21:30 |
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| szopin | after balancing 7.4 in about, with 9.07 GB used according to btrfs show weird | 21:45 |
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